adaseb
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I started with 200k satoshi and after 5 hours, I made 0.012 with automated betting. My settings are working out until power interruption in my home comes in. When the power's back on after 10 minutes, I checked my Bitsler account and lost everything. I could have withdrawn the profit in the first place. I don't know how the automated betting works with Bitsler but maybe it is server side instead of client side. So if you click on autobet and your connection suddently drops the server still keeps on betting because he thinks you are still online. I most likely pings every few seconds or so but that might of been too late or it doesn't stop the betting at all until you click "stop". If you think you were cheated just verify your provably fair hashed seeds and make sure they match up, most likely you just ran into bad luck and lost. Just now I tried in my account. It will stop as soon as your browser closes. Because just now I started my auto betting with a smaller amount and closed it manually and immediately opened and see that my betting was stopped. But not sure how he has lost his money when his power gone and bower was closed? There's a time when our browser becomes unresponsive or our connection becomes very slow. Hence, our browser will fail to show the actual result from our automated betting. I guess that's what happened to @cheezcarls. He stated that he already run his automated betting for about 5 hours before the power in his house went down. Anything can happen during that time period. If he provide us the screenshot of his bet history then we will know the truth. Well only Baryom can determined and say what is the true story that happened. Just ask some quiestion can you check you withdrawal log? Is seems that there's some people have an access in your account and withdraw all you money in bitsler. In my phone after i power off it auto bet succesfully would stop. I'm quite sure that once you close your browser your auto betting will stop in both mobile phone as well as in desktop version. That particular incident only admin can verify his bets and can suggest how he/she lost all his money. If someone hacked his account then no need to just withdraw money but they can have played some games and lost money. So only admin the right person to answer this particular issue. Hello, Yes, if you close your browser, your bets will stop. I just made tests on mobile and laptop. Cheers, There is a difference between closing your browser and suddently killing your internet connection. When you close your browser, your browser sends commands to kill any connections and that automatically closes the betting due to their coding. When you suddenly get an internet outage, your browser can't send any commands to close any connections. So best way to test this would be to start the bets, and kill your internet connection and see when they stop. Most likely it will make a few more rolls before permantely stopping the autobet bot.
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NLNico
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May 18, 2017, 09:05:18 AM |
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Auto-betting on practically all sites, including Bitsler, works on clientside. I just checked the JS files and the "next bet" is really just executed from the browser. So if you don't have power/internet anymore, 0 bets will be made.
cheezcarls probably already lost his balance before the power interruption :X (perhaps had it open in different tab etc?) "My bets" might show history with time?
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klf
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May 18, 2017, 09:20:50 AM |
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I started with 200k satoshi and after 5 hours, I made 0.012 with automated betting. My settings are working out until power interruption in my home comes in. When the power's back on after 10 minutes, I checked my Bitsler account and lost everything. I could have withdrawn the profit in the first place. I don't know how the automated betting works with Bitsler but maybe it is server side instead of client side. So if you click on autobet and your connection suddently drops the server still keeps on betting because he thinks you are still online. I most likely pings every few seconds or so but that might of been too late or it doesn't stop the betting at all until you click "stop". If you think you were cheated just verify your provably fair hashed seeds and make sure they match up, most likely you just ran into bad luck and lost. Just now I tried in my account. It will stop as soon as your browser closes. Because just now I started my auto betting with a smaller amount and closed it manually and immediately opened and see that my betting was stopped. But not sure how he has lost his money when his power gone and bower was closed? There's a time when our browser becomes unresponsive or our connection becomes very slow. Hence, our browser will fail to show the actual result from our automated betting. I guess that's what happened to @cheezcarls. He stated that he already run his automated betting for about 5 hours before the power in his house went down. Anything can happen during that time period. If he provide us the screenshot of his bet history then we will know the truth. Well only Baryom can determined and say what is the true story that happened. Just ask some quiestion can you check you withdrawal log? Is seems that there's some people have an access in your account and withdraw all you money in bitsler. In my phone after i power off it auto bet succesfully would stop. I'm quite sure that once you close your browser your auto betting will stop in both mobile phone as well as in desktop version. That particular incident only admin can verify his bets and can suggest how he/she lost all his money. If someone hacked his account then no need to just withdraw money but they can have played some games and lost money. So only admin the right person to answer this particular issue. Hello, Yes, if you close your browser, your bets will stop. I just made tests on mobile and laptop. Cheers, There is a difference between closing your browser and suddently killing your internet connection. When you close your browser, your browser sends commands to kill any connections and that automatically closes the betting due to their coding. When you suddenly get an internet outage, your browser can't send any commands to close any connections. So best way to test this would be to start the bets, and kill your internet connection and see when they stop. Most likely it will make a few more rolls before permantely stopping the autobet bot. Your point is good to verify, so I just did a small test on my account. I run auto bet and then unplug my internet connection, and betting stopped almost instantly, but that stop pilot mode was still showing on the screen. There were no additional bets done after I unplug my internet connection.
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NeuroticFish
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May 18, 2017, 10:08:46 AM |
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Hm. Is this normal? I am fooling around with automated betting and I just noticed this:
Won 1139, Lost 1158 Profit -0.00000057 Luck 100.17%
Shouldn't luck be under 100% in this case?
Maybe I don't know how to read the numbers, but it looked strange.
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NLNico
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May 18, 2017, 10:18:22 AM |
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Hm. Is this normal? I am fooling around with automated betting and I just noticed this:
Won 1139, Lost 1158 Profit -0.00000057 Luck 100.17%
Shouldn't luck be under 100% in this case?
Maybe I don't know how to read the numbers, but it looked strange.
1139 + 1158 = 2297 bets If you bet on 2x odds, it's 49.5% chance to win: 2297 * 0.495 = 1137 bets expected to win So your "luck": 1139 / 1137 * 100% = 100.175901495 % So you won more than expected based on house edge (= positive luck stat), but didn't have enough luck to get a positive edge yourself (= still more losses than wins.)
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NeuroticFish
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May 18, 2017, 10:24:51 AM |
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Hm. Is this normal? I am fooling around with automated betting and I just noticed this:
Won 1139, Lost 1158 Profit -0.00000057 Luck 100.17%
Shouldn't luck be under 100% in this case?
Maybe I don't know how to read the numbers, but it looked strange.
1139 + 1158 = 2297 bets If you bet on 2x odds, it's 49.5% chance to win: 2297 * 0.495 = 1137 bets expected to win So your "luck": 1139 / 1137 * 100% = 100.175901495 % So you won more than expected based on house edge (= positive luck stat), but didn't have enough luck to get a positive edge yourself (= still more losses than wins.) Interesting, thank you very much. I've learned something new today
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adaseb
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May 18, 2017, 10:29:13 AM |
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Hm. Is this normal? I am fooling around with automated betting and I just noticed this:
Won 1139, Lost 1158 Profit -0.00000057 Luck 100.17%
Shouldn't luck be under 100% in this case?
Maybe I don't know how to read the numbers, but it looked strange.
1139 + 1158 = 2297 bets If you bet on 2x odds, it's 49.5% chance to win: 2297 * 0.495 = 1137 bets expected to win So your "luck": 1139 / 1137 * 100% = 100.175901495 % So you won more than expected based on house edge (= positive luck stat), but didn't have enough luck to get a positive edge yourself (= still more losses than wins.) This is pretty much proof that the more bets you take the higher chance you have of losing money. Because even though you should of won a little you ended up losing a little purely on the house edge. For some the house edge seems small but it quickly adds up.
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Humanxlemming
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May 18, 2017, 11:35:15 AM |
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Hm. Is this normal? I am fooling around with automated betting and I just noticed this:
Won 1139, Lost 1158 Profit -0.00000057 Luck 100.17%
Shouldn't luck be under 100% in this case?
Maybe I don't know how to read the numbers, but it looked strange.
1139 + 1158 = 2297 bets If you bet on 2x odds, it's 49.5% chance to win: 2297 * 0.495 = 1137 bets expected to win So your "luck": 1139 / 1137 * 100% = 100.175901495 % So you won more than expected based on house edge (= positive luck stat), but didn't have enough luck to get a positive edge yourself (= still more losses than wins.) This is pretty much proof that the more bets you take the higher chance you have of losing money. Because even though you should of won a little you ended up losing a little purely on the house edge. For some the house edge seems small but it quickly adds up. Pretty more interesting after you calculated NeuroticFish their automated bets. Me too still confusing how does my automated bet came up to 100%+ or more but in profit it's negative. Anyways i know now how to calculate what's the meaning of the luck hehehe
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NeuroticFish
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May 18, 2017, 12:32:42 PM |
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Pretty more interesting after you calculated NeuroticFish their automated bets. Me too still confusing how does my automated bet came up to 100%+ or more but in profit it's negative. Anyways i know now how to calculate what's the meaning of the luck hehehe
I felt bad for not knowing something so simple, but you made me feel better: I guess that we all learned something. For example I somehow thought that the house edge will be calculated together with the losing bets on the losing side. But yeah, it all makes sense if you know how to read those numbers.
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minhlong357200
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May 18, 2017, 12:50:03 PM |
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whoever has troubles claiming faucet after the update try to delete cookies and session info of bitsler.com,then re-login it worked for me,also try and remove Ublock origin,looks like its script doesn't go with some captcha widgets
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veleten
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May 18, 2017, 02:52:56 PM Last edit: May 18, 2017, 03:42:44 PM by veleten |
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whoever has troubles claiming faucet after the update try to delete cookies and session info of bitsler.com,then re-login it worked for me,also try and remove Ublock origin,looks like its script doesn't go with some captcha widgets
try to refresh the browser,if it doesn't help-delete all the data associated with the site (excluding the password ofc ) I have ublock origin installed and it works fine with all the captchas:Bitslers captcha was a bit laggy at first,now after a few updates it is much faster and more responsive could it be your connection that blocks captcha?maybe a bad quality proxy or vpn
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Harlot
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May 18, 2017, 03:11:39 PM |
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whoever has troubles claiming faucet after the update try to delete cookies and session info of bitsler.com,then re-login it worked for me,also try and remove Ublock origin,looks like its script doesn't go with some captcha widgets
try to refresh the browser,if it doesn't help-delete all the data associated with the site (exluding the password ofc ) I have ublock origin installed and it works fine with all the captchas:Bitslers captcha was a bit laggy at first,now after a few updates it is much faster and more responsive could it be your connection that blocks captcha?maybe a bad quality proxy or vpn Yup I agree with you, within the recent updates the faucet claiming became faster, and what I mean faster is through the confirmation it is taking. Because when they recently changed the way how faucet claiming works it was slow it took me around 5-8 seconds before it will be credited to my account.
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MinerHQ
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May 20, 2017, 01:22:19 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
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Bitinity
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May 20, 2017, 03:21:50 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
Indeed it takes longer time for the 9th milestone but I think it is not only because of the attack, I guess the attack does not really affect players to bet. Other reasons could be the recent btc price that makes people thinks twice to gamble. Also Bitsler has done maintenance several times after the 8th, of course it is also reducing the number of bets. But it has reached more than half to the 9th, still big number of bets imho.
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klf
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May 20, 2017, 05:02:47 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
Indeed it takes longer time for the 9th milestone but I think it is not only because of the attack, I guess the attack does not really affect players to bet. Other reasons could be the recent btc price that makes people thinks twice to gamble. Also Bitsler has done maintenance several times after the 8th, of course it is also reducing the number of bets. But it has reached more than half to the 9th, still big number of bets imho. I too think because of bitcoin's price went up so high quite fast so many people may think many times to go for gambling. But the good thing with bitsler is they also allow another two altcoins to gamble like with ETH and Doge coins. Actually, the site was not attacked but some users last their user id and passwords by providing details to the wrong site.
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myhung76393
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May 20, 2017, 05:11:36 AM |
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Their site is rather a nice place and with the sudden surge of people visiting the site 10x there must be some interest to having so many all the sudden want to join and play there. Maybe a free giveaway on an hourly basis with happy hour is the reason why so many stick around in chat and not just log off of playing for 10 minutes like most sites activity are about.
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Herbert2020
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May 20, 2017, 06:50:40 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
we are currently at 9.5 billionth bet, i think this time it actually went up from 8 billion to 9 billion much faster that you missed the mark also don't forget that recently bitsler had some trouble with DDoS and also there was a maintenance, these may not be that long but it is time that people couldn't make any bets.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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moooonu
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May 20, 2017, 07:35:53 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
we are currently at 9.5 billionth bet, i think this time it actually went up from 8 billion to 9 billion much faster that you missed the mark also don't forget that recently bitsler had some trouble with DDoS and also there was a maintenance, these may not be that long but it is time that people couldn't make any bets. Any ETA on bitsler again going online? I have heard that bitsler is going cloudfare to prevent themselves from DDOS attacks.
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Baryom
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May 20, 2017, 07:55:25 AM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
we are currently at 9.5 billionth bet, i think this time it actually went up from 8 billion to 9 billion much faster that you missed the mark also don't forget that recently bitsler had some trouble with DDoS and also there was a maintenance, these may not be that long but it is time that people couldn't make any bets. Any ETA on bitsler again going online? I have heard that bitsler is going cloudfare to prevent themselves from DDOS attacks. Hello, We are not down. You cannot login to bitsler? Cheers,
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Harlot
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May 20, 2017, 02:37:03 PM |
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It looks like this site has reached 8 billion bets quite fast and from 8 billion to reach 9th one taking a lot of time. This is just my observation and do you guys also feeling same?
It looks like the attack on the site has reduced the bets for some time.
we are currently at 9.5 billionth bet, i think this time it actually went up from 8 billion to 9 billion much faster that you missed the mark also don't forget that recently bitsler had some trouble with DDoS and also there was a maintenance, these may not be that long but it is time that people couldn't make any bets. Any ETA on bitsler again going online? I have heard that bitsler is going cloudfare to prevent themselves from DDOS attacks. The maintenance of the site is always updated in this thread. Both before the maintenance happens and after the maintenance is done. And to gladly say to you that Bitsler's maintenance are always quick and the sole purpose of it is improving the website as a whole. Herbert2020 I think it will reach 10 billionth bet before next week ends as of right now it has 9.564 bets and still is counting.
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