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December 06, 2015, 11:54:43 AM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. You say it is about the Bitcoin?
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I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.
I wold suggest that you must give more detailed data about such important thing. Even if you will wanted some nuts everyone will thought twice before giving those. Not because of their cost but because don't see valid reason and argumentation to give those. And not when it is talked about money. You tell that have a long experience with bitcoin. Since its first day. And you are entered in its forum only two weeks ago. How is possible this? A first bitcoiner who join its forum after 6 years. Then at your third post in its forum you ask money. Another question-mark in the mind of everyone: without telling any word about bitcoin and giving any kind of data except the above three-four rows, ask money using the name of bitcoin? If I would be a normal person, my thoughts about you (and this doesn't mean that can be true; would be only mine) would be that you are an impostor. Someone which make as its third post a post with four-five rows in which request to have money for something "big" which can be read in other tens of posts make before its enter in bitcointalk, cannot have other name. But I am not normal. I am a strange person. So I don't think that you are an impostor. As a strange person I would advice you that, to ask money, needed more than your rows. Much, much more. Give a good detailed project and a very good plan about what you want to achieve and in which way (exactly and step by step) think to realize that. Then put all here in this thread or in a new one and then try to ask money. After reading those things all the strange people (because the normal ones wouldn't believe again you having this kind of experience before) can read what you have invented and, if will like it, maybe will give you the needed money. Or that they can. I understand you completely and no offense taken. As I said, I've been in and out. I'm a very private person in general. I don't typically come to forums and voice my opinions, and this is the only forum I'm even part of. I'm not asking for money. I'm gauging interest in this and seeing what peoples' opinions are. As for a detailed plan, this is part of the process for building it. Everything has to start somewhere. In your poll you ask if you would have support for that you want to do and in your post you tell to not have money to do alone that you want to do. As I wrote in my previous post EVERY normal people would understand this as a request for money. Only the strange people like me don't. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) As such I have no doubts in your good intentions. But you most know (if you really don't know this) that what you want to do, is the most normal and common thing that needed to do regarding bitcoin. Known by everyone which is involved with it even within few days. And learn from the beginners as a first thing about it. So nothing special or new in your words or in your idea for which you want support (and according to normal people even money). If I would borrow the words of a very big writer I would tell: nothing new under our "bitcoin" sky. Anyhow to many speaks and only few acts. The number of those who achieve that they want to realize with their projects is irrelevant. Maybe you are irrelevant. So go ahead, show to everyone that you are such kind of people and forget my posts. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 06, 2015, 12:15:38 PM |
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Today i have withdrawn around 55$ in my bank to show my father and family that bitcoin is like money. I am waiting my father to come and see my bank account. He have sayed he will give me equal amount of money if i can show him. Yes in this way i am also encouraging my family and other people to adopt bitcoin.
That's pretty cool of him. I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.
I wold suggest that you must give more detailed data about such important thing. Even if you will wanted some nuts everyone will thought twice before giving those. Not because of their cost but because don't see valid reason and argumentation to give those. And not when it is talked about money. You tell that have a long experience with bitcoin. Since its first day. And you are entered in its forum only two weeks ago. How is possible this? A first bitcoiner who join its forum after 6 years. Then at your third post in its forum you ask money. Another question-mark in the mind of everyone: without telling any word about bitcoin and giving any kind of data except the above three-four rows, ask money using the name of bitcoin? If I would be a normal person, my thoughts about you (and this doesn't mean that can be true; would be only mine) would be that you are an impostor. Someone which make as its third post a post with four-five rows in which request to have money for something "big" which can be read in other tens of posts make before its enter in bitcointalk, cannot have other name. But I am not normal. I am a strange person. So I don't think that you are an impostor. As a strange person I would advice you that, to ask money, needed more than your rows. Much, much more. Give a good detailed project and a very good plan about what you want to achieve and in which way (exactly and step by step) think to realize that. Then put all here in this thread or in a new one and then try to ask money. After reading those things all the strange people (because the normal ones wouldn't believe again you having this kind of experience before) can read what you have invented and, if will like it, maybe will give you the needed money. Or that they can. I understand you completely and no offense taken. As I said, I've been in and out. I'm a very private person in general. I don't typically come to forums and voice my opinions, and this is the only forum I'm even part of. I'm not asking for money. I'm gauging interest in this and seeing what peoples' opinions are. As for a detailed plan, this is part of the process for building it. Everything has to start somewhere. In your poll you ask if you would have support for that you want to do and in your post you tell to not have money to do alone that you want to do. As I wrote in my previous post EVERY normal people would understand this as a request for money. Only the strange people like me don't. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) As such I have no doubts in your good intentions. But you most know (if you really don't know this) that what you want to do, is the most normal and common thing that needed to do regarding bitcoin. Known by everyone which is involved with it even within few days. And learn from the beginners as a first thing about it. So nothing special or new in your words or in your idea for which you want support (and according to normal people even money). If I would borrow the words of a very big writer I would tell: nothing new under our "bitcoin" sky. Anyhow to many speaks and only few acts. The number of those who achieve that they want to realize with their projects is irrelevant. Maybe you are irrelevant. So go ahead, show to everyone that you are such kind of people and forget my posts. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I wouldn't call you strange for your thinking or opinions. From my point of view, I think I'm mostly talking to people like you here. The fact that it is such a normal concept and talked about constantly only shows the further need for it. I'm not good at talking in general. You can look at that from many different angles. Most of my life I have had to accomplish everything alone, but ruminating on this for so long and seeing how big of an issue it is has made me realize that I need to ask for help to be able to be successful. I won't forget your posts either. Feel free to post more if you wish. You state valid points and give me insight. Thank you.
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December 06, 2015, 01:27:26 PM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. Bitcoin is a currency western union is a service to transfer money worldwide. Those are two different things. I believe just talking about bitcoin to the people around you helps a lot already, you don't need millions to let people know about it.
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December 06, 2015, 01:35:44 PM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. Bitcoin is a currency western union is a service to transfer money worldwide. Those are two different things. I believe just talking about bitcoin to the people around you helps a lot already, you don't need millions to let people know about it. not only talking about bitcoin to the people but i think you have to knowledge the shopkeepers about the benefit of using bitcoins and how their business can grow if they start accepting bitcoins. for that first we have to ask whether they accept bitcoin as their payment option.like this shopkeeper will come to know about bitcoin and its benefits.
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December 06, 2015, 01:43:59 PM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. Bitcoin is a currency western union is a service to transfer money worldwide. Those are two different things. I believe just talking about bitcoin to the people around you helps a lot already, you don't need millions to let people know about it. not only talking about bitcoin to the people but i think you have to knowledge the shopkeepers about the benefit of using bitcoins and how their business can grow if they start accepting bitcoins. for that first we have to ask whether they accept bitcoin as their payment option.like this shopkeeper will come to know about bitcoin and its benefits. Is it really important for bitcoin to be available in physical shops? Why not a digital currency for the digital world. Rather than pushing it into real world, let bitcoin thrive in the digital world. I.e used for digital transactions
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December 06, 2015, 01:52:43 PM |
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Well I don't think the shopkeepers around me are ready to start accepting bitcoins or any other payment method for that matter right now because for the simple fact they prefer taking cash but I am encouraging the people I know, be it my friends, family, colleagues to start buying Bitcoin and the recent surge in the price really helped to get their attention. And I know it's probably not a good idea to portray Bitcoin to them just as an investment but this way atleast I am able to get them interested and then I can tell them the other advantages of it.
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December 06, 2015, 01:58:16 PM |
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For merchant, it is easy. Only a tablet is required for using the POS- Bitpay, Coinbase etc. Bitpay allows merchants to convert to fiat in a instance, no risk for volatility to affect the earnings. However, it isn't easy to do and there is not a huge adoption rate ATM. The general public are skeptical of Bitcoin and would avoid using it since it is too volatile. Merchants would be more reluctant to accept it after Bitpay started to charge.
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December 06, 2015, 02:01:24 PM |
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Well, I think first you should educate people about bitcoin and its benefits. To start some kind of advertising campaign about bitcoin before you educate people about it, introduce well in public, it's waste of time and energy in my opinion. Also, we will need more support from bitcoin users and merchants than we have now in order to have successful bitcoin campaign. It's just my opinion.
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December 06, 2015, 02:24:22 PM |
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just imagine if there's exist online shop site that giving 70% discount for user who pay with bitcoin , how many woman will going to adopt bitcoin?
70% discount ! How could that be possible? The site and merchants need to make some profits! But I know you could try purse.io to shop on Amazon with discounts paying in Bitcoin!
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December 06, 2015, 02:24:29 PM |
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just imagine if there's exist online shop site that giving 70% discount for user who pay with bitcoin , how many woman will going to adopt bitcoin?
Probably a lot. But I think we should start by letting them get to know bitcoin first and what exactly the concept of it is. It starts by talking and if they're interested they will seek more information.
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December 06, 2015, 02:25:45 PM |
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It's important to get more and more people to start hoarding so that price rises and we get profits.
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December 06, 2015, 02:32:39 PM |
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Bitcoin couldn't function on the scale that western union does, at some point, the business would get fucked over by the large swings in price.
when bitcoin is getting accepted and wall street level traders step into it, then there won't be much volatility left. instead of now we see the price go up and down some times 10-20% per day, we will see 10-20% price swings, per year.
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December 06, 2015, 02:33:29 PM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. Bitcoin is a currency western union is a service to transfer money worldwide. Those are two different things. I believe just talking about bitcoin to the people around you helps a lot already, you don't need millions to let people know about it. not only talking about bitcoin to the people but i think you have to knowledge the shopkeepers about the benefit of using bitcoins and how their business can grow if they start accepting bitcoins. for that first we have to ask whether they accept bitcoin as their payment option.like this shopkeeper will come to know about bitcoin and its benefits. Is it really important for bitcoin to be available in physical shops? Why not a digital currency for the digital world. Rather than pushing it into real world, let bitcoin thrive in the digital world. I.e used for digital transactions Bitcoin could be applied in digital world, even in real world! It belongs to the whole world! It still needs time to get ppl be comfortable with it!
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Bitcoin couldn't function on the scale that western union does, at some point, the business would get fucked over by the large swings in price.
when bitcoin is getting accepted and wall street level traders step into it, then there won't be much volatility left. instead of now we see the price go up and down some times 10-20% per day, we will see 10-20% price swings, per year. i think you need big guys prior, the global acceptance of bitcoin, you need to increase its value, or the "average joe" will not enter the market massively or you need to do it via acceptance of bitcoin, like amazon or akin services, that incentivate those "joe" with a discount at the beginning
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December 06, 2015, 02:36:43 PM |
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I am planning to encourage my friends on social media to learn about bitcoins starting on creating a bitcoin wallet and faucets but I don't have much time to create visuals. It's much easier if you have pictures or videos on how to do it step by step since am not that good at words.
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December 06, 2015, 02:48:25 PM |
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Bitcoin couldn't function on the scale that western union does, at some point, the business would get fucked over by the large swings in price.
when bitcoin is getting accepted and wall street level traders step into it, then there won't be much volatility left. instead of now we see the price go up and down some times 10-20% per day, we will see 10-20% price swings, per year. i think you need big guys prior, the global acceptance of bitcoin, you need to increase it's value, or the "average joe" will not enter the market massively or you need to do it via acceptance of bitcoin, like amazon or akin services, that incentivate those "joe" with a discount at the beginning the impact of amazon, alibaba and ebay when they accept bitcoin will be huge. this will most definitely help convince the average joe to step in. only..... large companies such as amazon won't step in as long as nothing happens to the block size. imagine what would happen if they do accept bitcoin. each block will be filled instantly at 1mb.
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December 06, 2015, 02:49:43 PM |
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I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.
I believe it's the Bitcoin's supporters responsibility to advertise Bitcoin everywhere and support it as well by making deals with this crypto currency. Bitcoin still need advertising because many people still don't know about it till now
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December 06, 2015, 02:56:00 PM |
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In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known
I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh. Maybe just need more time to stabilise. Bitcoin is a currency western union is a service to transfer money worldwide. Those are two different things. I believe just talking about bitcoin to the people around you helps a lot already, you don't need millions to let people know about it. not only talking about bitcoin to the people but i think you have to knowledge the shopkeepers about the benefit of using bitcoins and how their business can grow if they start accepting bitcoins. for that first we have to ask whether they accept bitcoin as their payment option.like this shopkeeper will come to know about bitcoin and its benefits. Exactly, which starts out by talking, informing them. We can all do some advertisement for bitcoin by just talking about it and introducing people to what we believe is the future.
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December 06, 2015, 03:18:57 PM |
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I would support this but of course, change starts with yourself.
The only way the whole world will adapt to bitcoin is when bitcoin users are informing other people.
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