So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?

[SRoulette]

I said businesses, not owners.  Nobody in the real world gives two shits about business owners, they want to know the credibility of a business.  The discussion is about "So you want to start a bitcoin business... it must use WOT!"

There are no successful bitcoin businesses using WOT as a means of establishing trust or credibility.

I don't see anything on MtGox, Aurumexchange, etc... listing anything about WOT.

But lets go ahead and say the owners.  If you look at the owners and you combine ALL of the WOT ratings for everyone you listed, exactly 4 entries are dated 2013... that's out of everyone you listed.  The rest are 2011 and some in 2012.  If they were using WOT, they should all have 2013 entries.  They don't.  GMaxwell, not a business, has 3 entries in 2013.  He is the leader by 300% compared to the next nearest competitor.  Everyone else has zero.

+1

What counts as a success ?
If its making a profit and steadily increasing customer base then I guess we are considered a success  .
None of our clients care about #bitcoin-otc when we have provably fair results on our side and a 10 months of operation.

As I previously commented given that ~90% of bitcoins biggest scams were perpetuated thanks to #bitcoin-otc trust its a clear sign the service is useless.

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[Rassah]

Uh, I think her point was about using #bitcoin-otc for business to business relationships, not for clients. I may have misread though.

[Astrophysical]

lol thanks for the funny read and nice suggestions 

once more than 1% of total number of bitcoins mined to the present time are in circulation each day we'll see which businesses that utilize bitcoin are the most successful

[Zaih]

I believe you're extremely rude posting this link on peoples threads whom are starting up. Sure, some people go in a little less prepared than others, but that's their choice. I'm sure many people who have started up a BTC based business, only to receive your irrational 2 word reply, have ended up doing great. Some people are fast learners/adapters, and can induce their prior knowledge into stuff such as a Bitcoin business. They don't need your guide on how to do it.

I'm not sure if you're simply doing it for page views, or that you're genuinely worried about the individual. Either way, I believe you should 'back off' a bit and leave people alone.

If you wish to preach your advice, send the person a PM explaining where you believe they're going wrong and how to fix it. Leave their thread alone, because you're only unfairly making them look bad. I understand you like to be seen as a tough sort of guy, but is it really necessary?

Don't bother quoting me with one of your rude comments, because I most likely won't see it.

[hiima]

Definitely a good read.

[btcminer021]

What's WOT and OTC?

[MPOE-PR]

Jesus Christ the peanut gallery got uppity in the meanwhile. I hadn't even noticed.

As I previously commented given that ~90% of bitcoins biggest scams were perpetuated thanks to #bitcoin-otc trust its a clear sign the service is useless.

Repeating something stupid does not make you right. It makes you stupid. Go read more, talk less, become less stupid.

I know you think you're good as you are, even though you don't manage to matter or do anything noteworthy because of this mistaken belief and to the detriment of your actual ability and potential. This squandering is a symptom of the stated stupidity.

I believe you're extremely rude posting this link on peoples threads whom are starting up.

I believe your mother was a whore and she got knocked up by a drunk. Take your beliefs, stick them wherever they fit and get lost. When such enchanting excrement as them "beliefs" are required you'll be notified.

What's WOT and OTC?

WoT aka Web of Trust is something described here and available via gribble the irc bot. You can also check out the dedicated website here.

OTC means "over the counter", which is roughly the opposite of "over an exchange". It's a common shorthand for a number of irc channels (chief among which is #bitcoin-assets) and their associated intangibles.

[btcminer021]

What's WOT and OTC?

If it's not clear, this was sarcastic

[VforVictory]

What's WOT and OTC?

WOT=World of Tanks?

[Rassah]

What's WOT and OTC?

WOT=World of Tanks?

WOT = Way Out There... newb

[t13hydra]

Absolutely a great lesson! Thanks for that, domnu'. I will freakin' bookmark this thread and put it in the middle of my Desktop!

Stefan (CJ)

[SRoulette]

Repeating something stupid does not make you right. It makes you stupid. Go read more, talk less, become less stupid.

And throwing a tantrum like a spoiled teenager and screaming that your are right does not make it so.
I stated a fact that you are unable to counter, throw all the e-tantrums you wish, all it does is lessen what little respect people already have for you.

I know you think you're good as you are, even though you don't manage to matter or do anything noteworthy because of this mistaken belief and to the detriment of your actual ability and potential. This squandering is a symptom of the stated stupidity.

If you could calm down and repeat that in english i would he happy to respond   Unfortunately you let your emotions rule your mind and I am having trouble deciphering your responses.

Still I should expect no less from an a public supporter of a mentally unsound outspoken racist.

[mem]

Im still reeling from what was just bought to my attention.

As the maintainer of one of the most trusted gambling lists it is my solemn advice to Never do business with MPEx/ MPO-ER unless you wish your own business to be branded a supporter of a hate group.

This idiot MPO-ER's behaviour shows he is at a guess 14 years old and to immature to handle any serious business discussion. Its no surprise that a deep seated racist has managed to co-opt this person into supporting his cause.

to be clear I have no strong  feelings about OTC one way or the other but this person MPO-ER, the businss MPEx and all businesses associated with it are not to be trusted imho and do not deserve your business.

[Milkshake]

Im still reeling from what was just bought to my attention.

As the maintainer of one of the most trusted gambling lists it is my solemn advice to Never do business with MPEx/ MPO-ER unless you wish your own business to be branded a supporter of a hate group.

This idiot MPO-ER's behaviour shows he is at a guess 14 years old and to immature to handle any serious business discussion. Its no surprise that a deep seated racist has managed to co-opt this person into supporting his cause.

to be clear I have no strong  feelings about OTC one way or the other but this person MPO-ER, the businss MPEx and all businesses associated with it are not to be trusted imho and do not deserve your business.

Are you.. okay?   

[GraphicImpulse]

This guy is such an emotional train wreck child stuck in his own little turdbubble of eliteness.

"You're all stupid except for me!"

MPEx is garbage and will be insolvent by Q4 2013 due to competing exchanges.

This is fun to watch!

[crazy_rabbit]

If you could boil out the sheer crassness you'd have some pretty good advice, as it is- I think it falls on deaf ears because it's just so terribly unpleasant to read.

That said, the center of bitcoin is shifting away from the forums, away from the historical members and most definitely away from things like WOT and OTC. Indeed WOT and OTC are useless when the community is millions of people. Not to mention the endless scams perpetuated by OTC users with good standing.

The truth is that most of what the older-timers say is going to fade into irrelevance pretty soon. Bitcoin now has podcasts and radio shows and TV commentators and blogs and major media outlets.The core of Bitcoin will be gone from this place soon enough and will move to reddit and where the heck else people go for up to date information.

So anyway, it's good advice but so long and thanks for all the fish.

[abbyd]

Five years later, A is singing her first paid engagement (not quite an established Opera house, but certainly a start) and B is a juvenile delinquent. As far as A is concerned, obviously B never had a shot to begin with: didn't work his voice, didn't practice, didn't X Y Z. As far as B is concerned however, A just got a lucky break, possibly cause she's white. Or a girl. Or whatever else. B doesn't even know about the X Y Z.

Pure genius

Uh no, that was actually a terrible analogy. Here's one of the current top-grossing rap artists at his finest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WuagxNXDd4

And, let's just say opera is not exactly big business...
http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2012/01/orchestra-agrees-80-pay-cut-to-keep-city-opera-alive-just.html

[Stunna]

Found this extremely helpful, making a web of trust account now.

Will definitely heed your advice when making future decisions.

[wangxinxi]

very nice post. I don't have an bitcoin-otc account. Does it really matter?

anybody has any idea on increasing the number of jobs on my site http://bittask.com?

[nyusternie]

very nice post. I don't have an bitcoin-otc account. Does it really matter?

anybody has any idea on increasing the number of jobs on my site http://bittask.com?

i've only been using otc for a short time, but as far as i can tell its really only good for doing non-exchange transactions (that is bypassing mt.got, bitstamp and the like). for your business, i really don't see any advantages.

i like your website and the new name is an improvement
http://bitgigs.com/ is another popular one, but i prefer the way you list the prices right there next to the offer (very convenient).

the design is not as appealing to me, but the information is very clear.
that top categories "word mesh" or whatever its called is very bloggish and should be a simple table imho
obviously you're currently working with a limited data set, but additional filtering would be nice too

i made a note to check it out again later, after which i'll provide some more feedback

good luck!