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I have watched some of the camp training videos, and they also said Ball is still not in full contact. They thought Ball was supposed to be healed in the Training camp but no. Just taking part in the exercises and not in the scrimmage. With the plays that they have, I think it wouldn't be a worry to the adjustments; probably they already did and discussed it. Shoot. That hurts. But if he is doing some exercises then maybe it is just a mild injury by now. They might just be doing some test if he could somehow move his body. Well, as long as he is there to see the game plays then I think they are still in good position. But he really needs to get healthy before the start of the season. This may be the possible starters of the Lakers team. Lonzo Ball-Kenatvious Caldwell-Pope-Brandon Ingram-LeBron James-JaVale McGee If I am right they may put Kuzma in the 2nd team with Rondo as point. It is like a football team out there. There is a team for offense and also for defense. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 20, 2018, 06:55:14 PM |
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Even if Jimmy Butler preferred three teams I don't think it will be neither one of them as they really don't have much to give and Butler only chose those as he can potentially have a max contract there, other teams such as Blazers, Celtics, Miami, 76ers, and Lakers also still are realistic targets as the organization is still the one who will choose where will Butler land and for what players/picks they will receive. Minnesota only has one shot at this and I hope they don't blow the future up with just one trade.
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September 20, 2018, 08:33:59 PM |
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Why do you think that he didn't mention Lakers? He ain't going to Lakers, i mean he still can be traded, but will not commit to sign a long term deal. Yesterday, i read some of these "league source tell'' reports that he was initially interested in Lakers but that was before LeBron joining the team. I guess not everyone is super-hyped to play with passive-aggressive drama queen. I agree, I'm sure that he doesn't want to play under the shadow of James. We know that he is a great player, but his more of a diva type, he always want to be the alpha or franchise player but he hasn't deliver anything to merit this supposed to be superstar status. The obvious choice would be Knicks, but they don't have much except for Kevin Knox and Hardaway Jr. Don't discard Jerry West though..
Obviously, Knicks will be a good option if he really wanted to the the face of the team. He can demand more as Knicks is hungry for for a player that can bring back some glory days and put fans to watch their every game.
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September 20, 2018, 11:58:41 PM |
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Even if Jimmy Butler preferred three teams I don't think it will be neither one of them as they really don't have much to give and Butler only chose those as he can potentially have a max contract there, other teams such as Blazers, Celtics, Miami, 76ers, and Lakers also still are realistic targets as the organization is still the one who will choose where will Butler land and for what players/picks they will receive. Minnesota only has one shot at this and I hope they don't blow the future up with just one trade.
Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays. Butler will become free agent next year so whatever deal he can take on his current proposed trade, there should be no problem to him as his goal was to a) signed a contract extension, not with Twolves b) max contract (that will offered by other teams). Don't know the "real" drama between Butler and the Wolves but whatever it is, looks like he is aiming for one thing.
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September 21, 2018, 11:29:01 AM |
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Or he can still stay to the league but not as a player but can be a coach or assistant coach or a trainer which mainly focus with shooting. Just like what happened to Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Steve Kerr and others.
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September 21, 2018, 04:54:54 PM |
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Have you guys watched the training video from lakers twitter ? That's probably the last thing you should watch/ judge a team by. It's like all these off-season individual workout videos all over the internet, where dudes don't miss a shot. For example, Hoodie Melo from last year. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FeTSXzz%2Fjimmy.jpg&t=665&c=9xmdw63O3_xHjg) source: https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1042473268530360321Preferred destinations he would consider signing long term - Knicks, Clippers and the Nets That possibly means no TimberBulls! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) For me, I expect this to happen. Maybe Butler doesn't want how Coach Tom is coaching his players or he doesn't want his old teammates ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . For long term, I think Clippers will the best team Butler will fit. I think hes veteran experience will help young players there. Butler and Williams will be a good duo I think but not as good as other duos. Knicks?? Hmmm maybe he and Porzingis combination. Nets??? Hmmmm he doesn't fit there. Why do you think that he didn't mention Lakers? Of the teams that we speculate for him to be traded, I would like to see him with Lakers if there is a possibility. There is always a change that we do not expect will happen and I like him to be in the team that is hungry to reach the playoffs and that is the lakers. Well everybody seems to want the lakers to be instant title contenders eh? Jimmy butler brings a lot but the lakers are probably out of his choices. Funny how the guy seems to just want to be away from his bulls teammates lol.
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September 21, 2018, 06:42:17 PM |
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Or he can still stay to the league but not as a player but can be a coach or assistant coach or a trainer which mainly focus with shooting. Just like what happened to Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Steve Kerr and others. Good idea. But I would prefer him to be a trainer instead. Assistant coach or coach which is that huge maybe the first time in NBA. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) at 7ft It is Kevin Mchale who have been the tallest at 6'10. It is just awkward looking up at a coach every time he will tell you something near you. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But I would love to see him more at the American Airlines Center instead of other teams. I do think Mark Cuban could let that happen since Dirk had been faithful with Dallas.
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September 22, 2018, 11:02:00 AM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem.
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September 22, 2018, 11:39:16 AM |
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It is always really difficult to trade a player who wants out. Other teams know that you are trying to trade that player and they do not offer a great players in return, remember when celtics wanted kyrie ?
They gave an injured defensive liability player with a player whose only upside is its defense on the system they were playing. Look at kawhi, derozan is an amazing player but spurs lost its best player who was a top three player at his prime with the best wing defender at green and only got one derozan with some sidekick with him. When a player wants out, its really close to impossible to get a fair trade deal.
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September 22, 2018, 11:52:25 AM |
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It is always really difficult to trade a player who wants out. Other teams know that you are trying to trade that player and they do not offer a great players in return, remember when celtics wanted kyrie ?
They gave an injured defensive liability player with a player whose only upside is its defense on the system they were playing. Look at kawhi, derozan is an amazing player but spurs lost its best player who was a top three player at his prime with the best wing defender at green and only got one derozan with some sidekick with him. When a player wants out, its really close to impossible to get a fair trade deal.
Your opinion is really correct, now that Butler wants out this might distract the chemistry his team is building. He knows he is still healthy and more teams will be interested on him, most of the time a healthy player who is playing well just want a good salary first before fulfilling his passion in basketball.
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September 22, 2018, 01:34:07 PM |
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It is always really difficult to trade a player who wants out. Other teams know that you are trying to trade that player and they do not offer a great players in return, remember when celtics wanted kyrie ?
They gave an injured defensive liability player with a player whose only upside is its defense on the system they were playing. Look at kawhi, derozan is an amazing player but spurs lost its best player who was a top three player at his prime with the best wing defender at green and only got one derozan with some sidekick with him. When a player wants out, its really close to impossible to get a fair trade deal.
Truth. It is like a forced trade. If I am the other team who wants Kawhi I would really give them a hard time too. Since it is Kawhi who wants out then they have not much of an option. Other teams would give them small time players too so maybe it is the best that was offered to them. And that sas DeRozan. For me Spurs have a good trade there. Not the best though. Problem is there is not much of a choice.
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September 22, 2018, 03:47:50 PM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem. Yeah right, management should take players not a liable but a part of the system, if someone who's not adjusting they should kick him out and trade it with someone who's willing to take the part and fill up the position, there's a lots of potential newcomers that they can train and develop good skills.
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September 22, 2018, 11:07:05 PM |
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Or he can still stay to the league but not as a player but can be a coach or assistant coach or a trainer which mainly focus with shooting. Just like what happened to Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Steve Kerr and others. Good idea. But I would prefer him to be a trainer instead. Assistant coach or coach which is that huge maybe the first time in NBA. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) at 7ft It is Kevin Mchale who have been the tallest at 6'10. It is just awkward looking up at a coach every time he will tell you something near you. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But I would love to see him more at the American Airlines Center instead of other teams. I do think Mark Cuban could let that happen since Dirk had been faithful with Dallas. It seems that most of the legends and veterans are still getting a great career after their playing career through those positions. But the decision would still be depending to him. If ever he has his decision after his retirement its still good to see him in action but outside the court.
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September 23, 2018, 04:15:40 AM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem. Yeah right, management should take players not a liable but a part of the system, if someone who's not adjusting they should kick him out and trade it with someone who's willing to take the part and fill up the position, there's a lots of potential newcomers that they can train and develop good skills. It think Butler's issues are from his coach. This guy is like going thru all of the teams in the NBA looking for the appropriate one that suits him. I guess it is a problem that he had been carrying from the start. It aint the team but him. He had good team mates and actually they are the right one for his kind of game. But as I told it was his own issues. Maybe he should make some real statement about why he does this.
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September 23, 2018, 05:20:44 AM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem. Yeah right, management should take players not a liable but a part of the system, if someone who's not adjusting they should kick him out and trade it with someone who's willing to take the part and fill up the position, there's a lots of potential newcomers that they can train and develop good skills. It think Butler's issues are from his coach. This guy is like going thru all of the teams in the NBA looking for the appropriate one that suits him. I guess it is a problem that he had been carrying from the start. It aint the team but him. He had good team mates and actually they are the right one for his kind of game. But as I told it was his own issues. Maybe he should make some real statement about why he does this. As a professional who are fishing for a good contract, I don't think he would openly share his issues on the coach or the team, or whatever the problem he is dealing right now. Attitude is also one of the most important factors in the NBA and they need to have a good attitude, look at Iverson, he is one of the best player in the NBA but I think he has an attitude problem that's why his career ended early.
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September 23, 2018, 01:52:11 PM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem. Yeah right, management should take players not a liable but a part of the system, if someone who's not adjusting they should kick him out and trade it with someone who's willing to take the part and fill up the position, there's a lots of potential newcomers that they can train and develop good skills. It think Butler's issues are from his coach. This guy is like going thru all of the teams in the NBA looking for the appropriate one that suits him. I guess it is a problem that he had been carrying from the start. It aint the team but him. He had good team mates and actually they are the right one for his kind of game. But as I told it was his own issues. Maybe he should make some real statement about why he does this. As a professional who are fishing for a good contract, I don't think he would openly share his issues on the coach or the team, or whatever the problem he is dealing right now. Attitude is also one of the most important factors in the NBA and they need to have a good attitude, look at Iverson, he is one of the best player in the NBA but I think he has an attitude problem that's why his career ended early. Could be. But Iverson didnt dhare that too. Well, I guess they have something on their contract that stops them from doing it. If breached then they will pay a large amount of money. I just remembered one video that I watched. Even small reactions of players have fines. Yeah like doing something with your hand even if it doesnt mean anything. They are getting stricter now when it comes to players attitude when they are on the basketball floor. One bad fight could lead to tens of thousands of dollars.
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September 24, 2018, 10:30:38 AM |
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Jimmy Butler is acting strange so definitely, Minnesota Timberwolves must get rid of this player right away. Even he is good, Twolves must understand that there is no reason for them to keep this guy as it might just result in unual plays.
If a player wants out, management should not hesitate to release him as this will not bear good output on the team's performance. In Butler's case, front office should make a good deal with other teams interested of his service, get young player with potential and let other teams contend Butler's attitude problem. Yeah right, management should take players not a liable but a part of the system, if someone who's not adjusting they should kick him out and trade it with someone who's willing to take the part and fill up the position, there's a lots of potential newcomers that they can train and develop good skills. It think Butler's issues are from his coach. This guy is like going thru all of the teams in the NBA looking for the appropriate one that suits him. I guess it is a problem that he had been carrying from the start. It aint the team but him. He had good team mates and actually they are the right one for his kind of game. But as I told it was his own issues. Maybe he should make some real statement about why he does this. As a professional who are fishing for a good contract, I don't think he would openly share his issues on the coach or the team, or whatever the problem he is dealing right now. Attitude is also one of the most important factors in the NBA and they need to have a good attitude, look at Iverson, he is one of the best player in the NBA but I think he has an attitude problem that's why his career ended early. Could be. But Iverson didnt dhare that too. Well, I guess they have something on their contract that stops them from doing it. If breached then they will pay a large amount of money. I just remembered one video that I watched. Even small reactions of players have fines. Yeah like doing something with your hand even if it doesnt mean anything. They are getting stricter now when it comes to players attitude when they are on the basketball floor. One bad fight could lead to tens of thousands of dollars. That is because NBA is not really a real sports, it's an entertainment and they are not physical now unlike before to avoid injuries especially the star players who continuously bring them money because of the NBA Fans. Also, gamblers think sports are rigged because NBA is where amazing happens, you know the rigged games to beat the public and make the sportsbook richer.
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September 24, 2018, 01:40:49 PM |
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Its just a change of Agent which is Rich Paul and that doesnt mean anything. Besides, Anthony Davis already made up his mind to win a championship at New Orleans. He is that kind of player who have his own goal and do not want to rely to anybody else which is a good thing to him. His contract expires in two years and he got a player option at 2020-2021 for player option. Lakers might have already build a better team before that too.
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September 24, 2018, 02:30:50 PM |
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Just to bring back some memories, https://www.nba.com/jazz/williams-sloan-put-past-where-it-belongsI'm sure most of you are aware of a bitter break up between Sloan and Jason Williams several years ago. Williams at that time was the main man in Utah while Sloan is the coach. But there were reports that the 2 didn't get along that causes Sloan to resigned as head coach after being at the helms for many years and Williams being trade off and we all know that its down hill for him after that. Its good though that they have patch things up as Sloan heath is deteriorating, fighting Parkinson's disease now.
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