jonsi
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December 31, 2015, 01:43:25 PM |
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I have been watching this thing from the begining but I didn'n wanted to post anything because I don't have any skin in the game, but now I cant't belive my eyes how gullible and irrational are the people that belive the "I've been hacked story"!
First of all I hope that everyone will get their funds back, and I mean it.
From the first posts of the real-master-p it was so evident that he's a scammer and just want to buy time, but the convincing thing was the story that the hacker encripted the wallet on his computer and he didn't moved the funds because he was shure that nobody can move those funds. In fact, the reality is that, if master-p had a backup of the wallet it wouldn't have been affected by the encription of the wallet from the computer. So in this case, how could the hacker been so shure that he is the only one with access to the funds in those addresses? The only way is that the "hacker" is master-p himself and that's the end of it.
I don't blaim anyone that is still hopping that the story with the hacking to be true and that master-p will repay them back but people, if you want to recupe your funds the only way is to take legal action. And take it now!
I hoped that master-p will do the right thing after all and gave everyone their funds back but when i saw the post that "he doesn't have access to the funds anymore" it became clear that he think he will get away with it, and it is very possible to be true if the people that were robbed don't do anything.
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December 31, 2015, 01:46:02 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? Was master-p on depth 1 defaut trust? Cause it seems nearly impossible to go here. I mean I don't really see how OgNasty could make a scam, there is so much potential by being one of the most trusted member of the forum. It means whenever he wants to create something, every one will invest/try it. I don't see how a scam could repay for such a trust. But maybe it was the same for master p :/ |
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erwin45hacked
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December 31, 2015, 01:52:56 PM |
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You need to think clearly here, what you have been showing is nothing but just a normal scam there. Everyone knows that the world of altcoin is full of scams but this is totally a different case here where a solid forum that has alot of reputation decided to pull a scam trigger or atleast someone who hacked his account did |
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cjmoles
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December 31, 2015, 02:40:42 PM |
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You need to think clearly here, what you have been showing is nothing but just a normal scam there. Everyone knows that the world of altcoin is full of scams but this is totally a different case here where a solid forum that has alot of reputation decided to pull a scam trigger or atleast someone who hacked his account did Yes, I understand that the forum's trust system has been called into question in this particular situation as I pointed out. However, my point was aimed at the OP and the fact that they "...lost faith in the forum." The trust system worked and it wasn't the forums fault. It is a problem inherent in bitcoin: no matter who one decides to send their coin to there's that danger of it being stolen, period. And, I might add, if a 330 BTC scam is "just a normal scam," then maybe the problem is bigger than implied. In defense of the new generation of cryptography, there are a few very serious altcoins, Ethereum's one, that have robust smart contract functionalities that would negate the need for a "trusted" third party to provide escrow. |
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CuntChocula
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December 31, 2015, 04:10:05 PM |
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This might have been asked & answered, but have the forum admins been contacted by any of the real Master-Ps re. recovering real Master-P account?
Admins?
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December 31, 2015, 04:11:46 PM |
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I have been watching this thing from the begining but I didn'n wanted to post anything because I don't have any skin in the game, but now I cant't belive my eyes how gullible and irrational are the people that belive the "I've been hacked story"!
First of all I hope that everyone will get their funds back, and I mean it.
From the first posts of the real-master-p it was so evident that he's a scammer and just want to buy time, but the convincing thing was the story that the hacker encripted the wallet on his computer and he didn't moved the funds because he was shure that nobody can move those funds. In fact, the reality is that, if master-p had a backup of the wallet it wouldn't have been affected by the encription of the wallet from the computer. So in this case, how could the hacker been so shure that he is the only one with access to the funds in those addresses? The only way is that the "hacker" is master-p himself and that's the end of it.
I don't blaim anyone that is still hopping that the story with the hacking to be true and that master-p will repay them back but people, if you want to recupe your funds the only way is to take legal action. And take it now!
I hoped that master-p will do the right thing after all and gave everyone their funds back but when i saw the post that "he doesn't have access to the funds anymore" it became clear that he think he will get away with it, and it is very possible to be true if the people that were robbed don't do anything.
Yes, he was obviously just feeding off the residue of credibility that was left in his name with that hope he was going to pay back what he owes to people, but that has long gone away now. This has to be the worst story of 2015 for this forum. Gleb get in on this or it will never finish, sheesh  |
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December 31, 2015, 04:18:06 PM |
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So when is the doxx dumpening?
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If the original Backside walkaround can prove to me they are the old owner of this account, I can update the email address to the email address of their choosing.
Backside walkaround has lost access to their account as they used someone else's email address to sign up, and the owner of the email address got tired of random email notifications from this site after a few months and reset the password.
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amazonrefunder1
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December 31, 2015, 04:35:34 PM |
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Never trust someone here even if he admin or mod or 100% trusted person it's doens't matter only trust yourself or you'll get rip off.
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vancefox
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December 31, 2015, 05:36:24 PM |
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Never trust someone here even if he admin or mod or 100% trusted person it's doens't matter only trust yourself or you'll get rip off.
Pretty much... any time you're dealing with someone or something you have to accept the possibility you'll be ripped off/scammed. |
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suchmoon
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December 31, 2015, 05:40:58 PM |
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Hmmm... looks like a really long con for 20+ BTC. Bought an account more than a year ago, built up trust (possibly with puppets), although the exit scam doesn't seem to have been very successful. This could have
easily gone into triple digits if Master-P had a bit more patience and foresight. Me, cynic? Nah...
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December 31, 2015, 05:53:05 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? What about them. Master-p was super trusted too and look what happened, they can still get hacked anyways. |
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Blazed
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December 31, 2015, 06:00:45 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? What about them. Master-p was super trusted too and look what happened, they can still get hacked anyways. I can assure you that my setup is a lot better than what Master-P had. Also, if I were ever "hacked" I can easily repay any amount I ever escrowed. I was asked at one point to help hold funds for the forum and I agreed (I would obviously have to hand over my dox to Theymos). If you look at Master-P's trust versus mine you will notice mine is 10x more legit...not built up from asking to escrow deals. |
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redsn0w
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December 31, 2015, 06:02:27 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? What about them. Master-p was super trusted too and look what happened, they can still get hacked anyways. So what do you suggest? Stop to use the various escrow or maybe stop to trade here ... I trust OgNasty and Blazed and I know their care about their security, but as you said there is always the possibility that they can be 'hacked'. |
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Blazed
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December 31, 2015, 06:04:58 PM |
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Only an idiot would keep the bulk of their Bitcoin online (Sorry Master-P). Honestly, I can not even get to my offline coins without having to drive around to multiple places.
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The Sceptical Chymist
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December 31, 2015, 06:05:10 PM |
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Except it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas Master-P didn't actually get hacked, but that this is a huge breach of trust. You people with means are being way too easy on him and that's part of the problem with this forum. If he was indeed hacked, should he not go to the police or some sort of law enforcement? Why should the sig campaigners do this? Why should anyone give donations to Yahoo?
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Blazed
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December 31, 2015, 06:07:16 PM |
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Thinking with all this drama now is a good time to get out of the escrow biz though. It is not worth anyone's time who does it. I still do not think we have the entire story on this. Scamming for 23BTC just does not seem like an exit scam. I would think if he wanted to get more he could have?
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grtthegreat
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December 31, 2015, 06:08:19 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? What about them. Master-p was super trusted too and look what happened, they can still get hacked anyways.
But, the best thing to stop these is the Multi-Sig Escrow Network, I proposed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1308670 |
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Blazed
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December 31, 2015, 06:09:46 PM |
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I don't trust escrow here anymore.
Are you sure? What about OgNasty, Blazed? What about them. Master-p was super trusted too and look what happened, they can still get hacked anyways.
But, the best thing to stop these is the Multi-Sig Escrow Network, I proposed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1308670Do not judge by the green trust score though... You have to read what the feedbacks are and who left them! My score is the highest here and OgNasty is probably trusted by 10x more people than I am. Multi-Sig has issues also.. |
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KingZee
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December 31, 2015, 06:11:04 PM |
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Thinking with all this drama now is a good time to get out of the escrow biz though. It is not worth anyone's time who does it. I still do not think we have the entire story on this. Scamming for 23BTC just does not seem like an exit scam. I would think if he wanted to get more he could have?
When you look at it from his perspective, it's not like he didn't try. He was stalling almost everyone who used him since day D. I'm the one who popped the bubble. He was definitely aiming sky high until someone finally does what I did. Which I hopefully did soon enough? |
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grtthegreat
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December 31, 2015, 06:18:04 PM |
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Do not judge by the green trust score though... You have to read what the feedbacks are and who left them! My score is the highest here and OgNasty is probably trusted by 10x more people than I am.
Multi-Sig has issues also..
But is way more safer than the present escrow system, although OgNasty wasn't interested in implementing this either. |
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