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January 14, 2020, 10:32:36 AM
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Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office  Grin.

Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.
Yes, he's going to do everything not to disappoint the fans and the franchise owner so he will take this things in his very own hands.
His influenced is how things will work through this process, if he ask or demand for something it will surely be assess and discuss
with the big bosses of Lakers team.
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January 14, 2020, 11:26:41 AM
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I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

Anything could happen. There was a joke right after the game between OKC and Lakers that LA deliberately let Kuzma do the work to increase his trade value. Though it was funny, but It could also be true as the Lakers is looking for someone that could perfectly blend with AD and LeBron. I know Kuzma is a great back up offensive specialist coming from the 2nd squad, and I am really hoping they will not disassemble the team chemistry with this issue again.
Everyone in the Lakers team right now is enjoying each other's company and It is evident on every game they played.

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January 14, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
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I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

Anything could happen. There was a joke right after the game between OKC and Lakers that LA deliberately let Kuzma do the work to increase his trade value. Though it was funny, but It could also be true as the Lakers is looking for someone that could perfectly blend with AD and LeBron. I know Kuzma is a great back up offensive specialist coming from the 2nd squad, and I am really hoping they will not disassemble the team chemistry with this issue again.
Everyone in the Lakers team right now is enjoying each other's company and It is evident on every game they played.

But looks like LeBron is impatient to do things and want to secure the rings that's why they are looking for good addition for their squad, but seriously I don't want to see kuz trade to the other team since he is a valuable player that needed to keep if Lakers will boost him up for sure they will get the stronger kuz rather than getting an old guys who's starting up with their system.

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January 14, 2020, 12:36:59 PM
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Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office  Grin.

Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.

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January 14, 2020, 12:59:13 PM
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Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office  Grin.

Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.
Not for LeBron he needs to have every support that he needs to win the title. The management is there to follow him and in anyhow will give whatever he will demanded. Lakers have a lots of expectations from the fans and to fulfill that they've need to balance everything. In extents to provide players that will be fitted to their system.
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January 14, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
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But looks like LeBron is impatient to do things and want to secure the rings that's why they are looking for good addition for their squad, but seriously I don't want to see kuz trade to the other team since he is a valuable player that needed to keep if Lakers will boost him up for sure they will get the stronger kuz rather than getting an old guys who's starting up with their system.

Of course, that will be a bonus.
He is not satisfied yet.
Getting a championship for the Lakers will mean a lot.

But getting something that will blend with Lebron? Who?
He is the pointguard, he is the forward and also the center for some time.  Grin
Kuzma is already the perfect team mate for him. He just need to know it. There might be something else behind all of this.

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January 14, 2020, 01:17:22 PM
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I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.
Trading Kuzma is a bad move for Lakers management, if ever. I, myself also doesn't want that idea but if you will think, Kuzma can showcase more of his talents and improve if he's in another team instead of being with Lebron. He can possibly grow into his full potential if ever.


Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.
Yeah, the pride of management is always there but if it was Lebron's request, they will surely discuss about it and possibly give it a try. He won't be called influential for nothing. Also, it's nearly a decade for Lakers since they got a ring. Think of it, maybe they are just securing their chance to get it this season.
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January 14, 2020, 01:19:59 PM
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Not for LeBron he needs to have every support that he needs to win the title. The management is there to follow him and in anyhow will give whatever he will demanded.

He is that huge now?  Huh
Well if its for the championship then I think it will be considered.

Lakers have a lots of expectations from the fans and to fulfill that they've need to balance everything. In extents to provide players that will be fitted to their system.

Kuzma had been there before Lebron. I think they are missing that point here.
They already revamped their roster to something unexpected.
Veterans and the young. That is already perfect for me. Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones?  Grin

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January 14, 2020, 02:35:02 PM
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Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones?  Grin

Probably because he wants to play with someone who are consistent and can be trusted to shoot the ball especially in the crucial times as he can't do the last shot, so he'll pass it to a spot up shooter.  Grin

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January 14, 2020, 03:33:33 PM
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Lebron doesn't have that kind of influence at all anymore, I mean with Cavs he had that because he was the only player that could turn things around for Cavs, they really are the most horrible team in all of NBA most of the time (with Knicks) so Lebron made them matter, this dude took that team into 4 straight finals and as soon as he left team started to be the worst team around, he was that important. Lakers made profits financially during the 6 year they missed the playoffs, they are much more important than Lebron, dude can request a trade and Lakers could finish a season with 20-62 and they would still profit from just being the Lakers and that's it.

In the end Bogdan would be a good trade for Lakers because he is a good SG and could help out in the future but I feel like Kuzma is good anyway and they could just make the lineup with Kuzma at PF and AD at Center because AD can definitely play as Center.
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January 14, 2020, 03:38:36 PM
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 I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

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January 14, 2020, 04:16:03 PM
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Well, that's what Rondo is. He can get the team ahead by commanding them and also giving them some flash passes.
Maybe it's time for them to experiment to put Rondo in the starting line up and be the PG instead of James, do you think that would work?
Of course it would work. But, that could be a major adjustment becase LeBron stayed as PG for a lot of games and THEY ARE WINNING. So, probably if they'll start falling off they can pull this out.

Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones?  Grin
No I don't think he's having a hard time. He's just hastening the recruitment because he's already aging so fast and declining so fast. Even so, he's already having a blast in assists(his best season in giving dimes btw).




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January 14, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
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No I don't think he's having a hard time. He's just hastening the recruitment because he's already aging so fast and declining so fast. Even so, he's already having a blast in assists(his best season in giving dimes btw).
He was just preparing himself for the playoffs so he is not too aggressive now, with his style, he will tally a double double (points, asts) the least.
Lakers is already guaranteed to be in the playoffs based on their standing right now, If Lebron is not too aggressive he has Davis to step up the points for him and even the other players are stepping up because they know Lebron is not producing much points.

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January 14, 2020, 11:50:54 PM
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Lebron doesn't have that kind of influence at all anymore,..

Yes, maybe before but currently, it's insane to think that Lakers will just follow whatever he wants. Kobe is the only one who has a strong influence on the Lakers franchise or if LeBron is still on his prime but the latter didn't bring some achievement yet to the franchise and it's just his second season with the team. How come a big Lakers will be easily controlled by a post-prime veteran player. Just because LeBron is known to be an influential before and currently Lakers are on top of the standings today, some people think, especially his critics, that he controls the whole roster management in the Lakers. We don't know what's behind the table.

The Lakers itself is the one cooking this rumor of trade and not LeBron. They need to surround LeBron and AD with a much consistent player even they are gambling the future. LeBron is not the same as before and Davis will leave the team after this season so I think they are desperate now rather than to wait for that "young guns" to grow up. They need to be aggressive now, whatever it takes.

Kuzma will be a better player outside Lakers so I think people must be happy with that unless they are a Lakers fan. This kid will grow on other teams. It's a waste if this guy will still play behind big names. However, Kuzma will surely not be traded easily and I think this rumor will not happen*. Lakers will not let go of a talented guy without something good in return.



Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

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January 15, 2020, 02:25:51 AM
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I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

Yeah!!! Kobe can but not Lebron. Not on my knowledge though or any NBA analyst out there.
Magic might be Lebron's guy since he recruited him. But he ain't on the Lakers management anymore.

Anyway, who is seeing this?

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January 15, 2020, 02:40:02 AM
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I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

Yeah!!! Kobe can but not Lebron. Not on my knowledge though or any NBA analyst out there.
Magic might be Lebron's guy since he recruited him. But he ain't on the Lakers management anymore.

Anyway, who is seeing this?

Cleveland Cavaliers vs Los Angeles Clippers
Spread is (+15 1/2) for the Cavs with +900 on the moneyline.
It is a must win for the Cavs.  Grin

Kobe has clearly contributed more to Lakers than Lebron but of course Lebron is a current player. I am not aware of the internal influences and what nots but I guess every time there is a huddle inside and outside the court, Lebron is there.

I would go for Clippers with -14.5.
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January 15, 2020, 02:52:35 AM
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I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.

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January 15, 2020, 04:05:39 AM
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I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.

Edited. Thanks for pointing that out.

Anyway, just to add something, the game is on with Clippers: 31 and Cleveland: 26. Just the opening quarter. The lead will for sure balloon up to double digits as soon as the game progresses. 
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I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.

Edited. Thanks for pointing that out.

Anyway, just to add something, the game is on with Clippers: 31 and Cleveland: 26. Just the opening quarter. The lead will for sure balloon up to double digits as soon as the game progresses. 

Already 15 now, (65-50) and it seems like this will continue since Cavaliers lose last night against the Lakers and though they don't travel but a back to back game is really tiring, especially that they lose in their previous game.

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Already 15 now, (65-50) and it seems like this will continue since Cavaliers lose last night against the Lakers and though they don't travel but a back to back game is really tiring, especially that they lose in their previous game.

111-77 now with 10 minutes on the fourth.
It's devastating to see.
Already garbage time with a lot of time in the clock.

Well then, time for the 3rd stringers to showcase their abilities. But who else is watching at that time. I wont.
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