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June 13, 2024, 01:47:33 AM
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Anyways, I see Kyrie continuing to struggle in the remaining games. And Dallas cannot win if only Luka is the one producing good outputs. It's going to be 4-0 for Boston. Grin

I'm not sure about 4-0. However, based on the results of the two games of the final series, I would say that the Celtics look better than the Mavs as a team. You're right that the Mavs really only have Luka, who has been performing consistently and trying to do something against the Celtics. Maybe the outcome would have been different if Kyrie had performed better, but so far his performance has been mediocre.
We will see the ML since the game will be in the home court of the Dallas team, they are the favorite, so it could be a good indication that maybe the Mavs can take game 3 because it's going to be in their homecourt.

But it should be a team effort though, not just Luka but for the core specially Kyrie who has been missing in this finals. PJ Washington, Lively and Gafford should also help and not allow themselves to be outrebounded in the next game as it is also crucial for them to control the board and then run.

All of them needs to help, it's now on their homecourt and maybe they'll get some favor from the ref hehehe, but kidding aside, it's a team game and they need to have everyone to involve on both side, they need more on thier offense and  not just mostly from Luka but all the core players needs to step up and play their role to win and gain that confidence and switch the momentum, it's more on team adjsutments and they almost have that last game 2,

though for sure, most fans who watch that game still have that questionable calls from the refs, especially that possible momentum changer if that attempts of dunks fromWashington recieve that push contact from Brown the chance of snatching that game is possible for the Mavs, but, no call means to move forward and look for that clean win at home.
And looking at the first half, Luka and Kyrie has support already, with Lively and Washington and even Exum has a dunk. They even take a good lead in the first quarter to double digits but the Boston Celtics come back and now at the end of the first half, Dallas with a slim 1 point advantage. Luka though is shooting too much in this game and missing a lot, just saying. But it was also same with Boston, Jayson Tatum is having the best game of this series, still shooting from the outside. But it was more of Jaylen Brown, who is not into his shooting form in this game. But still they manage to hang on, and even taking the lead at times in the second quarter.

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June 13, 2024, 03:25:12 AM
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Dallas just couldn’t catch a break. I think everyone has to accept that Boston’s time has come. Taytum and Brown are getting their first chip. They really owe Luka because without Dallas beating Minnesota I don’t think we’d be in the position we’re in. As for the future for Dallas, I think this was their shot and they don’t make another NBA Finals for a long time.

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June 13, 2024, 03:42:14 AM
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Dallas just couldn’t catch a break. I think everyone has to accept that Boston’s time has come. Taytum and Brown are getting their first chip. They really owe Luka because without Dallas beating Minnesota I don’t think we’d be in the position we’re in. As for the future for Dallas, I think this was their shot and they don’t make another NBA Finals for a long time.
They were almost there. They caught with the Celtics 21-point lead and yet another officiating problem. Why is it that everytime the Mavericks are near at taking the lead from a huge deficit, the referee's will start stepping in and call stupid fouls or no call at all.
Again with Doncic attacking the paint a lot of times and yet you will hear no whistle. I mean, the Celtics could've been in a big foul trouble in the 3rd quarter if all of those were called.

Anyway, congratulations to the Celtics.
Luka post-game interview was asked about the officiating and he just said "I don't know.", I think he just doesn't want to get in trouble especially now that they still have a chance to fight back. There's actually something he can do, stop barking in Game 4, and start boxing out, I think that is his greatest weakness, he ain't boxing out anyone.

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June 13, 2024, 04:46:29 AM
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Dallas just couldn’t catch a break. I think everyone has to accept that Boston’s time has come. Taytum and Brown are getting their first chip. They really owe Luka because without Dallas beating Minnesota I don’t think we’d be in the position we’re in. As for the future for Dallas, I think this was their shot and they don’t make another NBA Finals for a long time.
I predicted that the Mavericks would win in 7 games in this series, but I didn't expect that the Celtics will just dominate them, and we saw it in Game 3. Now I guess with this win, we pretty much know the outcome of this, right? No team lost after having a 3-0 lead in the playoffs.

I want to win the Celtics now not only because they're stronger against the Celtics in all aspects, but I want Bob Cousy to see the Celtics winning its 18th title before leaving the Earth. He said in one interview that he's 95 years old already, and he wants to see the Celtics winning another title. With one win away, I guess what he wants will became a reality, eh. The duo for both teams really stepped especially Tatum and Irving who played awfully in the first 2 games. In the end, the Mavericks just couldn't stop their three-point shooting as they shot 17/46 as for the Mavericks 9/25. Anyway, this is pretty much over already. Congratulations Boston Celtics in Advance.

Just to add, I would like to say Rest in Peace to "The Logo" Jerry West who just passed away a few hours ago. I will not forget 2 things about him.
- His more than 3/4's buzzer beater shot, and the only player who won the Finals MVP despite his team losing. The 2nd achievement will stand alone in NBA history.

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June 13, 2024, 05:33:15 AM
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Dallas just couldn’t catch a break. I think everyone has to accept that Boston’s time has come. Taytum and Brown are getting their first chip. They really owe Luka because without Dallas beating Minnesota I don’t think we’d be in the position we’re in. As for the future for Dallas, I think this was their shot and they don’t make another NBA Finals for a long time.
I predicted that the Mavericks would win in 7 games in this series, but I didn't expect that the Celtics will just dominate them, and we saw it in Game 3. Now I guess with this win, we pretty much know the outcome of this, right? No team lost after having a 3-0 lead in the playoffs.

I want to win the Celtics now not only because they're stronger against the Celtics in all aspects, but I want Bob Cousy to see the Celtics winning its 18th title before leaving the Earth. He said in one interview that he's 95 years old already, and he wants to see the Celtics winning another title. With one win away, I guess what he wants will became a reality, eh. The duo for both teams really stepped especially Tatum and Irving who played awfully in the first 2 games. In the end, the Mavericks just couldn't stop their three-point shooting as they shot 17/46 as for the Mavericks 9/25. Anyway, this is pretty much over already. Congratulations Boston Celtics in Advance.
Celtics are just too good for the Dallas, they are full of shooters that Dallas could not stop. I've seen how they are confident in game 3, they are not hesitating their shots and that alone is already a big advantage for the team. Though Irving had bounce back from a bad scoring in game 1 and 2, but his points are hard earned, not easily looks but able to score. It's just unfortunate that Luka were fouled out after the Dallas had a great run, but it was too late for them, they can't play catch up against a team who have all the weapons to win.

It seems like the loss of KP does not affect the team negatively, in fact, they win the game easily.



Just to add, I would like to say Rest in Peace to "The Logo" Jerry West who just passed away a few hours ago. I will not forget 2 things about him.
- His more than 3/4's buzzer beater shot, and the only player who won the Finals MVP despite his team losing. The 2nd achievement will stand alone in NBA history.

ohh... RIP to him too. People come and go but he'll be remembered as a legend in the NBA. About the FMVP on the losing team, I thought Lebron also won that but I confirmed he didn't he just almost won it in 2015.

But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

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June 13, 2024, 06:50:27 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I think it's unlikely to happen especially if Dallas will get swept. When the opposing team are not competitive, there's no chance their best player will win a Finals MVP. If we compared the individual record, of course Luka would have an upper hand as he has been carrying his team in the last 3 games, but the Celtics played great teamwork, so the NBA will just pick one of them.

IMO, this could only be between Brownd and Tatum.

So let's compare their statistics.
Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      1                 16      11            5
Brown      1                 22       6             2


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Brown      2                 21       4             7

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Tatum      3                 31       6             5
Brown      3                 30       8             8
   

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June 13, 2024, 07:24:38 AM
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Dallas just couldn’t catch a break. I think everyone has to accept that Boston’s time has come. Taytum and Brown are getting their first chip. They really owe Luka because without Dallas beating Minnesota I don’t think we’d be in the position we’re in. As for the future for Dallas, I think this was their shot and they don’t make another NBA Finals for a long time.

Yeah, it's just that the Celtics is too strong and too good for them. I think this is the game that that could have won, because they took a good lead in the first quarter and then remain consistent in the second quarter. But the Celtics found their rhythm on the third and I thought that it was over. But Dallas come back to the delight of the crowd and I thought that they can do it.

And we can't really deny that this is Boston time though, after their lost to the Warriors in 2022, they come back strong in 2024, having the best record in the NBA and now one win away from post era of Pierce, KG, Rondo and Ray Allen and win another championship.

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June 13, 2024, 08:15:23 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I agree with what Maslate wrote above, the FMVP award will go to either Tatum or Brown. If Luka had averaged 40-45+ points per game in this series, he could have been eligible for this award despite the loss. But as it is, the final series turned out to be kind of boring, i.e. without any intrigue. I mean, the Celtics took the Mavs too easy.

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June 13, 2024, 08:28:35 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I agree with what Maslate wrote above, the FMVP award will go to either Tatum or Brown. If Luka had averaged 40-45+ points per game in this series, he could have been eligible for this award despite the loss. But as it is, the final series turned out to be kind of boring, i.e. without any intrigue. I mean, the Celtics took the Mavs too easy.

It still depends on the performance of the other team despite Luka can do 40+ points per game since the impact of the players to win the game is the number 1 criteria which the panel is considering.

So even if Luka score with that monster stats his team is always behind by huge number while the other team like Jalen Brown score has a decent stats that gives huge factor to win the game make it Jalen more in favor to get the FMVP.

AFAIK, Only late Jerry West did that since he had a monster performance while carrying his team to game 7 which I doubt Luka can do now with 3-0 stats.

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June 13, 2024, 09:16:44 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I agree with what Maslate wrote above, the FMVP award will go to either Tatum or Brown. If Luka had averaged 40-45+ points per game in this series, he could have been eligible for this award despite the loss. But as it is, the final series turned out to be kind of boring, i.e. without any intrigue. I mean, the Celtics took the Mavs too easy.

Yeah, I think it will be Brown though, (I might be biased here), but in the Eastern conference finals, it was Brown who has declared the winner and he is really performing very well in the last 2 games. This could be his worst performance though, but still even though he has a bad shooting in the first half, he was able to recover and carry the team in the second half.

But then again, at least 1 win for the Mavs here, we don't want a boring finals series wherein it was a sweep. We can only hope that they can still win the next game and then we see how it goes.

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June 13, 2024, 09:36:14 AM
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It maybe huge lose for losing Porzingis on their roster but still Celtics is fine. They already reach up to finals even if he's not around. Its just unfortunate that Celtics that he's out again due to injury since his presence will make Celtics became more stronger.

But unfortunately bad luck happen and he suffer from rare injury that's why Celtics maybe need to adjust their rotation again to remain their positive flow on finals. Game 3 will be exciting for both Mavs and Celtics fans since for sure that Porzingis absence will give certain hope for Mavs that they can eliminate those disadvantages what Porzingis could bring in the court.

That's the reality we can't deny but the job of the Dallas in scoring the paint would be easier as Celtics does not have big men that are good defenders. Well, Al horford is there but he'll get tired and will not be effective in scoring if he'll continue to defend the paint, and we all know he is old or getting old, so he can't play heavy minutes defending.

It's a good advantage of the Mavericks if KP will indeed not gonna play, but as we all see in the last game, he tored his ankle and after that he wasn't moving the same anymore, so I guess it's Dallas time to win.

I though they really have a good kick in on game 3 since they are showing good momentum on early quarters of that game. Also when they have a good run and turn the double digit lead to 2. But they didn't manage to handle their momentum so well when Luka got ejected so I guess this is totally done for Mavs and we could able to see that Celtics will take the championship next season.

It still depends on the performance of the other team despite Luka can do 40+ points per game since the impact of the players to win the game is the number 1 criteria which the panel is considering.

So even if Luka score with that monster stats his team is always behind by huge number while the other team like Jalen Brown score has a decent stats that gives huge factor to win the game make it Jalen more in favor to get the FMVP.



I don't think Luka will be in that discussion since for sure the FMVP will in between Tatum and Brown. But I believe that Brown have more higher chance to get that achievement knowing how monstrous performance he always bring to give Celtics a huge advantage to win. I thought we will see a long series between Celtics and Dallas but guess Celtics will finish this series as earliest as they can.

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June 13, 2024, 11:01:12 AM
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So even if Luka score with that monster stats his team is always behind by huge number while the other team like Jalen Brown score has a decent stats that gives huge factor to win the game make it Jalen more in favor to get the FMVP.



I don't think Luka will be in that discussion since for sure the FMVP will in between Tatum and Brown. But I believe that Brown have more higher chance to get that achievement knowing how monstrous performance he always bring to give Celtics a huge advantage to win. I thought we will see a long series between Celtics and Dallas but guess Celtics will finish this series as earliest as they can.

Luka surely out of the picture for FMVP, We are just discussing about the potential FMVP for him if he averages 40+ point on every game even if Dallas the finals.

Totally Agree that Brown get this FMVP award. Tatum has less impact on finals while Brown always score whenever Boston needs it the most. They totally switch roles as my scorer since Tatum mostly does the 2nd corer role for Brown.

This games 3 is almost a win for Dallas if Luka didn’t foul out, they already have the momentum. Sucks to be FO on crucial time. If they get game 3 win then I guess they might force to tie the series.

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June 13, 2024, 11:20:00 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I think it's unlikely to happen especially if Dallas will get swept. When the opposing team are not competitive, there's no chance their best player will win a Finals MVP. If we compared the individual record, of course Luka would have an upper hand as he has been carrying his team in the last 3 games, but the Celtics played great teamwork, so the NBA will just pick one of them.

IMO, this could only be between Brownd and Tatum.

So let's compare their statistics.
Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      1                 16      11            5
Brown      1                 22       6             2


Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      2                 18       9             12
Brown      2                 21       4             7

Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      3                 31       6             5
Brown      3                 30       8             8
   

If this series goes to game 7 and Luka keeps producing the same excellent output then he can get the FMVP. But we're sensing a sweep or maybe 4-1 or 4-2 here. Besides, as shown in the stats, Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum are also doing good numbers although still not comparable to that of Luka. But it is what it is, the award most likely to the best player of the winning team.

As for who gets the FMVP between Brown and Tatum, I am favoring the former. Tatum has to stop taking lots of threes and drive his way to the basket if he wants to steal the FMVP. One more game and Boston might get the title.

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June 13, 2024, 11:33:23 AM
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Kristaps Porzingis has been ruled out officially for tonight. If Dallas can’t pull out a win here, it’s over. Even if they do win it is still an uphill battle, but tonight everything seems to be aligned for them to get a win. Kyrie needs to have a good game and redeem himself a little bit and I think Kristaps being out gives Doncic a slight advantage offensively. We’ll see…
This is already one factor for them to win the game tonight.

Since Kristaps Porzingis has played, he did great for the past game that he's in. But the Mavs won't still be confident with that, they can move and still play well even if he's not there.

We've seen that in their games when KP has been ruled out and not able to play. Luka and Kyrie needs to do it properly and they need to lead the team better than the recent games they've got.

Krista's porzingas was the x factor here tonight just like he was in the first 2 games.  Dallas needs to figure out how to contain Tatum to make sure he doesn't have one of those 50 point games.  Think Dallas smells blood and with them being at home I like theor chances here.  Luka for 40-15-10 tonight.
They didn't contained Tatum's deadly shots.

The Dallas are more hungry this time but probably they're also accepting their faith that they are near to the end of this series.

A lot of Dallas Mavericks fans are sure disappointed with the game 3 and are likely gonna accept that they're already going to see the ring bearers for this season.

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This games 3 is almost a win for Dallas if Luka didn’t foul out, they already have the momentum. Sucks to be FO on crucial time. If they get game 3 win then I guess they might force to tie the series.

What happen to Luka is really big loss for Mavs since if he didn't get fouled out maybe they could able to change the outcome of the game. They starting to have a momentum but unfortunately he commit a mistake for trying to get a foul from Brown. Its so rare to see him get fouled out and maybe he's frustrated to much that's why he commit a lot of fouls in game 3.

They need to focus since if they let theirselves get frustrated on any actions that's not favor to them then provably that they might commit mistakes and Boston will take advantage on. But the game is done then I guess Mavs locker room is so pressured since it seems like they can do anything and Celtics is so strong for them.

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June 13, 2024, 11:48:01 AM
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But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I think it's unlikely to happen especially if Dallas will get swept. When the opposing team are not competitive, there's no chance their best player will win a Finals MVP. If we compared the individual record, of course Luka would have an upper hand as he has been carrying his team in the last 3 games, but the Celtics played great teamwork, so the NBA will just pick one of them.

IMO, this could only be between Brownd and Tatum.

So let's compare their statistics.
Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      1                 16      11            5
Brown      1                 22       6             2


Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      2                 18       9             12
Brown      2                 21       4             7

Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      3                 31       6             5
Brown      3                 30       8             8
   

If this series goes to game 7 and Luka keeps producing the same excellent output then he can get the FMVP. But we're sensing a sweep or maybe 4-1 or 4-2 here. Besides, as shown in the stats, Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum are also doing good numbers although still not comparable to that of Luka. But it is what it is, the award most likely to the best player of the winning team.

As for who gets the FMVP between Brown and Tatum, I am favoring the former. Tatum has to stop taking lots of threes and drive his way to the basket if he wants to steal the FMVP. One more game and Boston might get the title.

A game of numbers in terms of FMVP, seems that Brown is more closer not unless if Tatum will bring out the best of him either in game 4 or game 5, but if they produced same numbers as how they are producing both now  I quess it's again Brown will win that FMVP.

Though for me, it's the title that's important and as duo whoever wins the FMVP they just need to support each other and keep that momentum it's been a long delay for these two young stars they already got their chance before I guess they'll not going to let this one to passed.

One more win and Boston will again be crown as world champion, it's been a long while and now they are closer to take it!

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June 13, 2024, 12:22:20 PM
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I have to accept that Dallas is not going to win this Cup. Last night was their last chance but they lost again and the series is 3-0. Boston will win the last game or win one more game and become champions.
I'm really disappointed with this result.

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June 13, 2024, 12:30:17 PM
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I have to accept that Dallas is not going to win this Cup. Last night was their last chance but they lost again and the series is 3-0. Boston will win the last game or win one more game and become champions.


Their first time together, that's fine. Celtics also suffered a defeat before in the NBA finals, and even got eliminated early the next season. At least Dallas had reach the NBA finals, it's already a big achievement for the team, and now that they've seen the current roster is not enough to win a championship, for sure next season there will be a huge adjustment and they will be better. 

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You are not the only one, but we have the accept the reality, too much love for Dallas but this series is a mismatch.

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I'm really disappointed with this result.

You are not the only one, but we have the accept the reality, too much love for Dallas but this series is a mismatch.
Many are disappointed.

And after that disappointment, the lost of hope was found to most of the Mavericks fans. As said in the history, no one has ever got back with a 0-3 standing.

That's why this is an acceptable lost for most fans of the Mavs because it's unlikely for them to bounce back unless some miracle happens but it's like 99.99% ring for the Celtics already.

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June 13, 2024, 04:37:35 PM
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I like that the officials are not calling weak fouls but it must not wreck the game when there's a foul that needed to be called especially when the offensive player was forced to change his shooting form because of it.
I think the officials did not do great today, there's so many bad calls that should've been a let go, then there are weak calls that was called.
Consistency, that's their problem.
The Celtics might sweep the Mavericks this series but I hope the official will have a long meeting about all these questionable calls.
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