IOTA

[iotatoken]

You conveniently left out the "Go fuck yourself" reply to my last msgs there

Oh the dishonest ones always got the same modus operandi. I don't got time to discuss this with you anymore, good luck with your Pied Piper.

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[Seccour]

You conveniently left out the "Go fuck yourself" reply to my last msgs there

Oh the dishonest ones always got the same modus operandi. I don't got time to discuss this with you anymore, good luck with your Pied Piper.

Please tell me more about how i left it out :





I even admit saying it.

Again an ad-hominem and lying about how i "left out to put the "Go Fuck Yourself"".

That's mature from your side. I'm ready to apologized if you do it to, because everything come from a misunderstanding, but you prefer to keep the ad-hominem and you even lie.

And you call me a kid, and someone dishonest ? Everyone can see who is the real dishonest person here just from this comment.

[iotatoken]

I don't even read your posts, I just clicked the links to see if you had been honest in your screenshotting, which you had not. You are of no significance to me, I gave you plenty of opportunity to stop being a piss ant, you decided not to take them, and now you are experiencing the consequences of that.

/AFK BTT

[Seccour]

I don't even read your posts, I just clicked the links to see if you had been honest in your screenshotting, which you had not. You are of no significance to me, I gave you plenty of opportunity to stop being a piss ant, you decided not to take them, and now you are experiencing the consequences of that.

/AFK BTT

It was on the screen, the last one. As i point out in the previous post. Why do you keep lying ? The proof is here.

It was months that i didn't speak in Slack because i didn't have time for IOTA. I didn't speak to you since months too.

If i have no significance why do you even bother replying to a comment that didn't concern you, IOTA, or the Foundation ? The only thing i experience right now is you being blind to the truth and being lock in your ego. You can't even admit that this start from a misunderstanding of my comment and your reply to it.

If that's how you treat people that help your community by providing useful services, that's sad.


To everyone : Avoid saying anything that could be misunderstand or you will be ban or treated like a troll.

[John_Paul]

People just can't stop making argument and showing off here. What a waste of time. I said so because I absolutely had no time and interest to read any of this kind walls of text except if they were posted by the devs. I really hope devs don't need to spend time to read and answer this kind walls of text because they could spend the time in more productive way.

[Seccour]

People just can't stop making argument and showing off here. What a waste of time. I said so because I absolutely had no time and interest to read any of this kind walls of text except they were posted by the devs. I really hope devs don't need to spend time to read and answer this kind walls of text because they could spend the time in more productive way.

They don't read it don't worry. They start drama by replying to post that didn't concern them and ban the person who post it because they didn't understand the comment.

( BTW David for your information : this is drama. )

[rtrtcrypto]

Sorry that this is happening Seccour,

Much of the community really appreciates the help you've been; though I have not used your services at all, I still appreciate the time you've put in here and on slack. No point in even saying anything else I suppose.

People just can't stop making argument and showing off here. What a waste of time. I said so because I absolutely had no time and interest to read any of this kind walls of text except they were posted by the devs. I really hope devs don't need to spend time to read and answer this kind walls of text because they could spend the time in more productive way.

They don't read it don't worry. They start drama by replying to post that didn't concern them and ban the person who post it because they didn't understand the comment.

( BTW David for your information : this is drama. )

[Jabbawa]

Sorry that this is happening Seccour,

Much of the community really appreciates the help you've been; though I have not used your services at all, I still appreciate the time you've put in here and on slack. No point in even saying anything else I suppose.

ditto

[kamiyama]

http://www.iotatoken.com/
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Getting Started with Nostalgia
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A simplistic User Interface (Nostalgia), is provided to help community members get started with using IOTA. The actual GUI wallet will be released in a few days, so if you don't feel comfortable with Nostalgia, I suggest you to wait until the wallet is ready.

The actual GUI wallet will be released in a few days
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Please delete if there is no plan.

[martismartis]

David, friendly reminder:

I'm still waiting for an invoice, you promised, for bought IOTA software. Thank you.

[nrg1zer]

uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going

[Lyricz]

uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going

+1

Unbelievable that this people will handle a million dollar company,....perhabs brilliant devs with communications @ machine-to-machine, but it looks that they have little problems with communications human-to-human.

[iotatoken]

uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going

+1

Unbelievable that this people will handle a million dollar company,....perhabs brilliant devs with communications @ machine-to-machine, but it looks that they have little problems with communications human-to-human.

Not at all. He was given a warning, after several months of the same shit, he decided to not take the warning and couldn't handle the consequences like an adult. Sorry, but IOTA project is about the real world, not forum ideology, we have repeatedly stated we will simply and bluntly ban anyone we see fit from the IOTA Slack after warnings. You are entirely free to make your own IOTAnarchist Slack

[Seccour]

uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going

+1

Unbelievable that this people will handle a million dollar company,....perhabs brilliant devs with communications @ machine-to-machine, but it looks that they have little problems with communications human-to-human.

Not at all. He was given a warning, after several months of the same shit, he decided to not take the warning and couldn't handle the consequences like an adult. Sorry, but IOTA project is about the real world, not forum ideology, we have repeatedly stated we will simply and bluntly ban anyone we see fit from the IOTA Slack after warnings. You are entirely free to make your own IOTAnarchist Slack

On Slack right ? Why did you bring my bitcointalk post on Slack then ? What a non-sense. And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ? Please stop lying and get your fact right. All the screenshot prove that just because you misunderstand my message that wasn't address to you, IOTA or the Foundation you start a drama.

You just a butt-hurt guy that can't handle criticism, advise or even simple sentence without insulting the person of being a troll or going by ad-hominem attack, or ban the person then give your own false version after it. Even when it's not related to you, you still find a way to link it to you so you can spill your bullshit and insult the person of being a troll.

And you're not even able to be mature and accept that you misunderstand the sentence and make peace.

In the real world you don't ban people because you don't agree with them. And at least in the real world you would have not enter the conversation that wasn't related to or about you.

[tangleNinja]

uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going

+1

Unbelievable that this people will handle a million dollar company,....perhabs brilliant devs with communications @ machine-to-machine, but it looks that they have little problems with communications human-to-human.

Not at all. He was given a warning, after several months of the same shit, he decided to not take the warning and couldn't handle the consequences like an adult. Sorry, but IOTA project is about the real world, not forum ideology, we have repeatedly stated we will simply and bluntly ban anyone we see fit from the IOTA Slack after warnings. You are entirely free to make your own IOTAnarchist Slack

On Slack right ? Why did you bring my bitcointalk post on Slack then ? What a non-sense. And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ? Please stop lying and get your fact right. All the screenshot prove that just because you misunderstand my message that wasn't address to you, IOTA or the Foundation you start a drama.

You just a butt-hurt guy that can't handle criticism, advise or even simple sentence without insulting the person of being a troll or going by ad-hominem attack, or ban the person then give your own false version after it. Even when it's not related to you, you still find a way to link it to you so you can spill your bullshit and insult the person of being a troll.

And you're not even able to be mature and accept that you misunderstand the sentence and make peace.

In the real world you don't ban people because you don't agree with them. And at least in the real world you would have not enter the conversation that wasn't related to or about you.

just walk away from this conversation and carry on with your life, both of you.

[bahamapascal]

And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ?

Generally I keep out of these kind of discussions, but in this case I will post my point of view on this issue. First of I want to note that I do appreciate the escrow service you provided to the community.
Also I have nothing personally against you and I am sure you did not mean to come across as a troll, but at times your attitude did not come over as very positive.

Regarding the above quote, you where not very active on slack, that would have been true. But You did post from time to time, and it often was borderline trolling.
Last time was on the 28th, which is still in history: http://imgur.com/a/6hjfL
If you take look at what you wrote, you might notice that it was not a very positive conversation.

I will quote and comment on your slack posts:

the guy i hold iota for is tired of waiting
and i'm tired of having iotas

No working wallet

First of, you made a wrong statement. Iota has a working wallet (Nostalgia). Its not super user friendly, but there are many tutorials and its very well funktional.
Secondly, stating that you are tiered of Iota dose not come across very positive.

last i ask for help i didn't received it

Not sure where or when you asked, but in general every one gets helped if they ask in slack.
I also PMed you after I saw this comment and offered you to help. But you never answered my PM, btw.

In reply to that,dom sad if you need help you can ask now. And your reply was:

No i'm doing a fresh install on VM. I will not waste (more of)  my time to try to resolve my previous problem

This is really not a friendly way of declining an offer to help. To me that came across very rude.



Fore me that is borderline trolling. But just borderline as I presume it was not your intention to come across as you did. And that was not the only inzident that you where a bit offending.
So that David PMed you, confronting you with that, is IMO not wrong at all. And if you would have just clearly and friendly sad that it was not your intend to troll, but that is was meant to be neutral statement,
I am sure this would not have endet in drama.




@Those that don't understand why this drama always happens:
In the case of the seccour banning, you might want to read above to see the story how I see it. Different perspectives of a situation are always good for the bigger picture IMO.

So why always all this drama? Iota slack is a place where rude comments are not accepted at all. Or comments that are just negative and in no way productive. Imagine being in a room With Google CEO and people alike. Trolling, or offensive attitude will not be seen there, and if it is, be sure that that person won't enjoy the luxury of hanging out with the CEO much longer.
Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team.
As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression.

Again, if you are friendly/Constructive you will never get any problems with the Iota team!

[lordoliver]

Would you all mind stop discussing about those trivialities? Is this really about iota or your egos?
- ok, the guy was complaining a lot - so what? Take it seriously, because there are reasons.
- ok, the consequence was to get banned - so what? He has the upper lever, deal with it.

Pull on the same string guys. The challenges are waiting out there ...
Then iota can have a bright future.

[Seccour]

And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ?

Generally I keep out of these kind of discussions, but in this case I will post my point of view on this issue. First of I want to note that I do appreciate the escrow service you provided to the community.
Also I have nothing personally against you and I am sure you did not mean to come across as a troll, but at times your attitude did not come over as very positive.

Regarding the above quote, you where not very active on slack, that would have been true. But You did post from time to time, and it often was borderline trolling.
Last time was on the 28th, which is still in history: http://imgur.com/a/6hjfL
If you take look at what you wrote, you might notice that it was not a very positive conversation.

I will quote and comment on your slack posts:

the guy i hold iota for is tired of waiting
and i'm tired of having iotas

No working wallet

First of, you made a wrong statement. Iota has a working wallet (Nostalgia). Its not super user friendly, but there are many tutorials and its very well funktional.
Secondly, stating that you are tiered of Iota dose not come across very positive.

last i ask for help i didn't received it

Not sure where or when you asked, but in general every one gets helped if they ask in slack.
I also PMed you after I saw this comment and offered you to help. But you never answered my PM, btw.

In reply to that,dom sad if you need help you can ask now. And your reply was:

No i'm doing a fresh install on VM. I will not waste (more of)  my time to try to resolve my previous problem

This is really not a friendly way of declining an offer to help. To me that came across very rude.



Fore me that is borderline trolling. But just borderline as I presume it was not your intention to come across as you did. And that was not the only inzident that you where a bit offending.
So that David PMed you, confronting you with that, is IMO not wrong at all. And if you would have just clearly and friendly sad that it was not your intend to troll, but that is was meant to be neutral statement,
I am sure this would not have endet in drama.




@Those that don't understand why this drama always happens:
In the case of the seccour banning, you might want to read above to see the story how I see it. Different perspectives of a situation are always good for the bigger picture IMO.

So why always all this drama? Iota slack is a place where rude comments are not accepted at all. Or comments that are just negative and in no way productive. Imagine being in a room With Google CEO and people alike. Trolling, or offensive attitude will not be seen there, and if it is, be sure that that person won't enjoy the luxury of hanging out with the CEO much longer.
Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team.
As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression.

Again, if you are friendly/Constructive you will never get any problems with the Iota team!

I didn't even bother taking dom help the 28 because the last time i was in need of his help he didn't even care helping me, same for Cfb and i did ask multiple times.

I didn't answer to your PM because at the time you send it i was doing something else and didn't have time to solve my problem that i have for months now.

If you think it's trolling you should look at the definition. I was just tired of that shit because every time i try to install that wallet or to make it work it doesn't. And when weeks or months ago i was asking multiple times for help about the error i was getting they didn't even bother helping me. So why would i even speak in a positive way ? Since when i do, no one help ?

It wasn't a wrong statement since i was speaking about myself.

And i didn't care about being rude because they were when i was asking for it.

And David PMing about it is wrong because it wasn't even concerning him ? Do i have to refer or explain all my statement to David ? Yeah i didn't welcome his PM in a friendly way because the first thing he did before sending me the PM was accusing me of being a troll here on bitcointalk. Without even asking for an explanation of my comment in PM before. And no it would have not end the drama because as his post on bitcointalk prove it, he didn't even try to ask for explanation, he was sure that i was a troll. Just look his first PM : "So did you finally decide to out yourself as a troll ?" - The finally say it all. That was his opinion about me.

" Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team. " - I know some people that were friendly and constructive and got into troubles.

" As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression. " - Good for you. You did that in public or PM ? Because one word wrong in public and you will be flag as a troll.

Anyway, before i wasn't getting help from the team, now i will not even be able to ask. Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack.

For your exemple with Google CEO... He will not even loose his time registering to Slack. The community the IOTA team ask money too during the ICO is not about CEO's and shit. It's just normal people from all backgrounds, all countries and that speak all kind of languages. If you want to hangout with CEO's and big corporate go ask for money to a VC next time. Don't betrayed those gave you the money and help your community.

[achimsmile]

Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack.

If you'd like to give the iotas back, I'll share my IP with you here and so will some others.

Else if you want nothing to do with it anymore you could give the seeds to a trusted member and tell him where to send how many iotas.

[Seccour]

Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack.

If you'd like to give the iotas back, I'll share my IP with you here and so will some others.

Else if you want nothing to do with it anymore you could give the seeds to a trusted member and tell him where to send how many iotas.

It's my backup plan if can't make it work. But i would have to wait for an exchange because there is my personal iota there too. And the trusted member will be yassin since he is the only one i trust here.