Optiona is allways good. 16nm ASIC, 100w/THS 0.1J/GH on wall. MAX: 31THS/miner!!

[OgNasty]

once bitten twice shy, i will never trust you again.

I'm in this camp.  asiabtc talked me into paying a ridiculous price to purchase their soon to be released blade miner, and after many weeks of waiting a bunch of gridseed miners eventually showed up.  This was after he began selling the blades for nearly half what I was charged.  Never got any sort of compensation or even an apology.  I assumed it was communication issues involving a language barrier and eventually gave up.  I wonder how many other people have been similarly screwed by this company with no recourse...  Anyway, the writing is here on the wall for you.  Trust them if you want to be parted with your coins.

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[notlist3d]

Others have tried to be competitive with Bitmain before and it just is hard to do.   SP did that with SP20 and they claimed to be losing money on them

Do you trust them?.. I would not. Because:
..

I don't know much about them, I can say before buying I would want a video showing it working and also pool side shown.  Then I would want to read a few reviews to see what others think of it.   I have only purchased once during devlopment... terrahash long long ago and learned lesson and paypal saved my butt on that one.  So if were talking about trust to purchase... no not yet.

And it could be me but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317180.msg16681727#msg16681727 look a lot like some old S5 part's for chassis.  And I could be wrong it's been a while since I have had one.  But that makes me wonder even if work's if still in prototype stage vs production.

But again I have not followed them closely, I would love to see more miners out there.  But I'm a skeptic at this point with new gear I know little of.   And no offense was meant by that to OP.  It just is there is a lot more they could show assuming that unit works.

[Sierra8561]

Others have tried to be competitive with Bitmain before and it just is hard to do.   SP did that with SP20 and they claimed to be losing money on them

Do you trust them?.. I would not. Because:
..

I don't know much about them, I can say before buying I would want a video showing it working and also pool side shown.  Then I would want to read a few reviews to see what others think of it.   I have only purchased once during devlopment... terrahash long long ago and learned lesson and paypal saved my butt on that one.  So if were talking about trust to purchase... no not yet.

And it could be me but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317180.msg16681727#msg16681727 look a lot like some old S5 part's for chassis.  And I could be wrong it's been a while since I have had one.  But that makes me wonder even if work's if still in prototype stage vs production.

But again I have not followed them closely, I would love to see more miners out there.  But I'm a skeptic at this point with new gear I know little of.   And no offense was meant by that to OP.  It just is there is a lot more they could show assuming that unit works.

I agree, before I buy I'd want one in hand before I pay or have a trusted member of this forum with the same opportunity. I'm all for supporting a alternative to what we have, but won't be ripped off.

[philipma1957]

once bitten twice shy, i will never trust you again.

I'm in this camp.  asiabtc talked me into paying a ridiculous price to purchase their soon to be released blade miner, and after many weeks of waiting a bunch of gridseed miners eventually showed up.  This was after he began selling the blades for nearly half what I was charged.  Never got any sort of compensation or even an apology.  I assumed it was communication issues involving a language barrier and eventually gave up.  I wonder how many other people have been similarly screwed by this company with no recourse...  Anyway, the writing is here on the wall for you.  Trust them if you want to be parted with your coins.

yeah if I recall 3000 usd to start and drop drop drop drop drop   to about 350 usd  in under six months.


 I would also say  they killed ltc and it never really recovered. but that could be quite an argument as other factors stand in for that.

To op I am still willing to test and review a model plus pay a fair price for it.

But Most people here would say I am trustworthy and you are not trustworthy.

I am like  I will give a guy a second chance.  So when you are ready to send me a demo I will run it test it do a long thread on it.

And then pay you for it. or ship it back on my dime.  your risk is I run away with one unit which since it is shipping to my home in NJ, USA  means I would be running away from my home.  Which I am not looking to do at the age of 59.

[Sierra8561]

once bitten twice shy, i will never trust you again.

I'm in this camp.  asiabtc talked me into paying a ridiculous price to purchase their soon to be released blade miner, and after many weeks of waiting a bunch of gridseed miners eventually showed up.  This was after he began selling the blades for nearly half what I was charged.  Never got any sort of compensation or even an apology.  I assumed it was communication issues involving a language barrier and eventually gave up.  I wonder how many other people have been similarly screwed by this company with no recourse...  Anyway, the writing is here on the wall for you.  Trust them if you want to be parted with your coins.

yeah if I recall 3000 usd to start and drop drop drop drop drop   to about 350 usd  in under six months.


 I would also say  they killed ltc and it never really recovered. but that could be quite an argument as other factors stand in for that.

To op I am still willing to test and review a model plus pay a fair price for it.

But Most people here would say I am trustworthy and you are not trustworthy.

I am like  I will give a guy a second chance.  So when you are ready to send me a demo I will run it test it do a long thread on it.

And then pay you for it. or ship it back on my dime.  your risk is I run away with one unit which since it is shipping to my home in NJ, USA  means I would be running away from my home.  Which I am not looking to do at the age of 59.

If it's Phil approved I'll give it a shot.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

once bitten twice shy, i will never trust you again.

I'm in this camp.  asiabtc talked me into paying a ridiculous price to purchase their soon to be released blade miner, and after many weeks of waiting a bunch of gridseed miners eventually showed up.  This was after he began selling the blades for nearly half what I was charged.  Never got any sort of compensation or even an apology.  I assumed it was communication issues involving a language barrier and eventually gave up.  I wonder how many other people have been similarly screwed by this company with no recourse...  Anyway, the writing is here on the wall for you.  Trust them if you want to be parted with your coins.

yeah if I recall 3000 usd to start and drop drop drop drop drop   to about 350 usd  in under six months.

 I would also say  they killed ltc and it never really recovered. but that could be quite an argument as other factors stand in for that.

To op I am still willing to test and review a model plus pay a fair price for it.

But Most people here would say I am trustworthy and you are not trustworthy.

I am like  I will give a guy a second chance.  So when you are ready to send me a demo I will run it test it do a long thread on it.

And then pay you for it. or ship it back on my dime.  your risk is I run away with one unit which since it is shipping to my home in NJ, USA  means I would be running away from my home.  Which I am not looking to do at the age of 59.

Gotta say, ditto to what Phil says.
I jumped into the hardware end of BTC because of an A1 miner I ordered from AMT/Josh Zipkin (@ notlisted - same miner for you?) back in Feb 2014. A whole saga in itself there... Point is, I did forensics on the A1 boards as-designed by the Swiss company Bitmine.ch and replicated by IMET for AMT. I said it before in the A1 and Innosilicon threads: Bitmine.ch/AMT were clueless as to even the most basic power network and thermal design rules. As for IMET's role - as a PCB assembly house they should have known better and after a proper design review given a polite"ahem" followed by their concerns about what should have been very obvious design flaws - not just taken the no-review approach of 'here is BOM, replicate the board'.

Anywho, if you want a technical write up of it -- possibly with warts and weak points and all -- from an Industrial electronics designers viewpoint <raises hand>. Bear in mind that systems I've designed have proven lifetimes of decades...

*if* anything stands out, of course remedies to weak points will be supplied as well

[klintay]

Others have tried to be competitive with Bitmain before and it just is hard to do.   SP did that with SP20 and they claimed to be losing money on them

Do you trust them?.. I would not. Because:

and we all know they now are out of the game.

May be they just make a HW for themselves?.. Why not?

Do not trust Lightning asic, they are not legit and will trick you.

I purchased a cloud mining contract from lightning asic, here are the details;

Contract:3 Months
Details:0.025BTC/H/s,150H/S.
Total:3.75BTC.

I dealt with their sales lade (anna@lightningasic.com) who was polite and nice. The mining was suppose to start on 28th October and receive payments daily. This is how much I have received from them:

Friday 4th November - Payment 1: 0.005 zect
Monday 7th November Payment 2: 0.012 zec
Total received: 0.017 zec

This is nothing close to what 150 h/s should deliver, at current difficulty I should be receiving 0.025-0.027 zec a day. Not to mention all the zec they owe me for the others days that there was no payment. Ten times less than what I have received from other cloud mining companies for just 50 h/s.

If you do not have the hash power to deliver your promise hash rate then you are running a ponzi. Please refund my btc immediately. It is not only me. Many other people have not received ANY payout as well.

[klintay]

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam

the time will prove it.

yeah time has proven you are a scammer. Where is my zec cloud mining payouts? I purchased 150 h/s but you have delivered nothing...no daily payout and nothing close to the 150 h/s promised.

[philipma1957]

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam

the time will prove it.

yeah time has proven you are a scammer. Where is my zec cloud mining payouts? I purchased 150 h/s but you have delivered nothing...no daily payout and nothing close to the 150 h/s promised.

Sorry to,hear this.

He never contacted me so I think he may not be too good to buy from.

[klintay]

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam

the time will prove it.

yeah time has proven you are a scammer. Where is my zec cloud mining payouts? I purchased 150 h/s but you have delivered nothing...no daily payout and nothing close to the 150 h/s promised.

Sorry to,hear this.

He never contacted me so I think he may not be too good to buy from.

Yep I am receiving some payouts but it is only 1/10 of what it should be (15 h/s vs 150 h/s). also not daily. one of my own mining rigs of 50 h/s is beating these guys

[Unacceptable]

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam

the time will prove it.

yeah time has proven you are a scammer. Where is my zec cloud mining payouts? I purchased 150 h/s but you have delivered nothing...no daily payout and nothing close to the 150 h/s promised.

Sorry to,hear this.

He never contacted me so I think he may not be too good to buy from.

Yep I am receiving some payouts but it is only 1/10 of what it should be (15 h/s vs 150 h/s). also not daily. one of my own mining rigs of 50 h/s is beating these guys

ALL mining contracts are scams...ALL OF THEM.You will NOT get a breakeven on ANY of them................ 

[klintay]

I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam

the time will prove it.

yeah time has proven you are a scammer. Where is my zec cloud mining payouts? I purchased 150 h/s but you have delivered nothing...no daily payout and nothing close to the 150 h/s promised.

Sorry to,hear this.

He never contacted me so I think he may not be too good to buy from.

Yep I am receiving some payouts but it is only 1/10 of what it should be (15 h/s vs 150 h/s). also not daily. one of my own mining rigs of 50 h/s is beating these guys

ALL mining contracts are scams...ALL OF THEM.You will NOT get a breakeven on ANY of them................  

yep i knew this already...all the more painful. I only bought once before from bitmain....that made money (about 5-10% more in btc terms than what i invested).

[QuintLeo]

ALL mining contracts are scams...ALL OF THEM.You will NOT get a breakeven on ANY of them................ 

 I did pretty well (as did everyone else) on those contracts BitMain was offering for a while.

 Not HUGE profits, and not up to their claims, but definitely profitable.

[Unacceptable]

ALL mining contracts are scams...ALL OF THEM.You will NOT get a breakeven on ANY of them................ 

 I did pretty well (as did everyone else) on those contracts BitMain was offering for a while.

 Not HUGE profits, and not up to their claims, but definitely profitable.

That was awhile ago too I bet.

I did Hashnest S7 & barely got out what I put in by selling my shares just in time,I got VERY lucky.......... 

[asiabtc]

working sample is ready.
jump to the start of this thread.
working sample video:
https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg][url]https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg[/url]

[yxt]

ftfy: https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg

[moe7865]

working sample is ready.
jump to the start of this thread.
working sample video:
[url]https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg]https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg][url]https://youtu.be/mPyTKAufstg[/url]

When do they go on sale?
I'd consider buying a few after philipma reviews them.
Really hope this turns out to be legit

[philipma1957]

@ op  I am going to be reviewing the x6 on this thread


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1679638.msg16913367#msg16913367



Send me one of yours

I will do a full review of it.

Send me a pm.

I will give you my address.

I will pay for it or ship it back after review.

People on this site want more gear.  Please let me know via pm.

Since the S9 from bitmaintech has issues
Since the Avalon 721 wants bank transfer only

Your gear could sell well.




I am fair minded and willing to do a fair review.

I have done many:

Rig reviews are below



Here are some of them.

sp20 from spondoolies
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=872014.0

s9 underclock thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1590910.0
s9 setup thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512186.0

psu review of server psu
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1284563.0

avalon6
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1336377.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260500.0

s7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1188217.0

compac usb stick review
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1086011.0

s5

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927941.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907219.0

avalon 4.1

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951758.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950604.0

[dogie]

I do hope those long boards aren't arbitrarily connected or sharing comm lines, it'd really suck to have to RMA something of those dimensions and portion of your hashing power.

[Rabinovitch]

asiabtc, are you going to sell this miner at last, since you have posted a photos and a videos?