2024 NBA Season

[Oasisman]

What matters is what a player will produce in the end and Leonard were able to produce more compared to its teammates.
Leonard is almost a complete player in terms of MVP award, he only now lacks winning a regular season MVP which is unlikely to happen IMO due to his style.

Leonard's defense is underrated, maybe because players of today's generation focused less on the defensive end as long as they are consistent at scoring.
I agree that Leonard may not win a season MVP, specially now that after he leaves Toronto, It seems nothing was change but they became better in standing so far without him. Nevertheless, any team with Leonard as an addition will become even better both defensively and offensively.

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[harizen]

I've just learned that it's Chris Paul who proposed that kind of format to NBA All-Star to make it more competitive and no doubt, it's effective. Not the whole format in general but the thing called "Elan Ending". Though it did not follow the original score that should be added to the leading scorer after 3 quarters, as we know the +24 is a tribute to Kobe Bryant.

...hopefully next all star it would be the team Giannis who would win and he well finally get an MVP award though.

Actually Giannis put a pride building his roster even last year. He can form a much better roster during the draft. It looks like he wanted to picks those underrated players for them to be recognized as a winning team against the most superstars. It surely a big achievement if that happens. But overall, both lineups are undoubtedly strong.

Next All-Star Game, if the Captain mode will still implement, I think he will get a shot again on being a Captain but Steph Curry will surely be included now on the voting list next year. As we know, Steph and LeBron always make it to the top in gathering All-Star votes. The reason they become the first captains in the changed format after East vs West series. I do hope LeBron got the 3rd place next year for a change lol although likely it won't happen for the next 1-2 seasons I believed.

[Reid]

I've just learned that it's Chris Paul who proposed that kind of format to NBA All-Star to make it more competitive and no doubt, it's effective. Not the whole format in general but the thing called "Elan Ending". Though it did not follow the original score that should be added to the leading scorer after 3 quarters, as we know the +24 is a tribute to Kobe Bryant.

I just congratulate the one who set it up yesterday. I didn't know it was Chris Paul who had the idea. Wow! He is really one of the wisest in NBA.
We could see it with his plays. Always mentally active. Not much room for errors.
It was really a successful one.

...hopefully next all star it would be the team Giannis who would win and he well finally get an MVP award though.

Actually Giannis put a pride building his roster even last year. He can form a much better roster during the draft. It looks like he wanted to picks those underrated players for them to be recognized as a winning team against the most superstars. It surely a big achievement if that happens. But overall, both lineups are undoubtedly strong.

Next All-Star Game, if the Captain mode will still implement, I think he will get a shot again on being a Captain but Steph Curry will surely be included now on the voting list next year. As we know, Steph and LeBron always make it to the top in gathering All-Star votes. The reason they become the first captains in the changed format after East vs West series. I do hope LeBron got the 3rd place next year for a change lol although likely it won't happen for the next 1-2 seasons I believed.

Yeah, Team Giannis and Team Steph.   No hates. Just a change.
Giannis is already gaining a lot of respect from other stars and so does Lebron.
Better try someone else just to see how they could also lead.

I cannot forget the post ups from Embiid with Harden defending him. They are getting serious down there, pushing and stuff.
When is the last time we saw someone posting up in an All Star game.  

[mich]

Lol, google might have put their bet on Team Giannis .,., that's clearly a mistake, as for me, I don't need to google it as I saw the entire game.

This made me spit bulgogi all-over my table - thank you for that
This was one of the best ALL STAR games for NBA I have seen and no-one thought Kawhi Leonard would win and with those attractive odds

[Distinctin]

Lol, google might have put their bet on Team Giannis .,., that's clearly a mistake, as for me, I don't need to google it as I saw the entire game.

This made me spit bulgogi all-over my table - thank you for that
This was one of the best ALL STAR games for NBA I have seen and no-one thought Kawhi Leonard would win and with those attractive odds

I think so because some bettors here loves to show their betslips but I have not seem anyone showed that they won betting on Kawhi, not even seen people who are claiming they won. The 4th quarter was something that fans will never forget, it was one of the best all star and I am sure Kobe would be so happy for that since this also was also dedicated for him.

[mirakal]

To summarize this wonderful all star game, here's the 10 standout moments from NBA All-Star 2020.

1-What a finish!
2-Windy City shows out on All-Star Game
3-Kobe’s legacy endures
4-A Slam Dunk contest to remember
5-Meeting Mr. Obama
6-Potential HOF class for ages
7-Another award for Kawhi
8-Giannis’ big denial of LeBron
9-Magic directs an important show
10-First-time All-Stars impress


source : https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/17/10-takeaways-nba-all-star-2020

[danherbias07]

To summarize this wonderful all star game, here's the 10 standout moments from NBA All-Star 2020.

1-What a finish!
2-Windy City shows out on All-Star Game
3-Kobe’s legacy endures
4-A Slam Dunk contest to remember
5-Meeting Mr. Obama
6-Potential HOF class for ages
7-Another award for Kawhi
8-Giannis’ big denial of LeBron
9-Magic directs an important show
10-First-time All-Stars impress


source : https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/17/10-takeaways-nba-all-star-2020

So many young and good players in that game.
Difficult to predict that it will be Kawhi who will win the All-Star MVP.
Most of us may have thought it will be Doncic but he had a bad night.
Kawhi though is really hot on the outside. He almost broke the record of three points made in an All-Star but the last shots missed.
He may have a clue that he is near breaking a record.

Oh! That Slam Dunk will never be forgotten. Is it 3 tie breakers or 4? That was a lot of dunks made. 

[boyptc]

Then you should start making your own strategy but you are not oblige to share it here.
When I was new in sports betting, I love to experiment on different strategy but eventually I found the right for me, and my experience really helps a lot.

I don't think that's necessary, I'm not confident sharing that kind of bets with others.

I might test it on my own and I'll assess what's going to be the result of that run and if I think that it's a shareable thing to the people here, I might do it without notice but for now, I don't think it's needed.

[Japinat]

Then you should start making your own strategy but you are not oblige to share it here.
When I was new in sports betting, I love to experiment on different strategy but eventually I found the right for me, and my experience really helps a lot.

I don't think that's necessary, I'm not confident sharing that kind of bets with others.

I might test it on my own and I'll assess what's going to be the result of that run and if I think that it's a shareable thing to the people here, I might do it without notice but for now, I don't think it's needed.

Good luck mate, hopefully in the future you'll be one of the admired tipster in the forum.

I am betting in sports as well, done this for years but like you I am also not yet confident sharing my picks, all I can give is just my opinion or thoughts on a game but I can't give assurance that my opinion is correct.

[FlightyPouch]

I think so because some bettors here loves to show their betslips but I have not seem anyone showed that they won betting on Kawhi, not even seen people who are claiming they won. The 4th quarter was something that fans will never forget, it was one of the best all star and I am sure Kobe would be so happy for that since this also was also dedicated for him.

Some fans after this has a lot to say. The first one is that they are thinking that they've seen Kobe on the court and that is just Middleton who really looked like Kobe. Another thing is that a lot of people are so surprised by Chris Paul's dunk while he's been doing that in the past, lastly, the beef of Giannis and Harden, are they really in beef?

[Sanitough]

The first one is that they are thinking that they've seen Kobe on the court and that is just Middleton who really looked like Kobe. \

I just realize that now, yes, Middleton looks like Kobe,... people surely missing him but eventually people can still move on.

This : https://www.change.org/p/nba-petition-to-make-kobe-bryant-the-new-nba-logo

Petition to make Kobe Bryant the new NBA Logo

That would be a great tribute to Kobe that fans will never forget, KOBE as the new logo of the NBA would really nice.

[FlightyPouch]

That would be a great tribute to Kobe that fans will never forget, KOBE as the new logo of the NBA would really nice.

Is it really necessary? Kobe really did shape the league, people are looking up to him, kids usually shouts "Kobe" as they hit a three with a trash can and a piece of paper but the NBA did a lot of tribute for him and I think that is enough. Kobe is one of the GOAT, to be honest, but he doesn't need to be the logo of the NBA and I think if we will be asking him that too that will be his answer. Kobe is a legend, and as music states it, "Legends never die"

[Sanitough]

That would be a great tribute to Kobe that fans will never forget, KOBE as the new logo of the NBA would really nice.

Is it really necessary? Kobe really did shape the league, people are looking up to him, kids usually shouts "Kobe" as they hit a three with a trash can and a piece of paper but the NBA did a lot of tribute for him and I think that is enough. Kobe is one of the GOAT, to be honest, but he doesn't need to be the logo of the NBA and I think if we will be asking him that too that will be his answer. Kobe is a legend, and as music states it, "Legends never die"

I am not saying it's necessary but if the organization find it reasonable to change the logo for Kobe then they will do.
Of course it will all start with the fans pushing for a change and they'll like to dedicate that to Kobe and if that would come in reality, they'll be happy including me as I am also a Kobe fan.

Kobe is a legend, he is way better than any other active players in the NBA now, even against Lebron, I still find Kobe better and I think he is the only one who is comparably close to Jordan when it comes to talent in basketball.

[Captain Corporate]

 I think logo is something much more than Jerry West, even he himself says it is not him and NBA claims it is not him (although we all know it is definitely him) if you attach logo to just one player that would be really not justice to everyone who plays or played. What happens if Lebron dies tomorrow? Will you change logo from kobe to lebron? What happens if MJ dies? Will you change it to MJ air logo? Long story short, even tho it is right now based on a "player" we all know, the logo official doesn't say who it is, doesn't pay royalty or anything and basically it is just a guy dribbling and thats it, putting a name on it would be very very tough and would hurt a lot of other people. Naming Kobe after the all-star MVP is big enough, I suggest keeping that every year and keep it that way instead of doing anything else.

[darewaller]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMuh1hZ0764 , this has the last 5 minutes of the All-star game, can anyone tell me if they remember any last 5 minutes of the all-star game that was as real as it gets? This was literally as "playoff game" as it gets because everyone on the floor was trying to win, there was a ton of trash talk as well which I loved seeing as well.

In the end we really deserved an all-star game that had everyone play to win and not just have fun, look at the video and you will see that nobody played with just fun and all but they played to win, there was actually defense. However if you look before these moments, like the second quarter or first quarter etc, you will see that there was a ton of lack of defense as well. If this method continues I am pretty sure we will see whole game being more defensive and more realistic in the future instead of the previous years we have seen.

[jakelyson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMuh1hZ0764 , this has the last 5 minutes of the All-star game, can anyone tell me if they remember any last 5 minutes of the all-star game that was as real as it gets? This was literally as "playoff game" as it gets because everyone on the floor was trying to win, there was a ton of trash talk as well which I loved seeing as well.

The real game started in the third quarter when team Lebron is trying to win that quarter. It ended in a tie and the battle continues on the fourth. I think this is the first time in a long time that plays are executed in an all-star game. The format is a success bringing out this level of competitiveness in an all-star game.

 I think logo is something much more than Jerry West, even he himself says it is not him and NBA claims it is not him (although we all know it is definitely him) if you attach logo to just one player that would be really not justice to everyone who plays or played. What happens if Lebron dies tomorrow? Will you change logo from kobe to lebron? What happens if MJ dies? Will you change it to MJ air logo? Long story short, even tho it is right now based on a "player" we all know, the logo official doesn't say who it is, doesn't pay royalty or anything and basically it is just a guy dribbling and thats it, putting a name on it would be very very tough and would hurt a lot of other people. Naming Kobe after the all-star MVP is big enough, I suggest keeping that every year and keep it that way instead of doing anything else.

True. Everyone is just emotional with the sudden loss that is why they want to change the logo to Kobe. There lots of ways to honor Kobe but I think changing NBA logo is not one of them.

[harizen]

I am not saying it's necessary but if the organization find it reasonable to change the logo for Kobe then they will do.
Of course it will all start with the fans pushing for a change and they'll like to dedicate that to Kobe and if that would come in reality, they'll be happy including me as I am also a Kobe fan.

Kobe is a legend, he is way better than any other active players in the NBA now, even against Lebron, I still find Kobe better and I think he is the only one who is comparably close to Jordan when it comes to talent in basketball.

The fact that you insert LeBron and any other players in the discussion as the reason for that to happen, this makes the whole Kobe-changed logo not making sense, unnecessary, baseless and pointless.

It's not just because of the performance nor achievements or even Kobe is the most talented player in the NBA that the logo should be changed after him.

Kobe's die-hard fans should understand that changing the logo is not as easy as 1,2,3 and shouldn't be push nor make it as a petition fan-based. Why this brought up in the first place? To honor Kobe? Good point above, how about Jordan? Magic? Chamberlain? The other greats that contribute to the legacy of the NBA?

Kobe will surely not be happy about this. As for him, there are other greats he respected that should be placed there first before him. Maybe someday he will be considered but not this time.

I think logo is something much more than Jerry West, even he himself says it is not him and NBA claims it is not him (although we all know it is definitely him) if you attach logo to just one player that would be really not justice to everyone who plays or played. What happens if Lebron dies tomorrow? Will you change logo from kobe to lebron? What happens if MJ dies? Will you change it to MJ air logo? Long story short, even tho it is right now based on a "player" we all know, the logo official doesn't say who it is, doesn't pay royalty or anything and basically it is just a guy dribbling and thats it, putting a name on it would be very very tough and would hurt a lot of other people. Naming Kobe after the all-star MVP is big enough, I suggest keeping that every year and keep it that way instead of doing anything else.

True. Everyone is just emotional with the sudden loss that is why they want to change the logo to Kobe. There lots of ways to honor Kobe but I think changing NBA logo is not one of them.

+1

[goinmerry]

I cannot forget the post ups from Embiid with Harden defending him. They are getting serious down there, pushing and stuff.
When is the last time we saw someone posting up in an All Star game.  

And Kyle Lowry, taking charges. Miss this action in All-Star game, physical and both teams are eyeing for a win.

Still can't move on how the recent All-Star game turned out. This is the effect of long-time no competitiveness on every All-Star game although when they changed the format to a draft pick, I see the competition slowly coming back.

Yeah, Team Giannis and Team Steph.   No hates. Just a change.
Giannis is already gaining a lot of respect from other stars and so does Lebron.
Better try someone else just to see how they could also lead.

Looking forward to a change too but we can't really deny the fact that these 3 players do have a large fan community that's why they always topped the votes. Team Steph will make a comeback I think next All-Star.

[Sanitough]

I am not saying it's necessary but if the organization find it reasonable to change the logo for Kobe then they will do.
Of course it will all start with the fans pushing for a change and they'll like to dedicate that to Kobe and if that would come in reality, they'll be happy including me as I am also a Kobe fan.

Kobe is a legend, he is way better than any other active players in the NBA now, even against Lebron, I still find Kobe better and I think he is the only one who is comparably close to Jordan when it comes to talent in basketball.

The fact that you insert LeBron and any other players in the discussion as the reason for that to happen, this makes the whole Kobe-changed logo not making sense, unnecessary, baseless and pointless.

It's not just because of the performance nor achievements or even Kobe is the most talented player in the NBA that the logo should be changed after him.

Kobe's die-hard fans should understand that changing the logo is not as easy as 1,2,3 and shouldn't be push nor make it as a petition fan-based. Why this brought up in the first place? To honor Kobe? Good point above, how about Jordan? Magic? Chamberlain? The other greats that contribute to the legacy of the NBA?

Kobe will surely not be happy about this. As for him, there are other greats he respected that should be placed there first before him. Maybe someday he will be considered but not this time.

It's gonna be hard to make everyone on what Kobe fans are petitioning since everyone has their own best player in the NBA.
I'm not pushing, just sharing what the fans likes to happen and it was has never came into my mind about the "kobe-logo" until I read articles on it.
yes there are greats, better than him, but he died in a tragic incident, maybe that's the reason why he was so different and people pity him.

anyway, too much for this discussion, it's just like believing in different God and discussions were made by different religion or believer, all we discuss here are only based on opinion and not one among us even know the criteria for a change logo in NBA if there's any.

[harizen]

The fact that you insert LeBron and any other players in the discussion as the reason for that to happen, this makes the whole Kobe-changed logo not making sense, unnecessary, baseless and pointless.

It's not just because of the performance nor achievements or even Kobe is the most talented player in the NBA that the logo should be changed after him.

Kobe's die-hard fans should understand that changing the logo is not as easy as 1,2,3 and shouldn't be push nor make it as a petition fan-based. Why this brought up in the first place? To honor Kobe? Good point above, how about Jordan? Magic? Chamberlain? The other greats that contribute to the legacy of the NBA?

Kobe will surely not be happy about this. As for him, there are other greats he respected that should be placed there first before him. Maybe someday he will be considered but not this time.

It's gonna be hard to make everyone on what Kobe fans are petitioning since everyone has their own best player in the NBA.
I'm not pushing, just sharing what the fans likes to happen and it was has never came into my mind about the "kobe-logo" until I read articles on it.
yes there are greats, better than him, but he died in a tragic incident, maybe that's the reason why he was so different and people pity him.

anyway, too much for this discussion, it's just like believing in different God and discussions were made by different religion or believer, all we discuss here are only based on opinion and not one among us even know the criteria for a change logo in NBA if there's any.

I will not snipped some of the posts for reference.

Anyways, I'm not saying you are pushing it. I never mentioned it. I just point out the basis you have mentioned which is:

"Kobe is a legend, he is way better than any other active players in the NBA now, even against Lebron, I still find Kobe better and I think he is the only one who is comparably close to Jordan when it comes to talent in basketball."

Even no one knows here the criteria of how the logo should be changed, that reason alone isn't making sense and shouldn't be a basis.

But as I also pointed out, "maybe someday Kobe will be considered". Kobe fans or not, no one will oppose that move.

anyway, too much for this discussion, it's just like believing in different God and discussions were made by different religion or believer, all we discuss here are only based on opinion and not one among us even know the criteria for a change logo in NBA if there's any.

Don't take this seriously mate as we are just having a healthy discussion here just like the others who also posted their own sentiments about the logo change. It's ok no worries.

It's not appropriate to compare our healthy discussions here to the toxic religious discussions for an obvious reason. Our topic here is way more constructive compare to them lol.