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November 29, 2015, 01:46:22 AM
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Good Evening Poplolnman

I don't really know how they gonna manage this^^

The problem is that "bonus of 13% of each bet stake" which ruins the Competion.
I don't even know why they do that.

Would you like to end 8th with regular bets?

"to set the minimum odds like @1.3 or higher"
I'm not sure it is a good idea, there are some many games under @1.3, Barcelona, Paris...
In France no bet possible under 1.06 (I guess) only for Toto Parlay.



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November 29, 2015, 01:54:00 AM
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lol there is an new one "Over/Under 7.5 Goals, Under 7.5 Goals" => 1.01 Wink
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November 29, 2015, 03:35:52 AM
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Can I replace my friend to bet ? I mean , my friend is registered as a participant but did not play because they do not have the BTC / doge so I wanted to replace it would use the address BTC / doge registered in the competition

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November 29, 2015, 07:01:07 AM
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Can I replace my friend to bet ?

I sent you a PM in regards to this. Need some more details.

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November 29, 2015, 07:05:18 AM
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lol there is an new one "Over/Under 7.5 Goals, Under 7.5 Goals" => 1.01 Wink

yes true... but he is a massive player...
play all (or somewhat) of what he see....

he need 100 match winning so far to win 100% ....
in long term it's a suicide approach, but we can't even know if try to change this approach.
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November 29, 2015, 12:28:47 PM
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I don't think it's that simple. I tried to do that in the last competition. I did not bet always  @1.01, I varied between 1.01 and 1.3 and it just was not enough to compete with the other players. Look at sanerin for example with his parlays.

He is doing it again and already won a parlay @20 and another @15. In the last competition I remember that crazy parlay @50.
I really hope he wins again because those parlays are crazy and many people were against him, saying that he only did that because of his low bankroll and it was unfair to others wtc etc... and he is doing that again with a bigger bankroll, but no one talks about that now.


So I think there is room for all here.


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November 29, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
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for the next Cheesy (maybe) competition, can you add the possibilities (I do not how Cheesy to do) to play with more than 1 coin?
I usually take some bet in Ltc or doge or btc depends on type of odds, my funds etc etc...

Thanks for your suggestion, we will consider it.

This will require some further development on the leaderboard. We might do it if there would be sufficient demand for it.

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November 29, 2015, 08:42:38 PM
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I have 0.051 waiting since 2015-11-29 18:07:57
Transaction fee are ok?!?
I am still waiting ... Sad
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November 29, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
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I have 0.051 waiting since 2015-11-29 18:07:57
Transaction fee are ok?!?
I am still waiting ... Sad

All the payouts that we issue are estimated to confirm within 3 blocks. Sometimes, although rarely, it takes a bit longer.

If you believe there is a problem, please PM me your bet ID and I will look into it. Thanks.

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November 29, 2015, 10:30:04 PM
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Hello guys, there has been a few complains about the bet stake bonus award (see rule 2 in "Determining the winner" section).

The main reason for that rule is to encourage action and reward those that are more active. It also prevents someone from staying idle early on to "protect" an early lead which leads to a more exciting competition.
We don't think this rule alone is enough to promote a winner, as we could see in the last competitions.
We had and average ROI% of 334% (considering Top 7), and there is no way that can be achieved alone with just spamming bets @1.01.

It helps, and that was the main purpose of that rule as we already mentioned.

We will however review that rule and possibly make a a few adjustments if necessary, as we did with the bankrolls, but we can't make those changes in the middle of the competition as I'm sure you all understand.

Jcga, hope you reconsider and stay with us until the end of the competition.
Remember you can still use our "promotion" and "clean" negative ROI, by donating at least 3mBTC to the winners tipping address, and get a fresh re-start on this competition.

Good luck to all

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November 30, 2015, 05:28:54 PM
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Today I will notice a problem...

About btc transaction!
I know there are some problem network ecc ecc
me and other players,place bet using btc in this competition,
actually get a really bad issues,enourmous delay, when send/receive a payment.

I have transactions (for other reason but some funds for direct bet!) stuck in blockchain from 3 hours!
How we can compete against how can get a confirmation in a couple of minutes?

(and pay 40 satoshi / 10k satoshi?)
(I know the db wallet but I can't use only this one but timing transaction issues remain... )

Also I need a small bet to get my btc bonus for this month, but with this speed it seems impossible !

Any suggestion / way to solve?
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November 30, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
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Today I will notice a problem...

About btc transaction!
I know there are some problem network ecc ecc
me and other players,place bet using btc in this competition,
actually get a really bad issues,enourmous delay, when send/receive a payment.

I have transactions (for other reason but some funds for direct bet!) stuck in blockchain from 3 hours!
How we can compete against how can get a confirmation in a couple of minutes?

The Bitcoin network is overloaded due to an attack on the network, causing some delays in transaction confirmations.

We pay enormous fees to ensure that payouts are confirmed within 3 blocks.

If there is a problem with a particular bet, please e-mail the bet ID to support@directbet.eu and we will look into it. Thanks.

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November 30, 2015, 11:03:53 PM
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Hello guys, there has been a few complains about the bet stake bonus award (see rule 2 in "Determining the winner" section).

The main reason for that rule is to encourage action and reward those that are more active. It also prevents someone from staying idle early on to "protect" an early lead which leads to a more exciting competition.
We don't think this rule alone is enough to promote a winner, as we could see in the last competitions.
We had and average ROI% of 334% (considering Top 7), and there is no way that can be achieved alone with just spamming bets @1.01.

It helps, and that was the main purpose of that rule as we already mentioned.

We will however review that rule and possibly make a a few adjustments if necessary, as we did with the bankrolls, but we can't make those changes in the middle of the competition as I'm sure you all understand.

Jcga, hope you reconsider and stay with us until the end of the competition.
Remember you can still use our "promotion" and "clean" negative ROI, by donating at least 3mBTC to the winners tipping address, and get a fresh re-start on this competition.

Good luck to all


I think bonus at a odds bellow 1.1 could have a cap.
Something like this, the ROI% bonus for odds bellow 1.1 would be 15% or 20%, and there would be no limit for bets at odds bigger than 1.1
You ca adjust the values of course, but I think that would solve everything. Players could still have the bonus without any odds limit, and action would still be encouraged, but it would be hard to exploit the bonus like that. Players could not expect to win the competition, just spamming at low odds.

Edit: Just to make the post clear. When I say 15-20% ROI is the total added bonus among the bets made at odds below 1.1 (the bonus would still be 13% of the bet stake, but it would now have a added max for odds bellow 1.1)


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If my betting draw no lost or no win, does get points ROI ?
and my bankroll 300k dogecoin min bet 1% = 3k dogecoin what is this true?
i'm less sure about this so I bet 4k min dogecoin





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December 01, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
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Dear FrueGreads Smiley

"We don't think this rule alone is enough to promote a winner, as we could see in the last competitions.
We had and average ROI% of 334% (considering Top 7), and there is no way that can be achieved alone with just spamming bets @1.01."

Take out Sanerin with his super lucky Toto Parlay and Sureshnsnet.

I don't agree with you on that, not at all, have a look at the last competition,
From the TOP 7, 3 guys has done this (not too sure cause I can not look inside their page) but as two are doing it again.

So it very easy to be on the Top 3 or 5, easy. With those @1.01 one makes roughly 10% a day, so x30, 250% up to 382% (last competition) + a lot of "Loyalty Points".

"Jcga, hope you reconsider and stay with us until the end of the competition."
Yes i'm staying, obviously I mean you a team, a nice website and I'm faithfull you gonna have me for long time and It's cool to see the development of DB.

In Order to make everybody happy which is important,
you should do 2 competitions,
one with "Only for @1.01 bets" (which can be very fun too and good for statistics) and another one for regular tipsters Smiley

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December 01, 2015, 01:39:50 AM
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If my betting draw no lost or no win, does get points ROI ?
and my bankroll 300k dogecoin min bet 1% = 3k dogecoin what is this true?
i'm less sure about this so I bet 4k min dogecoin


what you mean with bet no draw, no lose and no win? means you do not bet?

yes you are right min bet 1% = 3k doge if you have a bankroll 300k dogecoin

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December 01, 2015, 02:09:45 AM
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If my betting draw no lost or no win, does get points ROI ?
and my bankroll 300k dogecoin min bet 1% = 3k dogecoin what is this true?
i'm less sure about this so I bet 4k min dogecoin


what you mean with bet no draw, no lose and no win? means you do not bet?

yes you are right min bet 1% = 3k doge if you have a bankroll 300k dogecoin

I mean my bet  draw, i bet on  home  draw no bet the final score 0-0
do i get points ROI from that bet ? i just wanted to know because i want to bet home  draw no bet





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December 01, 2015, 05:23:00 AM
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If my betting draw no lost or no win, does get points ROI ?
and my bankroll 300k dogecoin min bet 1% = 3k dogecoin what is this true?
i'm less sure about this so I bet 4k min dogecoin


what you mean with bet no draw, no lose and no win? means you do not bet?

yes you are right min bet 1% = 3k doge if you have a bankroll 300k dogecoin

I mean my bet  draw, i bet on  home  draw no bet the final score 0-0
do i get points ROI from that bet ?

Yes. The bonus and loyalty points are awarded for every bet regardless of the result.

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December 01, 2015, 06:26:59 AM
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Dear FrueGreads Smiley

"We don't think this rule alone is enough to promote a winner, as we could see in the last competitions.
We had and average ROI% of 334% (considering Top 7), and there is no way that can be achieved alone with just spamming bets @1.01."

Take out Sanerin with his super lucky Toto Parlay and Sureshnsnet.

I don't agree with you on that, not at all, have a look at the last competition,
From the TOP 7, 3 guys has done this (not too sure cause I can not look inside their page) but as two are doing it again.

So it very easy to be on the Top 3 or 5, easy. With those @1.01 one makes roughly 10% a day, so x30, 250% up to 382% (last competition) + a lot of "Loyalty Points".

"Jcga, hope you reconsider and stay with us until the end of the competition."
Yes i'm staying, obviously I mean you a team, a nice website and I'm faithfull you gonna have me for long time and It's cool to see the development of DB.

In Order to make everybody happy which is important,
you should do 2 competitions,
one with "Only for @1.01 bets" (which can be very fun too and good for statistics) and another one for regular tipsters Smiley



HI Jcga, my 2 cents Cheesy .

Nobody (nor a bookmaker) can avoid that anyone place a 1.01 bet.
It doesn't mean "sure bet". Look the last bet Smiley of some users.

Ok it seems some user play "massive" bet, but this is the game Smiley .
"Get best ROI".

I think that this is not profitable in the long terms, because other players can do the same, + add other bet.

Perhaps only 13% bonus in this case could help 1.01 better, for the simple fact that every bet as a little and constantly "bonus" and more bets = more "bonus".
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December 01, 2015, 10:14:25 PM
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"Jcga, hope you reconsider and stay with us until the end of the competition."
Yes i'm staying, obviously I mean you a team, a nice website and I'm faithfull you gonna have me for long time and It's cool to see the development of DB.


Glad to hear that. As for the rest, like I said we can't change anything now, but we will discuss it for the next one, as we did for the bankroll, from the second to the third competition.

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