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Author Topic: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly"  (Read 108354 times)
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December 28, 2015, 05:56:50 AM
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in my opinion, bitfury will chip in 16 nm, but as power hash will avalon6 like, overpriced, and less efficiency,.
fuck I say there is a company that knows how to create a machine with power 16nm 25 th / s, that consumption 1800 W? 2000W max? at an affordable price you home?
spondoolies created a miner too esorbidante, I think none of us can buy it, it costs a lot, and consumes much energy.
It remains only bitmain that has the market for the end user.
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December 28, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
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For sure there have to be at least 2 players in the retail market for home miners
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December 28, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
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Need at least 3, since Avalon doesn't seem interested in actually competing.

 BW.com/Lketc probably January sometime.

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December 28, 2015, 11:27:38 AM
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Interesting...
I hope we see, some updates about bitfury in january.

Otherwise its very difficult to calculate our ROI(

Komuto Herovato is definitely the chief engineer of bfl)
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December 28, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
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soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity
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December 28, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
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soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity

I personally decided that it was game over around the time the S7 came out.

Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
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December 28, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
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Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...

Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving Smiley

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December 28, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
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Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...

Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving Smiley

That's what I was thinking, if you feel relief after stopping mining then you were doing it wrong.

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December 28, 2015, 10:42:00 PM
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Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving Smiley
That's what I was thinking, if you feel relief after stopping mining then you were doing it wrong.

Nah man, it's more like the relief you get when you quit a bad habit, like quitting smoking or something - Keeping up with hardware became un-fun.

Was fun for a while, though. Been there, done that, got the experience, having more fun following the markets and community now.
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January 04, 2016, 08:48:49 AM
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TLDR; do not sell BTC to pay electricity

I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.

The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.

I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.

The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.

To the moon and beyond (confiscation).

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January 10, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
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TLDR; do not sell BTC to pay electricity

I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.

The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.

I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.

The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.

To the moon and beyond (confiscation).

For big mining farms, they have to sell bitcoin to pay for the device and electricity. For home miners, we can keep the bitcoin.

 
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January 10, 2016, 03:28:27 PM
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I am waiting for updates  Grin
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January 10, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
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or just go to their website, the new chips are on the website

http://www.innosilicon.com

They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.

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They are selling known-as-working-masks or searching investors to finance the masks?
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January 11, 2016, 07:23:24 AM
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or just go to their website, the new chips are on the website

http://www.innosilicon.com

They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.

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They are selling known-as-working-masks or searching investors to finance the masks?

http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/11.html

 They did say in at least one comment somewhere on bitcointalk that the A3 and A4 would be released at the same time - though the A3 might come out first since they apparently don't think they NEED "investors" to be worth proceeding with it.

 I'd bet that one of their A4 investors is Zoomhash - they've been moving a lot of A2 units pretty cheap for a while now....

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January 11, 2016, 11:36:08 PM
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I do not think Inno taped out yet.
If this was the case , they would scream adds and PR
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January 12, 2016, 07:31:22 AM
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Innosilicon doesn't have and never has shown the "hype" mentality of most cryptocoin ASIC producers.
Consider how they introduced the A2 - AFTER they had it in full production.

 I suspect it's that they don't RELY on cryptocoin chips, they had a long-established chip business before they came up with the A1.


 On the other hand, they have specifically hyped that the A4 is "proven technology" in their press release about it, and SPECIFIED it had already taped out.

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January 12, 2016, 01:12:47 PM
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On the other hand, they have specifically hyped that the A4 is "proven technology" in their press release about it, and SPECIFIED it had already taped out.

Or only minor design changes + node shrink.

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January 13, 2016, 09:38:23 AM
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Was the A2 a full custom design?

 Bit more than a node shrink if it wasn't.

 Bit more than a node shrink if it was - FinFET is a significantly different technology than what has come before.

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January 16, 2016, 08:41:46 AM
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We are in talks with them.
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January 16, 2016, 01:51:23 PM
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We are in talks with them.

Let us know what you find out please
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