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operator55
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March 05, 2018, 09:30:59 AM |
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I highly advise against using upaycard, their verification process is very suspicious and few of my friends had similar issues. The people responsible for verification are completly incompetent:
1. i've submitted my id 2. they asked for better quality, 3. I've submitted better quality 4. They said it's duplicate...
Not saying even that the quality was good.. seems that they can't use zoom.
Also few of my friends had been asked, to provide more ids - even if the first submitted one was ok.
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March 12, 2018, 12:01:04 AM |
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It has always been prepaid. Not one single provider or exchange offers a card with a credit line attached to it. Earlier cards offered by Cryptopay, Wirex, Advcash etc all required coins first be converted to fiat. The money (USD, GBP, EUR) was then loaded into the cards. The cards worked only after completing the loading process. So essentially one had to prepay funds into the cards before ATM and merchants honored them. I'm sure fraud was not the only concern behind the Wave Crest saga. It probably was triggered by compliance issues. Accepting KYC documents from less developed economies is a very challenging process. Unlike the US SSN system and the EEA's national ID card system, it is difficult to verify and authenticate an ID from, for example, Brazil or Vietnam or China and all those other countries. And another cause of the Wave Crest card drama was that one unknown factor. Where was all that money loaded into the cards coming from? Were they laundered funds? Looking back, I think I can understand Visa's decision to shut down the Wave Crest card program. The card had a daily transaction limit of USD 2000 with no lifetime and annual limits, making it a convenient tool for money laundering. One only needed 5 cards to hit the 10k USD transaction limit, a reportable threshold. But of course none is ever reported.
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prtomic
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256
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prtomic
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April 30, 2018, 11:21:10 AM |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it.
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alani123 (OP)
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April 30, 2018, 11:29:12 AM |
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Would anyone be willing to help me update this thread? I don't have much time lately.
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May 02, 2018, 08:34:12 PM |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive
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gentlemand
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May 03, 2018, 12:40:28 PM |
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Would anyone be willing to help me update this thread? I don't have much time lately.
There's this - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DRbTeMCzb4UeXI0YlAzBxMc2u2i0cN_17Ql6eMngK6E/edit#gid=0which someone is maintaining, but the problem with this subject is that these cards have now become infected with ICO vapourware or cards coming 'soon' so most recommendations turn out to be a load of bollocks that'll never happen. I'm going to wait until a previous established player opens up again.
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alani123 (OP)
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May 03, 2018, 01:50:59 PM |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive Yeah, I tried to remain critical of ICOs when maintaining my thread more actively. Most turned out to have no product just as I expected.
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive Yeah, I tried to remain critical of ICOs when maintaining my thread more actively. Most turned out to have no product just as I expected. Hey guys I want make test EUR10 BTC - > VirWox -> BTC -> SLL -> EUR Withdraw to PayPal fee 1EUR + 2% PayPal What do you think of such a plan?
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prtomic
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May 04, 2018, 10:25:30 AM |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive It's the one off fee for the whole period of four years, no additional maintenance costs. Crypto to fiat and vice versa is 1.5%. And I don't have an alternative, for my country it's the only working card I know.
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May 04, 2018, 10:28:31 AM Last edit: May 04, 2018, 12:55:51 PM by prtomic |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive Yeah, I tried to remain critical of ICOs when maintaining my thread more actively. Most turned out to have no product just as I expected. Hey guys I want make test EUR10 BTC - > VirWox -> BTC -> SLL -> EUR Withdraw to PayPal fee 1EUR + 2% PayPal What do you think of such a plan? I was using it but in the opposite direction, and it worked for me. But I haven't used it for a while. It would be nice to post the full breakdown of all costs in the end. I tested it with around 100 EUR, what was my limit at that time. I've just checked my account on VirWox, and found few EUR there Now I'm testing the withdrawal for the first time. Current transaction is being executed manually due to the security, will confirm when I receive it.
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prtomic
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May 05, 2018, 06:38:06 AM |
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Paycent launched their mobile wallet app, currently supporting BTC and ETH. LTC is already included in the app and it will be active soon. Dash is coming as well. I also pre-registered for their MasterCard, passed the KYC and was one of the beta testers. They also have promotion in April, during which you can earn 100 or 200 free PYN tokens: https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal/status/980683160332640256They are the only project currently which starts delivering their card. Their card comes under MasterCard card brand so it will be possible to use all PoS and ATM in the network worldwide. The delivery started today (30th April). Worldwide coverage expect for few sanctioned countries. I’m waiting for my card to be delivered. Will let you now when I use it. card is too expensive Yeah, I tried to remain critical of ICOs when maintaining my thread more actively. Most turned out to have no product just as I expected. Hey guys I want make test EUR10 BTC - > VirWox -> BTC -> SLL -> EUR Withdraw to PayPal fee 1EUR + 2% PayPal What do you think of such a plan? I was using it but in the opposite direction, and it worked for me. But I haven't used it for a while. It would be nice to post the full breakdown of all costs in the end. I tested it with around 100 EUR, what was my limit at that time. I've just checked my account on VirWox, and found few EUR there Now I'm testing the withdrawal for the first time. Current transaction is being executed manually due to the security, will confirm when I receive it. I received the test amount on the same day. I suppose my future withdrawals will be transferred automatically.
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Addisonbt
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May 07, 2018, 05:11:23 PM |
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btc -> Virwox -> linden $ -> EUR -> Paypal
total fee big ?
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alani123 (OP)
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btc -> Virwox -> linden $ -> EUR -> Paypal
total fee big ?
Yup. This is for market orders, i.e. selling at market price: And there's a fee for PayPal withdrawal as well. A handling fee of 1 EUR (1 USD, 1 CHF, 1 GBP) + 2% PayPal Fee per PayPal withdrawal will be charged. Overall, very big fees. 100 EUR in BTC would go through the fee for BTC/SLL 3.9% -> 96.1 96.1 EUR in linden would go through the fee for SLL/EUR 2.9% -> 93.31 93.31 EUR would go through the PP withdrawal fee 1+2% -> 90.44 EUR final sum.
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I tried to pass KYC with them , for almost two weeks , that was like bashing head against stone wall ... no probs with ID verification , but residence proof was bad joke. they state following: Proof of address (POA) should be dated within the last 3 months. It must contain your full name, residence address, and issuance date. Scanned images of the following paper documents are acceptable (choose one from the list below): *a bill for utilities consumed at your home address (water bill, Internet bill, electricity bill, or any utility bill). NB! Mobile phone bills are not accepted; *a bank statement (must reflect some transactional activity). NB! Online statements are not accepted; *a council tax bill dated within the last 12 months; *a government-issued letter relating to tax benefits etc. they rejected my internet provider bill and my montly apartament/utility bill with comments that they are digitally issued bills ... anyone thees days still have non-digitally issued bills ? for example im not ... none , and have no means to get such. they rejected my city council apartament owner and land owner tax bill , because it was more than 3 months old , apearantly only city councils they consider trustworthy and is valid for 12 months can come from UK. at the same time digitally photographed paper utility bill is ok, or so they claim ... does that makes any sense to you ? never encountered such nonsense , and im verified with almost all of EU based card providers. So our comunication ended kinda abruptly because its imposible to deal with such utter bs, even more that they still dont have cards on hands and most probably by the time they start to issue card , TenX , Xapo , Bitwala and other providers will start to reissue their canceled cards. just sharing my experience about their verification procedures ...
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gentlemand
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May 08, 2018, 08:48:36 PM |
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NB! Online statements are not accepted;
Can you not download a PDF statement? That's what I've done for verification elsewhere. Anywhere that doesn't accept that in this day and age is clearly not professional enough to deal with.
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