Satoshi Nakamoto is 100% a US/UK government agency collaboration

[calkob]

What part do the aliens have to play in it?   

[Thekool1s]

Bitcoin is the currency of the new one world order! What sets the fiat apart from bitcoin is the fact that it is limited. So when people say goodbye to fiat they will have bitcoin as an alternative. But i wont mind that, atleast its better than fiat. Less fees, anonymous etc

[labwork]

So many conspiracy theories! 


I don't think everything needs to be such a high-level "black ops/secretive/end of the world" stuff. It's just a well though algorithm people!

[n2004al]

So I was reading through Satoshi posts alongside the bitcoin whitepaper recently

Yeah yeah I know this is an old topic but hell... still an interesting discussion.

No new evidence but I did notice:

* Some UK spelling in the whitepaper (favourable) whilst Satoshi uses USA spelling on bitcointalk posts
* In some old bitcointalk posts he interchanges I with we in a very suspicious way that an individual would not do
* The technology behind bitcoin and the quality of the whitepaper & Satoshi's posts could defnitely not have been done by one person. Come on, I mean you've got Merkel Trees (a linux technology), Poisson distribution, networking, public/private encryption, TOR, a recipe in the whitepaper that implies the idea has been tried and tested in depth on a private network. The way the paper is written is EXTREMELY professional. I have read quite a few whitepapers and this is more professional than many I have read which have multiple authors (and this is supposedly just 1 individual). This is 100% not an individual writing this but a team of people.
* The thing just freakin works as soon as it is released with no problems. This is very suspect and unusual. Anyone who ever did programming knows that nothing works like that unless it has been EXTENSIVELY tested for months and months (if not years). That requires a lot of skill and resources, more than any individual has.
* The paper was released at the beginning of the year (suspicious.... implies it was professionally scheduled)

Lets also remember at this point that most of the protocols behind the internet were invented by the US government. It's a no brainer.

Basically this is a 100% US government project (I think US & UK, given the mix of spellings). It is 100% a team that worked on it and it was an idea that was worked on for years until it was released.

50 years in the future we will know when the files come out. Until then everything else in the media is a false flag. That's another reason why satoshi is so effective at keeping his silence and will never return. Because the project has now successfully concluded and been shut down. Also it is no coincidence the marshalls coins went to one of the most established and trusted American VCs.

So, if I have understand correctly the post of OP and first of all the part in bold of it, we have a big secret project, which for sure and without any kind of doubt, (the being secure of OP is 100% and not 97% or 98.7865% but exactly 100%), was created firstly from Us Government and then - rethinking well and adding some details not catches before (which have to do with an extremely important and not possible to deny detail - the spelling) - correcting the author, a product even of UK Government. Then those two Governments probably had fear to release publicly their project and its product (bitcoin and blockchain) and asked the help of Satoshi Nakamoto promising to him the first 1 million produced bitcoin. But with one condition. Satoshi must disappear after a while and after the having its part of bitcoin. Then The US Government (in accordance with UK Government) will order Fed to study their work in order to learn about what is talking about and to see the possibility to apply that technology when and where FED will think is more profitable for FED and the US Government.

Finally the big secret is known. Everyone who have anxiety about this event now can make sweet dreams.  

[cjmoles]

What part do the aliens have to play in it?    

That's the sweetest part of the whole bitcoin black-ops project.  Now aliens can get their hands on US dollars without actually having to sneak into the country to get them.  It was the main focus of the project....to decentralize the currency so that the aliens could get it without trespassing.  It all makes perfect sense now!

[bargainbin]

What part do the aliens have to play in it?    

That's the sweetest part of the whole bitcoin black-ops project.  Now aliens can get their hands on US dollars without actually having to sneak into the country to get them.  It was the main focus of the project....to decentralize the currency so that the aliens could get it without trespassing.  It all makes perfect sense now!

Must reduce blogsize to aid decentralization -- Saurian miners at disadvantage due to due to poor & Great Galactic Firewall.

[AgentofCoin]

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For the sake of conversation,
if you think it was created as a type of US/UK Black Project, PsyOps, IntelOps, or other,
what do you think the true purpose of Bitcoin/bitcoin is?

Some speculate that NSA or whatever spy agency was involved with bitcoin, just to spy on ppl. Bitcoin is not anonymous, its public ledger could make it easy for some organization with resources of NSA to tracks everyone transactions. Its easier than going to each single bank on the word asking for transaction information. With bitcoin, everything is available in the blockchain.
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No one so far supporting the OPs argument has given a valid reason or the true intent of bitcoin, under the OPs assumption.
For the NSA to use this as a tool for watching certain people and their money move is fine. Any agency can do that now.
But the problem is that the surveillance is limited to only the current user base.
So why release it to watch a few people, buying and trading here and there?

In a few years, the Devs could potentially change Bitcoin so that txs are obfuscated and anonymous.
That would entirely destroy this theory of gov creation for surveillance or control.

And because of the foregoing, I'm going to say it is just an "experiment in economics for now and for reason".

[thejaytiesto]

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For the sake of conversation,
if you think it was created as a type of US/UK Black Project, PsyOps, IntelOps, or other,
what do you think the true purpose of Bitcoin/bitcoin is?

Some speculate that NSA or whatever spy agency was involved with bitcoin, just to spy on ppl. Bitcoin is not anonymous, its public ledger could make it easy for some organization with resources of NSA to tracks everyone transactions. Its easier than going to each single bank on the word asking for transaction information. With bitcoin, everything is available in the blockchain.

Tor was developed originally by  United States Naval Research Laboratory, so why Bitcoin could not be similar project. There are already many speculations about NSA and bItcoin, e.g.:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/is-the-national-security-agency-behind-bitcoin/

Are you kidding me? How can they even "hack Bitcoin transactions"? The only way they could do this is if SHA2 had some sort of backdoor and even then I doubt it would be that easy. Also if SHA2 had a backdoor (I dont understand how something open source can have a backdoor?) it would end up leaking and it would be a disaster for global economy since most of the stuff is encrypted with that algorithm.

[Kprawn]

Let's say it's some sort of government experiment.... What would be the possible goal for that? The code is OpenSource... So nothing can be hidden,

without other nations developers spotting it. The developers are from different countries and the most hashing power are centered around China. If,

it was some sort of government project... I would say, they failed miserably. Let's just accept the facts and continue with the experiment.

[155UE]

I really doubt it was created by the government. I really don't see a point why they would try and make something like it and many government people don't support it.

[Erkallys]

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For the sake of conversation,
if you think it was created as a type of US/UK Black Project, PsyOps, IntelOps, or other,
what do you think the true purpose of Bitcoin/bitcoin is?

Some speculate that NSA or whatever spy agency was involved with bitcoin, just to spy on ppl. Bitcoin is not anonymous, its public ledger could make it easy for some organization with resources of NSA to tracks everyone transactions. Its easier than going to each single bank on the word asking for transaction information. With bitcoin, everything is available in the blockchain.

Tor was developed originally by  United States Naval Research Laboratory, so why Bitcoin could not be similar project. There are already many speculations about NSA and bItcoin, e.g.:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/is-the-national-security-agency-behind-bitcoin/

Are you kidding me? How can they even "hack Bitcoin transactions"? The only way they could do this is if SHA2 had some sort of backdoor and even then I doubt it would be that easy. Also if SHA2 had a backdoor (I dont understand how something open source can have a backdoor?) it would end up leaking and it would be a disaster for global economy since most of the stuff is encrypted with that algorithm.

Isn't Bitcoin's algorithm SHA-256 instead of SHA-2 ? Maybe is it the same thing, or at least the same "protocol" ?

[franky1]

Isn't Bitcoin's algorithm SHA-256 instead of SHA-2 ? Maybe is it the same thing, or at least the same "protocol" ?

sha 2, is like the category or brief way of saying it

sha3 is the same. it has some variations (Schnorr being one of them)

but to be specific to bitcoin.. its secp256k1

[twister]

Let's for one minute say that what you're saying is correct, that Satoshi was not a person but a group of people and it is a government project, what did they expect to achieve with it?

And as far as his writing is concerned, maybe Satoshi hired a few people to do certain jobs and one of those jobs was to write a paper on it professionally and he then hired few proof readers, who could have been from UK/USA and must have edited a few things according to them.

[CuntChocula]

Let's for one minute say that what you're saying is correct, that Satoshi was not a person but a group of people and it is a government project, what did they expect to achieve with it?

Think about the sort of people Bitcoin attracts: Anti-government anarchists, tax cheat, drug users, the pathologically foolish, internet criminals... Like Pooh Bear to a Honeypot...
Ehh?  Yeah, now you're getting it...

[gentlemand]

So Bitcoin is the creation of some of the most powerful people in the world? At least I'll be a wealthy slave. And I'll probably grant my dogsbodies a couple of hours recreation per week even though I don't need to.

[AgentofCoin]

Let's for one minute say that what you're saying is correct, that Satoshi was not a person but a group of people and it is a government project, what did they expect to achieve with it?

Think about the sort of people Bitcoin attracts: Anti-government anarchists, tax cheat, drug users, the pathologically foolish, internet criminals... Like Pooh Bear to a Honeypot...
Ehh?  Yeah, now you're getting it...

What you stated can be said for all forms of payment, including online payments
such as gift cards, paypal, and things like skrill & etc.

Why would a government release Bitcoin/bitcoin, creating a Pandora's box of
unknown future possibilities that is uncontrollable and hurtful to that creator nation?

That is like saying a government would release a whitepaper on how to create a nuclear bomb
from materials found within the average household, so that they can monitor who will use it.
Now that it is public knowledge, there is great risk of destruction of what already exists.
By releasing it, they themselves caused their own eventual destruction.

If it is indeed a government operation, there needs to be a better reasoning to release it,
that outweighs the uncontrollable paradigm shift. Just to watch "criminals and nuts" is too simple.

[virtualdn]

If this is true and you own at least 1 BTC very soon you will be rich my friend

[CuntChocula]

Let's for one minute say that what you're saying is correct, that Satoshi was not a person but a group of people and it is a government project, what did they expect to achieve with it?

Think about the sort of people Bitcoin attracts: Anti-government anarchists, tax cheat, drug users, the pathologically foolish, internet criminals... Like Pooh Bear to a Honeypot...
Ehh?  Yeah, now you're getting it...

What you stated can be said for all forms of payment, including online payments
such as gift cards, paypal, and things like skrill & etc.

You'd have a great point there if DNMs accepted gift cards and PayPal. I'll let you figure out why they don't, as a thought exercise.

Why would a government release Bitcoin/bitcoin, creating a Pandora's box of
unknown future possibilities that is uncontrollable and hurtful to that creator nation?

What you're really asking is "why would a government create something it couldn't control." The answer to that is "It obviously wouldn't."
Which means that they can control it. Or have some sort of back door/kill switch/shit we know nothing about but they do.

That is like saying a government would release a whitepaper on how to create a nuclear bomb
from materials found within the average household, so that they can monitor who will use it.
Now that it is public knowledge, there is great risk of destruction of what already exists.
By releasing it, they themselves caused their own eventual destruction.

No, it's like a government releasing a whitepaper on how to create a nuclear bomb
from materials found within the average household, and then watch people downloading that white paper, and buying the household chem.
Caveat: The bomb, when built per gov. plans, is as menacing as a big cuddly stuffy. You only think you're building a bomb, the feds just watch & lel.

If it is indeed a government operation, there needs to be a better reasoning to release it,
that outweighs the uncontrollable paradigm shift. Just to watch "criminals and nuts" is too simple.

If you could understand how Bitcoin is a honeypot, it wouldn't be much of a honeypot now, would it?

[vrm86]

Genesis block has been mined 7 years ago - how many criminals have been tracked down and arrested with the help of BTC blockchain technology already? Even the closure of the first Silk Road was just the old-fashioned inside job.

If you could understand how Bitcoin is a honeypot, it wouldn't be much of a honeypot now, would it?

Nooo, THEY want you to think that way to encourage you to perform some illegal activity :>

[ShrykeZ]

There's a certain value to every theory I guess, but until the real Satoshi be it a group or single individual turn up all this will be is a theory. An interesting theory though "100%"? There isn't enough proof for that.