[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[Wolf Rainer]

Selling 176.93984835 LISK key for 1 btc.

I was thinking about trying to sell one of my wallets, but now I'm wondering how it is possible... sure one can use escrow to sell the key, but you will still have the seed and with that seed won't you still have access even after selling the the key and seed???

I'm curious because if it is possible I'd be interested in selling one of my wallets with ~14000 LISK in it before the release (let me know in PM if you are interested and know a safe way).

You can use the devs as escrow. A lot of people still dont generate the keys so you can send a PM asking for devs to change your keys to new ones for a third person.

I'm not so sure they would agree to this, they have a lot on their plate right now.

Well you can say you loses your keys but you have your account and your e-mail, and you want to generate new keys.

[BlockChainr]

FACT: The coin price of largest ICOs has dropped by 60% on average upon launch on exchanges.

Conclusion: Skip buying on Lisk ICO and buy cheap Lisk after it launches on exchanges in next 2 to 3 weeks

EDIT: My conclusion is FLAWED because coins of all largest ICOs did not launch until few months to a year after the end of their ICO's.

Given that Lisk will be launching in just 3 weeks after ICO and that Lisk has already been in development for the past 2 years, I don't anticipate much (if any) drop in price upon launch.

I suggest to have plenty of BTC ready at the exchanges to buy more Lisk once it launches, before it rises above $3 to $5.

[jay_pilch]

I'm sorry for huge red letters, but.

Bter invested 2,500,000 XCR from their coldwallet.
 
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
I suggest Max and Oliver consider it as a thieft investment and freeze it. Because Bter stole this money from its users.

Don't worry. We know it.

I know this probably isn't possible, but is it possible to distribute the LISK that BTER falsely invested into the real XCR shareholders. ;-)

[iambitcoin5]

Selling 10k Lisk for 50 btc.  

[Wolf Rainer]

FACT: The coin price of largest ICOs has dropped by 60% on average upon launch on exchanges.

Conclusion: Skip buying on Lisk ICO and buy cheap Lisk after it launches on exchanges in next 2 to 3 weeks

EDIT: My conclusion is FLAWED because coins of all largest ICOs did not launch until few months to a year after the end of their ICO's.

Given that Lisk will be launching in just 3 weeks after ICO and that Lisk has already been in development for the past 2 years, I don't anticipate much (if any) drop in price upon launch.

I suggest to have plenty of BTC ready at the exchanges to buy more Lisk once it launches, before it rises above $3 to $5.

ahahahaha, lol. Classic bear - bull turn.

[jay_pilch]

http://liskprice.tk/

How does this website calculate the price?

[bitseedmike]

I'm sorry for huge red letters, but.

Bter invested 2,500,000 XCR from their coldwallet.
 
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
I suggest Max and Oliver consider it as a thieft investment and freeze it. Because Bter stole this money from its users.

I concur. I would really rather see this returned to the Bter cold wallet and have Lin move everything in the cold wallet over to the Bter hot wallet, allow account holders to withdraw their funds, and allow them to still convert to Lisk. I have been watching the Bter cold wallet several times a day to see if the funds moved, and expected it might move at the last minute to allow withdrawals. It was a surprise to see Lin show up an hour and a half before the ICO end on Rocket to say he wanted to "manually process withdrawals" for Bter account holders. Right!

Bter is showing classic signs of insolvency and I recommend withdrawing any funds held there.

For reference, the last time I made this recommendation about an exchange was last July, regarding Cryptsy:

I sent an email directly to him as well and also haven't heard anything, but I'll watch out for him today and see if I can talk to him via the trollbox.

I still don't think Cryptsy is going anywhere, but the number of down wallets sure makes me wonder WTF is going on.

Thanks. I haven't received any answer yet as well. I would be careful of Cryptsy at that point.

Cryptsy shows all of the classic signs of being insolvent. I recommend withdrawing any funds from there immediately.

[iambitcoin5]

FACT: The coin price of largest ICOs has dropped by 60% on average upon launch on exchanges.

Conclusion: Skip buying on Lisk ICO and buy cheap Lisk after it launches on exchanges in next 2 to 3 weeks

EDIT: My conclusion is FLAWED because coins of all largest ICOs did not launch until few months to a year after the end of their ICO's.

Given that Lisk will be launching in just 3 weeks after ICO and that Lisk has already been in development for the past 2 years, I don't anticipate much (if any) drop in price upon launch.

I suggest to have plenty of BTC ready at the exchanges to buy more Lisk once it launches, before it rises above $3 to $5.

ahahahaha, lol. Classic bear - bull turn.

I know right. LMFAO 😂. His opinion changed quick.

[peer2peer360]

Anytime bter invested ill-gotten gains
From one of the lisk community members
That should tell you somethg about lisk..

Multiple Exchanges will be
 getting in the Lisk action sooner or later..

Successful ico, Lisk can't go unnotice now.

Lisk will be in demand when it opens for trade..

Watch for neXT few days to coming weeks
Lisk will be in the News headlines...

P2p360

[poornamelessme]

I know this probably isn't possible, but is it possible to distribute the LISK that BTER falsely invested into the real XCR shareholders. ;-)

I really wonder how Bter plans to play this. They must have known that the Lisk devs could figure out it was from the cold wallet. And in the XCR thread they stated they will try to get people who tried to withdraw their Lisk, somehow.

So what I expect they'll try to do is link withdraw attempts on record with an equivalent amount of Lisk.

But even that is incredibly shady (and like impossible to verify), because for weeks Bter purposely kept their hot wallets empty. Resulting in everyone basically dumping XCR at cheap prices, just to get whatever BTC they could, so they could leave the exchange.

Now if I was an evil Bter person (or persons), I'd buy up that cheap XCR, and then withdraw/convert for myself at the last minute... which is exactly as this seems to have played out.

[Stealth27374]

Hi..   

I send to the ico,  Exchange # 10701

 https://blockchain.info/address/1JxTMRvcA1hiwemdWpQkxfTHqd9MvqBfXou6

Sent it well before the end..   but btc network super slow, now looks like 10701 got disabled.

Can please include it please ?   Please please please.

[Jacqul]

I'm sorry for huge red letters, but.

Bter invested 2,500,000 XCR from their coldwallet.
 
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
I suggest Max and Oliver consider it as a thieft investment and freeze it. Because Bter stole this money from its users.

Don't worry. We know it.

Wow....what kind of a group of people do they have running things over there anyway?  How in the world do they think that that's okay???  That's a shady crowd there for sure!

Can confirm, I tried to withdraw XCR from BTER to divert to LISK ICO.
Initially transaction was on hold for 4 days.
When it went through it went through with fake TxID, does not show up on blockchain explorer, does not show up in wallet.
Now that ICO is finished, support is contacting me asking me to send them my "blockchain.db" file.
As far as I am concerned BTER stole from me and it seems that they have invested my funds in the ICO.

[dzarmush]

FACT: The coin price of largest ICOs has dropped by 60% on average upon launch on exchanges.

Conclusion: Skip buying on Lisk ICO and buy cheap Lisk after it launches on exchanges in next 2 to 3 weeks

EDIT: My conclusion is FLAWED because coins of all largest ICOs did not launch until few months to a year after the end of their ICO's.

Given that Lisk will be launching in just 3 weeks after ICO and that Lisk has already been in development for the past 2 years, I don't anticipate much (if any) drop in price upon launch.[/b]

I suggest to have plenty of BTC ready at the exchanges to buy more Lisk once it launches, before it rises above $3 to $5.

You're stupid as fuck if you think your posts convince anyone in anything. They were meaningless before as they are now as they will always be. You'd better save your time and do some self education.

[peer2peer360]

Selling 10k Lisk for 50 btc.  

(WTS) 5K Lisk @ 25 btc

PM

[ktfutura]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-beddows-19aa09107

IT Manager
GREYVILLE ENTERPRISES LIMITED
September 2003 – February 2016 (12 years 6 months)United Kingdom
My responsibilities at Greyville Enterprises covered a broad spectrum of areas, relating to everything from web development, to marketing and promotional activities.

First and foremost, I developed and maintained the Ruby on Rails based B2B e-commerce web application, used by Bicycle Dealers throughout the United Kingdom to order in new supplies of parts and accessories.

Secondly, I also developed many backend office applications and reports, handled any hardware maintenance, gave staff training, and provided general I.T support to the whole business.

Additionally, I also designed an annual 200-page trade catalogue, produced regular email marketing campaigns, managed the company's social media, and designed printed adverts that were included in the BikeBiz trade magazine.

[ottobene]

ICO end, but my CURRENT ESTIMATE LISK still continue decrease

[stormia]

WTS 14738.40719615 LISK for ~60 BTC (or possibly lower, we can talk but this is, so far, lower than anybody else is offering on here)

If it is even possible to sell before release... which I still don't know if it is...

[SEABOND]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-beddows-19aa09107

IT Manager
GREYVILLE ENTERPRISES LIMITED
September 2003 – February 2016 (12 years 6 months)United Kingdom
My responsibilities at Greyville Enterprises covered a broad spectrum of areas, relating to everything from web development, to marketing and promotional activities.

First and foremost, I developed and maintained the Ruby on Rails based B2B e-commerce web application, used by Bicycle Dealers throughout the United Kingdom to order in new supplies of parts and accessories.

Secondly, I also developed many backend office applications and reports, handled any hardware maintenance, gave staff training, and provided general I.T support to the whole business.

Additionally, I also designed an annual 200-page trade catalogue, produced regular email marketing campaigns, managed the company's social media, and designed printed adverts that were included in the BikeBiz trade magazine.

so, what's your point?

Firstly, I agree with keeping this ICO fair.

Due to DPOS nature of LISK, DEV team should be fair and burn all BTER XCR coins.
Can a delegate please make a new thread with a poll and the following options:

VOTE
1. Burn all BTER XCR donations
2. Keep all BTER XCR donations

DPOS FTW

[Jacqul]

I'm sorry for huge red letters, but.

Bter invested 2,500,000 XCR from their coldwallet.[/size][/color]
 
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
I suggest Max and Oliver consider it as a thieft investment and freeze it. Because Bter stole this money from its users.

Correct


ID   Address/TxID   Amount   Date

100113   9589172310933821853C

12388600146119638685   131931.1134   2016-03-20 17:04:13

About 1.3million was mine, tried withdrawing a week ago, fake transaction ID 1 day ago. 10 Emails back and forth.

Just to let you know, this happened to me as well.

[NorrisK]

signature campaign rewards:
week 1 = 869,56 LISK
week 2 = 421,05 LISK
week 3 = 189,57 LISK
week 4 = 138,40 LISK
week 5 = 111,73 LISK

great rewards

no way really !?

That´s like 0.3 btc at the ico price, lol.

week 1 = 40000 LISK /46
week 2 = 40000 LISK /95
week 3 = 40000 LISK /211
week 4 = 40000 LISK /289
week 5 = 40000 LISK /358

that's more accurate i assume

Didn't they state that you get 1 share per participated week?

so 200,000 / (46 + 95 + 211 + 289 + 358) = 200.something per share?

EDIT for quote from lisk website, same should apply for bitcointalk signature:

At the end of the bounty campaign there are two people participating in the “Twitter” category.

User A followed us on Twitter for 2 weeks, he owns 2 stakes.
User B followed us on Twitter for 6 weeks, he owns 6 stakes.

This means there are a total of 8 stakes in this category.

User A will receive ¼ (2/8) of the 200,000 LISK, i.e. 50,000 LISK.
User B will receive ¾ (6/8) of the 200,000 LISK, i.e. 150,000 LISK.

Regarding bter: I also think their XCR deposit should be disregarded and get burned. Are we sure they didn't also send btc that belongs to their customers? That would bascially be the same right.