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It seems the competition for btc debit card is harder now. For a user like me it is actually very good. By the eay, thanks fir the list so I can compare directly the lowest fee ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is very nice that btc comes to real life
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June 04, 2017, 12:02:16 AM |
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Does anyone know which companies the following BIN belongs too..
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Ideally, one that can create multiple cards without verification.
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June 04, 2017, 04:31:37 AM |
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Does anyone know which companies the following BIN belongs too..
531169
Ideally, one that can create multiple cards without verification.
It's the Gibraltar based bank Wave Crest Holding's Mastercard BIN. You can use bindb.com for such searches. Many bitcoin debit card issuers use the same bank's services for debit card issuance.
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June 04, 2017, 07:01:30 AM |
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It will be better to add a comparison chart of all the Bitcoin-based debit cards in the front page of this thread. I want to know which debit card is the most affordable one for me. I am not a heavy user. Even if I get a debit card, I am going to use it no more than 2-3 times per month, mostly to withdraw fiat cash from the ATMs.
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June 04, 2017, 09:31:40 AM |
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Does anyone know which companies the following BIN belongs too..
531169
Ideally, one that can create multiple cards without verification.
It's the Gibraltar based bank Wave Crest Holding's Mastercard BIN. You can use bindb.com for such searches. Many bitcoin debit card issuers use the same bank's services for debit card issuance. Thank you for that. I have done a BIN check and can't seem to find which companies use it. I only know that advcash use it, but looking for other companies.
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June 04, 2017, 11:48:56 AM |
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Does anyone know which companies the following BIN belongs too..
531169
Ideally, one that can create multiple cards without verification.
It's the Gibraltar based bank Wave Crest Holding's Mastercard BIN. You can use bindb.com for such searches. Many bitcoin debit card issuers use the same bank's services for debit card issuance. Thank you for that. I have done a BIN check and can't seem to find which companies use it. I only know that advcash use it, but looking for other companies. Many companies use the same bank for their debit card service. I don't have a list of them all but it might even be the majority of the debit card services. Uquid too, and some of Coinsbank'horìs cards as well. It will be better to add a comparison chart of all the Bitcoin-based debit cards in the front page of this thread. I want to know which debit card is the most affordable one for me. I am not a heavy user. Even if I get a debit card, I am going to use it no more than 2-3 times per month, mostly to withdraw fiat cash from the ATMs.
This'd be better off as a project outside of bitcointalk but I don't have much time atm.
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I use uquid now for about one month and everything works for me.
Deposit, card loading and getting cash at atms - no problemo ;-)
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June 05, 2017, 08:49:04 PM |
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What do you think about the Monaco card?
Personally, I'd stay away from the ICO. Their marketing goes on an on with buzzwords and unrealistic promises for what is essentially a product that's been widely available for years now. I can't think why ICO founding would be needed for a debit card that could actually get issued by a company with minimal investment. It's sad that the ethereum hype lead to such a project getting millions in funding because other that catchy designs there's nothing innovative to be seen here IMO, and even if there's potential we've still not seen any evidence for it. Also, with a reward system that sound like a ponzi scheme, this might be the most sketchy crypto debit card I've seen.
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June 05, 2017, 09:50:54 PM |
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What do you think about the Monaco card?
Personally, I'd stay away from the ICO. Their marketing goes on an on with buzzwords and unrealistic promises for what is essentially a product that's been widely available for years now. I can't think why ICO founding would be needed for a debit card that could actually get issued by a company with minimal investment. It's sad that the ethereum hype lead to such a project getting millions in funding because other that catchy designs there's nothing innovative to be seen here IMO, and even if there's potential we've still not seen any evidence for it. Also, with a reward system that sound like a ponzi scheme, this might be the most sketchy crypto debit card I've seen.
The card itself seems like a good idea. I am just not convinced by the crowdsale itself. The rewarding scheme makes people want to buy in fast to get better rewards, which sounds fishy. I do agree that it seems unnecessary to have an ICO for it, since others have already implemented similar ideas without the need for one. They do seem to be going farther than the alternatives in regards to obtaining partners and having better availability for the card. At this point, however, it is all merely speculation.
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What do you think about the Monaco card?
Personally, I'd stay away from the ICO. Their marketing goes on an on with buzzwords and unrealistic promises for what is essentially a product that's been widely available for years now. I can't think why ICO founding would be needed for a debit card that could actually get issued by a company with minimal investment. It's sad that the ethereum hype lead to such a project getting millions in funding because other that catchy designs there's nothing innovative to be seen here IMO, and even if there's potential we've still not seen any evidence for it. Also, with a reward system that sound like a ponzi scheme, this might be the most sketchy crypto debit card I've seen.
Card issuer came out ICO i not trusted at all.
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June 08, 2017, 05:45:37 PM |
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Hi everyone,
Looking for 2 types of services/ cards
1. I need a service where I can create more than 20-30 virtual cards without any problems in a sec. (Something like SEB bank offers in online bank, where you can create as much cards as you want 1 or 100 in hour without problem). (Support from Kardiz told me that I can create s much accounts there as i want and on every account can be created 3 cards) But may be someone knows where I can do the same but with 100 cards?
2. Urgent: looking for service, where i can create a virtual card, which can be load up with 3rd parties. I want use a card in online casino and withdraw money to this card. (Also Support from Kardiz told me that I can do that, also anonymous however I can not withdraw money from this card to anywhere) May be cryptopay, but they asked for documents if you want to load up the card from 3rd parties.
Anyone can me help with right service? Better if it is anonym. Would like to create a few virtual cards for casino/paypal and etc. The best service for me is, where I can create 100 virtual cards without verifying documents + can withdraw on them money + can change money back to BTC... as I said Kardiz is good for that, BUT YOU CAN NOT withdraw money from card!!
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June 10, 2017, 08:21:40 AM |
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Hi everyone,
Looking for 2 types of services/ cards
1. I need a service where I can create more than 20-30 virtual cards without any problems in a sec. (Something like SEB bank offers in online bank, where you can create as much cards as you want 1 or 100 in hour without problem). (Support from Kardiz told me that I can create s much accounts there as i want and on every account can be created 3 cards) But may be someone knows where I can do the same but with 100 cards?
2. Urgent: looking for service, where i can create a virtual card, which can be load up with 3rd parties. I want use a card in online casino and withdraw money to this card. (Also Support from Kardiz told me that I can do that, also anonymous however I can not withdraw money from this card to anywhere) May be cryptopay, but they asked for documents if you want to load up the card from 3rd parties.
Anyone can me help with right service? Better if it is anonym. Would like to create a few virtual cards for casino/paypal and etc. The best service for me is, where I can create 100 virtual cards without verifying documents + can withdraw on them money + can change money back to BTC... as I said Kardiz is good for that, BUT YOU CAN NOT withdraw money from card!!
As I posted in the thread you created, I think that you should be contacting providers to find a sufficient answer, they ought to know better than users. If you find an answer please do let me know. You're looking for a very specific use case but it'd be interesting to see which services can fulfill such requirements.
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I think I'm going to avoid adding any cards supported by ICOs in the OP for the same reason's I think monaco card could very well be a scam. If they're released and made available to the public they'd earn a spot.
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June 12, 2017, 09:18:23 PM |
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Does anyone have any reviews or experiences with this debit card?
https:://bitplastic.com/bitcoin-debit-card
The founder doesn't have a great reputation. There are cheaper and better services anyway. Why are you following the specific one?
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June 13, 2017, 07:51:28 AM |
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Does anyone have any reviews or experiences with this debit card?
https:://bitplastic.com/bitcoin-debit-card
The founder doesn't have a great reputation. There are cheaper and better services anyway. Why are you following the specific one? I did not have anything special with him just to bump on him so I'm curious whether it is legit I have a cryptopay debit card but I was thinking of taking another one, I signed up for paycent, so we'll see how they'll turn out
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alani123 (OP)
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June 14, 2017, 09:45:10 PM |
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Does anyone have any reviews or experiences with this debit card?
https:://bitplastic.com/bitcoin-debit-card
The founder doesn't have a great reputation. There are cheaper and better services anyway. Why are you following the specific one? I did not have anything special with him just to bump on him so I'm curious whether it is legit I have a cryptopay debit card but I was thinking of taking another one, I signed up for paycent, so we'll see how they'll turn out I'd recommend against using bitplastic, reviews aren't great. Look into other services in the list, search for reviews and discussions in this community (as well as their fees and what they offer) and make up your own mind. I can't be sure of what you're looking for but to give you some general directions, services I've listed in the main section of the thread are at the very least (and to my knowledge) not facing widespread accusations of scamming.
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June 17, 2017, 07:17:31 PM |
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Any suggestions of an unverified card that will be accepted for recurring/membership charges? I'm having a heck of a time with Lavapay's Visa Virtuon and don't want to have to waste any more money unless I'm *sure* it's going to work...
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spatifilium
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June 17, 2017, 08:50:29 PM |
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I think not verified cards will become more cost-effective, because the new legislation has come Today I have received this from cryptopay:
The 4th EU Money Laundering Directive (4MLD) that will take action on 26 June, 2017. In line with this document, starting from 26th of June, all limits for unverified clients will change in accordance with the government regulators’ guidelines:
The maximum load for an unverified cardholder across all cards will be reduced from € 2,500 to €250. The maximum unload through point of sale transaction and ATM withdrawal for an unverified cardholder across all cards will be restricted to €100.
To summarize, to be able to load more than €250 or to exceed the spending limit of €100, the cardholder has to be verified.
This would mean that it is impossible to raise the amounts as before, and if we consider how much the card issue costs, 10% is just the cost of making and sending the card to the user now how much money you will be able to raise and spend on it.
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alani123 (OP)
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June 18, 2017, 06:06:12 AM |
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Any suggestions of an unverified card that will be accepted for recurring/membership charges? I'm having a heck of a time with Lavapay's Visa Virtuon and don't want to have to waste any more money unless I'm *sure* it's going to work...
It is going to work but make sure a small excess of money is going to be in the card at the expected time of the transaction. The card service might be getting a monthly fee and this might make it so your card doesn't have enough balance, especially if the charge is automatic. I think not verified cards will become more cost-effective, because the new legislation has come Today I have received this from cryptopay:
The 4th EU Money Laundering Directive (4MLD) that will take action on 26 June, 2017. In line with this document, starting from 26th of June, all limits for unverified clients will change in accordance with the government regulators’ guidelines:
The maximum load for an unverified cardholder across all cards will be reduced from € 2,500 to €250. The maximum unload through point of sale transaction and ATM withdrawal for an unverified cardholder across all cards will be restricted to €100.
To summarize, to be able to load more than €250 or to exceed the spending limit of €100, the cardholder has to be verified.
This would mean that it is impossible to raise the amounts as before, and if we consider how much the card issue costs, 10% is just the cost of making and sending the card to the user now how much money you will be able to raise and spend on it.
Interesting. My thoughts are that if the market can only offer cards for which users will need to be fully verified, people will probably end up signing up for e-banks like Mistertango, n26 and Leupay to get cards. Those are cheaper anyway.
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