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December 24, 2015, 11:56:10 PM
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Hello everyone! Hope you are enjoying this IV Competition!

Just came here to wish a Merry Christmas to all!!!


Merry Christmas and thanks to you and DirectBet for hosting this great competition!

I need a clarification about the prizes:
If I finish this competition between the first 7 places and of course I qualify for them by placing at least 70 bets,will I get the according prize for the place I took+ the participation prize? Or just the prize for the respective place?

You will also get the participation prize. We decided to offer a participation prize this time, and not a consolation prize, so everyone gets that prize as long as they make the minimum bet requirement.

Also please remember that you will only get one participation prize even if you use the multi entry feature, but you can add up 3 Top7 prizes, if you place on Top7 with 3 accounts.

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December 26, 2015, 11:57:52 AM
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Hello everyone, hope you had a great Christmas.
Just wanted to remember that we need at least 50 active players to get full prizes.
We still have 23 players that have not placed any bets, you need at least 70 bets to be considered an active player and be eligible for prizes!

We have plenty of time, since competition only ends at February 1st 00h, UTC, but please keep that in mind!

Why not take advantage of the Premier League Boxing day!

Good luck to your bets, and Happy Holidays to all!

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December 26, 2015, 12:48:14 PM
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Hello everyone, hope you had a great Christmas.
Just wanted to remember that we need at least 50 active players to get full prizes.
We still have 23 players that have not placed any bets, you need at least 70 bets to be considered an active player and be eligible for prizes!

We have plenty of time, since competition only ends at February 1st 00h, UTC, but please keep that in mind!

Why not take advantage of the Premier League Boxing day!

Good luck to your bets, and Happy Holidays to all!

Yes I have seen many players have not been active in the competition, this may be due to the Christmas holidays and some countries have not started a league match. I'm sure they just want to bet on the popular leagues such as EPL, Serie A and others

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December 26, 2015, 10:16:16 PM
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Hello everyone, hope you had a great Christmas.
Just wanted to remember that we need at least 50 active players to get full prizes.
We still have 23 players that have not placed any bets, you need at least 70 bets to be considered an active player and be eligible for prizes!

We have plenty of time, since competition only ends at February 1st 00h, UTC, but please keep that in mind!

Why not take advantage of the Premier League Boxing day!

Good luck to your bets, and Happy Holidays to all!

Yes I have seen many players have not been active in the competition, this may be due to the Christmas holidays and some countries have not started a league match. I'm sure they just want to bet on the popular leagues such as EPL, Serie A and others

You are probably right. And that's the reasons why this competition will last a little more than a month.
Note that this one only ends at the end of January, and it already started at 19th December, so there is no excuse not fulfill the requirements for the full prizes!!

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December 26, 2015, 10:54:20 PM
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Hello everyone, hope you had a great Christmas.
Just wanted to remember that we need at least 50 active players to get full prizes.
We still have 23 players that have not placed any bets, you need at least 70 bets to be considered an active player and be eligible for prizes!

We have plenty of time, since competition only ends at February 1st 00h, UTC, but please keep that in mind!

Why not take advantage of the Premier League Boxing day!

Good luck to your bets, and Happy Holidays to all!

Yes I have seen many players have not been active in the competition, this may be due to the Christmas holidays and some countries have not started a league match. I'm sure they just want to bet on the popular leagues such as EPL, Serie A and others

You are probably right. And that's the reasons why this competition will last a little more than a month.
Note that this one only ends at the end of January, and it already started at 19th December, so there is no excuse not fulfill the requirements for the full prizes!!

Oh, now I understand the reason this competition is run for 1 month or more previously I wondered.
I was also less active a few weeks, I will return to play after getting the payment of a signature campaign  Smiley

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December 27, 2015, 04:37:07 PM
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I want to ask about the removal or restart bankroll is still valid in this competition 
I mean like the last competition, a player may remove bankroll if you lose by paying with BTC

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Until what date can we restart are ROI % ?


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December 27, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
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I want to ask about the removal or restart bankroll is still valid in this competition 
I mean like the last competition, a player may remove bankroll if you lose by paying with BTC

Until what date can we restart are ROI % ?

The offer is still available and since this competition is longer, the time to do that will last longer as well.
Meaning you can reset your ROI% 1 weak after registration closes, so until 8th January.

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December 28, 2015, 05:50:26 PM
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I want to ask about the removal or restart bankroll is still valid in this competition 
I mean like the last competition, a player may remove bankroll if you lose by paying with BTC

Until what date can we restart are ROI % ?

The offer is still available and since this competition is longer, the time to do that will last longer as well.
Meaning you can reset your ROI% 1 weak after registration closes, so until 8th January.

Ok thank you FrueGreads we will wait

please add my new bitcoin address at the competition:
Username: Republikcoin.com
Bitcoin Address: 1AAYpzWL8aNiMHzWAPzFgc1sVzDSEe7XAR
Bankroll: 100 mBTC

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December 28, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
 #190

I want to ask about the removal or restart bankroll is still valid in this competition 
I mean like the last competition, a player may remove bankroll if you lose by paying with BTC

Until what date can we restart are ROI % ?

The offer is still available and since this competition is longer, the time to do that will last longer as well.
Meaning you can reset your ROI% 1 weak after registration closes, so until 8th January.

Ok thank you FrueGreads we will wait

please add my new bitcoin address at the competition:
Username: Republikcoin.com
Bitcoin Address: 1AAYpzWL8aNiMHzWAPzFgc1sVzDSEe7XAR
Bankroll: 100 mBTC

Hi Republikcoin.com,

Your second entry was added.

Good Luck !

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December 28, 2015, 06:49:06 PM
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Hi Republikcoin.com,

Your second entry was added.

Good Luck !


Ok thanks you DirectBet  I've started betting  Cheesy  My bet

want to ask about this:
A bonus of 13% of each bet stake will be added to the leaderboard, no matter if you win or lose the bet (for the purpose of determining the winner only and not in the form of real money).

I bet a few weeks ago but I have not posted it to the leaderboard, so if I post now Whether I will get a 13% bonus ROI? (Bet last week)

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Hi Republikcoin.com,

Your second entry was added.

Good Luck !


Ok thanks you DirectBet  I've started betting  Cheesy  My bet

want to ask about this:
A bonus of 13% of each bet stake will be added to the leaderboard, no matter if you win or lose the bet (for the purpose of determining the winner only and not in the form of real money).

I bet a few weeks ago but I have not posted it to the leaderboard, so if I post now Whether I will get a 13% bonus ROI? (Bet last week)


If the bet is valid, then your entry will be automatically to the leaderboard. Or at least should be(mine at least are)

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December 28, 2015, 11:20:00 PM
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Hi Republikcoin.com,

Your second entry was added.

Good Luck !


Ok thanks you DirectBet  I've started betting  Cheesy  My bet

want to ask about this:
A bonus of 13% of each bet stake will be added to the leaderboard, no matter if you win or lose the bet (for the purpose of determining the winner only and not in the form of real money).

I bet a few weeks ago but I have not posted it to the leaderboard, so if I post now Whether I will get a 13% bonus ROI? (Bet last week)



As Omikifuse said they will be accepted automatically by the leaderboard script if they are valid, but as it has already been explained we will of course manually examine your bets and see there was any attempt to gain an unfair advantage. If so, some bets, or all the bets could be removed, and only bets made after the registration will count. If that happens we will inform you, otherwise everything will stay as it is.

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December 30, 2015, 11:40:41 AM
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Hurry up guys, registration is almost over, so if you want to add more addresses this is the time to do it.
If you are still considering register this is the right time to do it as well.

Registration ends at January 1st 00h, UTC,
Here is the link for the thread where you should register:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1248467.0

Good luck!

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December 30, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
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I have already registered please add me on the list now or before the match Premier and Spanish  League begins
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December 30, 2015, 12:24:16 PM
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I have already registered please add me on the list now or before the match Premier and Spanish  League begins
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December 31, 2015, 12:47:27 AM
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Breaking of Rules: 4 and 6

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4. For the purpose of this competition the max bet stake is capped 5% of your current bankroll.
Every bet above that value will be capped to 5%.

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6. You can not have "duplicate" bets even if they are made at different odds. If you do so, we will only count the first one.

And even if you count only 1st bet, for example on Phil Taylor v Jelle Klaasen he have 5 bets and 1st in for 150 mBTC which is a way way over 5% of 250.

With 16 bets counted and 5% cap and odds ~2 and ~50% lost bets, he cannot have a 53.95%. I'm not sure is he even break-even. The boost is by your 13% bonus, multiple bets and bets >50% bankroll.

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Also about 13% boost: there should be minimum odd.
Because I can easily abuse the system/rules and create a 1nd account which will win the competition for sure, but will have a real ROI of ~0 or even -Few%.

How: Betting straight 5% every time on 1.01-1.03. On every 20 bets there will a whole turnover on a bank and bonus of 13% over the whole competition bankroll. While the real result will be (if there is no lose) only +1-2% (20x5%x1.01-1.03).
For 300 bets there will be a fake ROI of over 390% (30 turnovers x 13%) without size adjustment and over 1100% with size adjustments every 20 bets!

But I still think the point here is not to abuse it for some ~430$ (1BTC). Right? Because nobody can beat 1000% ROI...


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December 31, 2015, 02:20:31 AM
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Please check User: txbtc

Breaking of Rules: 4 and 6

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4. For the purpose of this competition the max bet stake is capped 5% of your current bankroll.
Every bet above that value will be capped to 5%.

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6. You can not have "duplicate" bets even if they are made at different odds. If you do so, we will only count the first one.

1) We will examine this, and remove any bets if necessary.

And even if you count only 1st bet, for example on Phil Taylor v Jelle Klaasen he have 5 bets and 1st in for 150 mBTC which is a way way over 5% of 250.

2) There is no problem in "breaking" this rule (it's more a warning, since there is nothing you can do to break it, because everything is treated automatically by our script). Like it says on the rule, the stake is caped at 5% of max bankroll, meaning that he will be paid normally for hist bet, but for the competition the script will only consider those max 5% (so, and this is only for the competition, he will win based on the 5% or lose only 5%, if he goes over that cap. This is really not a problem, the script does everything automatically. You can go 1000% on every bet if you like, for the competition they will all be counted as 5%, so it's up to you.)

With 16 bets counted and 5% cap and odds ~2 and ~50% lost bets, he cannot have a 53.95%. I'm not sure is he even break-even. The boost is by your 13% bonus, multiple bets and bets >50% bankroll.

==

Also about 13% boost: there should be minimum odd.
Because I can easily abuse the system/rules and create a 1nd account which will win the competition for sure, but will have a real ROI of ~0 or even -Few%.

How: Betting straight 5% every time on 1.01-1.03. On every 20 bets there will a whole turnover on a bank and bonus of 13% over the whole competition bankroll. While the real result will be (if there is no lose) only +1-2% (20x5%x1.01-1.03).
For 300 bets there will be a fake ROI of over 390% (30 turnovers x 13%) without size adjustment and over 1100% with size adjustments every 20 bets!

But I still think the point here is not to abuse it for some ~430$ (1BTC). Right? Because nobody can beat 1000% ROI...

3) Yes this bonus is not to be abused, and we already took some measures regarding this issue. We are evaluating this for the next competition to see if we need to tweak it any further.
We have a cap of 300 bets, meaning that if someone only makes bets of 5% @1.01 and wins all of them (which is unlikely, will add a ROI of 195% (300 * 0.65%), remember that is 13% of the 5% max stake. Yes this value with stake adjustment will be a little bigger, I keept the math simple in that example, but still is not those 390% or 1000% bonus ROI%. Also we do have a limit of 300 bets which means that he will fail to improve his ROI any further which makes that strategy far from being a winning one.
Let's use acckill example since he is on top for now. He has 133% with 112 bets, with the same math he would only have 72.8% ROI, if he made 112 bets of 5% @1.01, meaning that optimal play will still win this competition.)


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December 31, 2015, 03:13:28 AM
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I will be honest regarding the 13% bonus. I tried to use that in second competition and it did not help me much.
First I was betting in a 1.01 - 1.08 range and although my ROI was increasing, I was way to far away from the paying spots, the distance was being kept, so that alone would get me no where.
Second it's quite easy to talk, but I did not won every single bet at those odds, so it really did not paid off. It's a "safe" method if you do not want to risk to much on those 70 bets and collect the participation prize, or consolation prize (on that case), but is not enough to win a competition.

Either that, or I'm very unlucky lol
Not saying it's perfect, I think it could be made better, but I don't it should be given all that credit. If you bet well, like Joca did on the last competition you will still win...

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December 31, 2015, 03:37:17 AM
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I will be honest regarding the 13% bonus. I tried to use that in second competition and it did not help me much.
First I was betting in a 1.01 - 1.08 range and although my ROI was increasing, I was way to far away from the paying spots, the distance was being kept, so that alone would get me no where.
Second it's quite easy to talk, but I did not won every single bet at those odds, so it really did not paid off. It's a "safe" method if you do not want to risk to much on those 70 bets and collect the participation prize, or consolation prize (on that case), but is not enough to win a competition.

Either that, or I'm very unlucky lol
Not saying it's perfect, I think it could be made better, but I don't it should be given all that credit. If you bet well, like Joca did on the last competition you will still win...

Bitbollo has been using strategy like thats alot and it seems that strategy is working for him. If you check his betslip mostly he bets on live games where the odds is already low however it seems he got a great luck by winning most of them and managed to use that 13 % bonus

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