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September 23, 2016, 04:12:50 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?
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September 23, 2016, 06:14:54 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

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September 23, 2016, 07:20:53 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive

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September 23, 2016, 07:54:29 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.
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September 23, 2016, 01:23:05 PM
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Sweet concept, where can I buy one of these Air Benders?  Do you know of any reputable vendors in this free market?

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September 23, 2016, 01:37:47 PM
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I just installed 1.06 over 1.03
I logged in with my seed which used to have 1Gi

Now I cannot see anything in my balance anymore. And the wallet does not give any indication of synchronizing. Transactions to request is zero (has been from the start) and cpu at 0%

Have I lost my balance by installing over? I thought the seed was all that was needed to keep balance

Why is it not synchronizing?

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September 23, 2016, 01:44:41 PM
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Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"
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September 23, 2016, 01:46:56 PM
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I just installed 1.06 over 1.03
I logged in with my seed which used to have 1Gi

Now I cannot see anything in my balance anymore. And the wallet does not give any indication of synchronizing. Transactions to request is zero (has been from the start) and cpu at 0%

Have I lost my balance by installing over? I thought the seed was all that was needed to keep balance

Why is it not synchronizing?

Version 1.06 delete the database (IRI folder). You can download an actual DB here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6g7j3hs92zjbife/IRI.zip?dl=0

Automatic peerdiscovery is disabled in the new version (created problems).
You need to find new nodes. Ask in slack.
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September 23, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
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I have old version did i must find to peers?
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September 23, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
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I have old version did i must find to peers?

The upgrade to 1.0.6 is mandatory.

Please read: http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952
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September 23, 2016, 03:52:41 PM
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I have old version did i must find to peers?

Yes, you have to find peers now until a "lite" version is available.
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Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"

So currently IOTA is for two kinds of species:

1. Machines
2. Extremely communicative people, who are ready to contact 7 random unknown people (strangers) in some place called "slack", and start friendship with them - ask them to give you their IP address, then ask them to add your IP as a peer.

I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

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September 24, 2016, 12:57:47 AM
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Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"

So currently IOTA is for two kinds of species:

1. Machines
2. Extremely communicative people, who are ready to contact 7 random unknown people (strangers) in some place called "slack", and start friendship with them - ask them to give you their IP address, then ask them to add your IP as a peer.

I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

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don't really have to be extremely communicative, just enough to make a sentence like (please let's exchange nodes...).... I guess one does not even need to be a Hero Member in order to have those basic skills Roll Eyes
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September 24, 2016, 01:26:24 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.

When I tried generating some addresses on an air gapped PC I was only able to generate one address per seed. When I went to 'receive' an address appeared, but when I click 'attach to tangle'  the wallet just shows 'no milestone yet' for obvious reasons, and I can't see how to go onto generate a second address while the first is trying to attach to the tangle, so the user can't generate multiple addresses from a single seed on an air gapped PC. Is there a way to generate addresses using an api call maybe? I need more than one address for my balance, but would prefer using one seed.
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September 24, 2016, 02:08:25 AM
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I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

IOTA's motto should be more like "IOTA - Connecting Machines!" instead. The current testing is trying to simulate the IoT sensors/devices environment.   
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September 24, 2016, 04:33:44 AM
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Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.

When I tried generating some addresses on an air gapped PC I was only able to generate one address per seed. When I went to 'receive' an address appeared, but when I click 'attach to tangle'  the wallet just shows 'no milestone yet' for obvious reasons, and I can't see how to go onto generate a second address while the first is trying to attach to the tangle, so the user can't generate multiple addresses from a single seed on an air gapped PC. Is there a way to generate addresses using an api call maybe? I need more than one address for my balance, but would prefer using one seed.
This is a good question.

I imagine this functionality can be added to the GUI at a later date, but I would be interested to know for sure.
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September 24, 2016, 08:51:01 AM
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Since Iota is for machines, how can we ensure that a headless Iota client is in sync.
What should be logged or not logged when it's properly synced?

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September 24, 2016, 01:59:40 PM
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Since Iota is for machines, how can we ensure that a headless Iota client is in sync.
What should be logged or not logged when it's properly synced?

You check if you are synced by issuing a transaction and observing the percentage of new transactions approving yours.
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September 24, 2016, 02:53:33 PM
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I may not understood the concept of IOTA, but the need of issuing a transaction to check proper sync sounds strange Sad
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I may not understood the concept of IOTA, but the need of issuing a transaction to check proper sync sounds strange Sad


You are right in your first half of the statement.
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