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October 27, 2016, 05:13:04 PM |
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abyrnes81
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October 27, 2016, 05:28:59 PM |
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When we start to the moon?  Never, no I'm just kidding  . It will mooooon when the first official dapp/blockchain app will be released and delegates will be able to forge. |
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vlom
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October 27, 2016, 07:35:48 PM |
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I've been running a $10 node since July. I don't know what happened prior to that but I see the facts that I just pointed out. 1) Lisk is not ready yet 2) at this point you can run a $10 dollar node 3) the community can't handle the bugs that may occur.
1. true 2. sure right now on mainnet because genesis nodes are running all the forging spots and are stable because they are not switching ranks. What happens when we're allowed to start forging and the order of forging nodes starts to change and forks start happening again on mainnet and your $10 node is the first one to fork? 3. why does the community have to handle it? We paid Max 6 million dollars to make it work. thats why you want to get rich with your ARK-ICO too? Because you couldn't with lisk forging? are you that frustrated with lisk that you really need a new ICO? |
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bitseedmike
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October 27, 2016, 08:04:33 PM |
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Ark and Lisk are intended for different use cases.
Lisk is being developed to run blockchain applications and provide blockchain services. Ark is a simplified version with the blockchain app functionality removed and a data field added for bridged blockchains, enabling them to store and retrieve data from the main Ark chain.
It also has a different voting system, where 1 Ark = 1 vote for 1 delegate, or is split equally among the delegates selected, so the same 1 Ark might be 1/10 of a vote for 10 delegates, or 1/50th of a vote for 50 delegates.
Ark also adds Practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance (PBFT) to pre-approve blocks for inclusion in the blockchain to prevent forks, and adds forging from uncles to decrease latency and reduce block times by allowing new blocks to be forged even when a delegate does not have the previous block included yet.
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tharude
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October 27, 2016, 09:57:35 PM |
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leave him alone Mike. This one does not deserve any kind of explanations or the time spent to answer.
The only purpose he was born for is to hate and spread fud. Don't you see that he is just a wannabe troll failed five times in a row his graduation?
Let him practice. He desperately needs it...
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thandie
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October 27, 2016, 09:58:56 PM |
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Ark and Lisk are intended for different use cases.
Lisk is being developed to run blockchain applications and provide blockchain services. Ark is a simplified version with the blockchain app functionality removed and a data field added for bridged blockchains, enabling them to store and retrieve data from the main Ark chain.
It also has a different voting system, where 1 Ark = 1 vote for 1 delegate, or is split equally among the delegates selected, so the same 1 Ark might be 1/10 of a vote for 10 delegates, or 1/50th of a vote for 50 delegates.
Ark also adds Practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance (PBFT) to pre-approve blocks for inclusion in the blockchain to prevent forks, and adds forging from uncles to decrease latency and reduce block times by allowing new blocks to be forged even when a delegate does not have the previous block included yet.
Not really. What you write is the vision, but not real at the moment. Today I had taken a look at your GitHub - there is nothing. https://github.com/arkecosystemI like your commitment. But currently the Ark Bitcointalk-Thread looks like an insider job, hyped by unhappy Lisk members and spammed by cannabanana (as here at the beginning of Lisk). |
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bitseedmike
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October 28, 2016, 01:29:44 AM |
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There are plenty of people not part of the founding team posting in the Ark thread.
The roadmap for when the above mentioned features will be added to Ark are in the roadmap.
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cannabanana
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October 28, 2016, 01:32:56 AM
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Ark and Lisk are intended for different use cases.
Lisk is being developed to run blockchain applications and provide blockchain services. Ark is a simplified version with the blockchain app functionality removed and a data field added for bridged blockchains, enabling them to store and retrieve data from the main Ark chain.
It also has a different voting system, where 1 Ark = 1 vote for 1 delegate, or is split equally among the delegates selected, so the same 1 Ark might be 1/10 of a vote for 10 delegates, or 1/50th of a vote for 50 delegates.
Ark also adds Practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance (PBFT) to pre-approve blocks for inclusion in the blockchain to prevent forks, and adds forging from uncles to decrease latency and reduce block times by allowing new blocks to be forged even when a delegate does not have the previous block included yet.
Not really. What you write is the vision, but not real at the moment. Today I had taken a look at your GitHub - there is nothing. https://github.com/arkecosystemI like your commitment. But currently the Ark Bitcointalk-Thread looks like an insider job, hyped by unhappy Lisk members and spammed by cannabanana (as here at the beginning of Lisk). we already explained why we have not released it and that it will be within this upcoming week or so. If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch! |
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nyanhtet
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October 28, 2016, 02:47:27 AM |
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Mihawk
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October 28, 2016, 03:02:03 AM
Last edit: October 02, 2018, 05:26:49 PM by Mihawk |
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or...  ? Buy Lisk to invest in Ark  |
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vanarebane
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October 28, 2016, 03:03:22 AM |
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I believe in Lisk and you?
or... ? Buy Lisk to invest in Ark Ark could boost lisk price, look incent did for waves, ark may help a lot for lisk. |
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thandie
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October 28, 2016, 07:23:23 AM |
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we already explained why we have not released it and that it will be within this upcoming week or so. If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch!
Okay. GitHub & Lisk is long ago, I don't know anymore. I could not follow the original Lisk thread. The reason was your spamming and all the trolls which quotes your GIF's! And now, you're doing the same in the Ark thread. Stop this PLEASE! |
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cannabanana
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October 28, 2016, 07:26:12 AM |
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we already explained why we have not released it and that it will be within this upcoming week or so. If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch!
Okay. GitHub & Lisk is long ago, I don't know anymore. I could not follow the original Lisk thread. The reason was your spamming and all the trolls which quotes your GIF's! And now, you're doing the same in the Ark thread. Stop this PLEASE! just hit ignore. I have a sense of humor apparently you don't have, but that also does not mean what I'm doing is wrong and that you can tell me to stop. So if that is old and you don't remember, how do you remember all the gifs I posted back in the day? that was even more of a long time ago! Stop being a hater man, ain't nobody got time for that. |
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thandie
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October 28, 2016, 07:33:48 AM |
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we already explained why we have not released it and that it will be within this upcoming week or so. If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch!
Okay. GitHub & Lisk is long ago, I don't know anymore. I could not follow the original Lisk thread. The reason was your spamming and all the trolls which quotes your GIF's! And now, you're doing the same in the Ark thread. Stop this PLEASE! just hit ignore. I have a sense of humor apparently you don't have, but that also does not mean what I'm doing is wrong and that you can tell me to stop. So if that is old and you don't remember, how do you remember all the gifs I posted back in the day? that was even more of a long time ago! You can not stand criticism? So I'm very humorous. But your "AWWW YEAH! " is not humor. It is pure spam and hype to get a lot of pages, which is not serious. |
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cannabanana
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October 28, 2016, 07:36:21 AM |
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we already explained why we have not released it and that it will be within this upcoming week or so. If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch!
Okay. GitHub & Lisk is long ago, I don't know anymore. I could not follow the original Lisk thread. The reason was your spamming and all the trolls which quotes your GIF's! And now, you're doing the same in the Ark thread. Stop this PLEASE! just hit ignore. I have a sense of humor apparently you don't have, but that also does not mean what I'm doing is wrong and that you can tell me to stop. So if that is old and you don't remember, how do you remember all the gifs I posted back in the day? that was even more of a long time ago! You can not stand criticism? So I'm very humorous. But your "AWWW YEAH! " is not humor. It is pure spam and hype to get a lot of pages, which is not serious. no, it's a real response from a feeling I had while reading his quote. I can also write whole paragraphs like I have been to you buddy. You are totally a hater, maybe I hurt your feelings or something with the truth. |
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thandie
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October 28, 2016, 07:42:02 AM |
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You are totally a hater, maybe I hurt your feelings or something with the truth.
I'm not a hater. I don't hate anyone. "Hater" is a typical phrase when a person does not have arguments. Here are many good people who understand criticism. But you obviously don't. And now you're offended? Come on  |
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cannabanana
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October 28, 2016, 07:47:39 AM |
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You are totally a hater, maybe I hurt your feelings or something with the truth.
I'm not a hater. I don't hate anyone. "Hater" is a typical argument when a person does not have arguments. Here are many good people who understand criticism. But you obviously don't. And now you're offended? Come on Uh no, a Hater is someone who hates on someone else cause they are jealous or just like to argue with others for no reason like.....gifs. Keep repeating yourself if you want the last word, I really don't care. |
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Vega
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October 28, 2016, 07:53:08 AM |
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You can not stand criticism?
So I'm very humorous.
But your "AWWW YEAH! " is not humor. It is pure spam and hype to get a lot of pages, which is not serious.
Okay, confession time. I had cannabanana on ignore since about week one of the Lisk ICO.  Because I kind of agree with you, the constant zero info hype posts annoyed me greatly. (I also tend to hit ignore as soon as someone posts more than one flashy image.) But his current post habits are far from that, IMO. Surely there are some fillers, but he is exited for the project, we have been working on ARK for a long time before we could've announced, and cannabanana put in more work than most. His post about ARK are mostly direct answers to questions asked (with answers that already there in OP, but that's another matter), so they are far from just hype. |
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thandie
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October 28, 2016, 08:00:47 AM
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@cannabanana
I do not know if you understood...?
Therefore My last words to you:
I do not hate you. I like your participation.
But I don't like your spamming. And I don't like your sound as you communicate with other people.
If people confirm your post like " yaea, to da moon", then everything is good.
But you can not handle criticism. Then your posts will become an unachievable and aggressive style, outside the contex.
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LiskHQ (OP)
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October 28, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Last edit: October 28, 2016, 08:53:35 AM by LiskHQ |
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If you wanna talk about Github, then do you remember, Lisk didn't even release their GitHub link until MAINNET Launch!
Okay. GitHub & Lisk is long ago, I don't know anymore. A quote from our first blog post ever which was published at the same second when we went public with Lisk idea (30th January). Lisk is open source since the very beginning and everything is being developed in public. To better cater for developers we started a GitHub organization and added a new documentation section to our website. https://blog.lisk.io/olivier-and-max-leave-crypti-to-establish-lisk-3fd60eb0808f#.yt4nl02aq |
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