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November 26, 2018, 05:44:14 PM
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There are a few unresolved 'issues' in regards to existing QORA coins, and what to do there... as there have been many coins lost, locked in exchanges, stolen, etc... over the turbulent life of QORA. So we have a few remaining 'hurdles' to jump in that regard, and will need to finalize a solid idea for the future there.

It would be nice if you would disclose the possible options that are being discussed, then the community could join the discussion.

My idea of how an option could look like.
There are twice as many tokens for Q2 as for Q1. One half is reserved for the previous token holders of Q1 (swap) and the other half can be sold by the ICO. The swap could be 6 or 12 months, for example. All unclaimed tokens will then be handed over to the development/marketing/project fund.
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December 01, 2018, 01:31:07 PM
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There are a few unresolved 'issues' in regards to existing QORA coins, and what to do there... as there have been many coins lost, locked in exchanges, stolen, etc... over the turbulent life of QORA. So we have a few remaining 'hurdles' to jump in that regard, and will need to finalize a solid idea for the future there.

It would be nice if you would disclose the possible options that are being discussed, then the community could join the discussion.

My idea of how an option could look like.
There are twice as many tokens for Q2 as for Q1. One half is reserved for the previous token holders of Q1 (swap) and the other half can be sold by the ICO. The swap could be 6 or 12 months, for example. All unclaimed tokens will then be handed over to the development/marketing/project fund.

Is it too much? Cry
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December 01, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
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There are a few unresolved 'issues' in regards to existing QORA coins, and what to do there... as there have been many coins lost, locked in exchanges, stolen, etc... over the turbulent life of QORA. So we have a few remaining 'hurdles' to jump in that regard, and will need to finalize a solid idea for the future there.

It would be nice if you would disclose the possible options that are being discussed, then the community could join the discussion.

My idea of how an option could look like.
There are twice as many tokens for Q2 as for Q1. One half is reserved for the previous token holders of Q1 (swap) and the other half can be sold by the ICO. The swap could be 6 or 12 months, for example. All unclaimed tokens will then be handed over to the development/marketing/project fund.

Is it too much? Cry

Well, it's not the responsibility of the project to take care of coins that have been lost or are no longer accessible by not withdrawing them from exchanges. If crypto projects had to worry about such things, there wouldn't be any progress because they just have to take care of such shortcomings. That's why I would argue for a hard cut.
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 #3324

There are a few unresolved 'issues' in regards to existing QORA coins, and what to do there... as there have been many coins lost, locked in exchanges, stolen, etc... over the turbulent life of QORA. So we have a few remaining 'hurdles' to jump in that regard, and will need to finalize a solid idea for the future there.

It would be nice if you would disclose the possible options that are being discussed, then the community could join the discussion.

My idea of how an option could look like.
There are twice as many tokens for Q2 as for Q1. One half is reserved for the previous token holders of Q1 (swap) and the other half can be sold by the ICO. The swap could be 6 or 12 months, for example. All unclaimed tokens will then be handed over to the development/marketing/project fund.

Is it too much? Cry

Well, it's not the responsibility of the project to take care of coins that have been lost or are no longer accessible by not withdrawing them from exchanges. If crypto projects had to worry about such things, there wouldn't be any progress because they just have to take care of such shortcomings. That's why I would argue for a hard cut.



I'm sure I have posted this before, but it seems not everyone has seen it...


THERE WILL BE NO SWAP FROM QORA TO ANYTHING.

We have decided instead to utilize the existing platform to create the 'exchange' that will then play a huge role in everything else QORA core code is utilized for. Thus giving value to existing QORA.




The next generation of QORA, will not be QORA per se. IT will be a new project, focused on social media utilizing a bunch of new ideas.


Existing QORA will be powered by liquidity on the markets of the 'trade portal' or 'DEX' if you want to think of it that way. Therefore it will have its own value unrelated to the next platform we build from the core code.


Gen 2 code will be used for BOTH QORA, and the next platform built from it. (Along with about 4 others that we have already been in talks with multiple clients about creating. One of which has already launched.)






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December 12, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
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Polo just closed withdraws forever

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Polo just closed withdraws forever

Did you get a message from them telling you that, or have they made a new policy announcement somewhere?
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December 23, 2018, 06:27:17 AM
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I'm sure I have posted this before, but it seems not everyone has seen it...


THERE WILL BE NO SWAP FROM QORA TO ANYTHING.

We have decided instead to utilize the existing platform to create the 'exchange' that will then play a huge role in everything else QORA core code is utilized for. Thus giving value to existing QORA......





I like the idea of proceeding without swap.

But would you mind to disclose more about how the plan will give good value to existing Qora?

If Qora core code will be utilized for a wide range of applications, existing Qora will then play a role in everything ELSE. It will imply a narrow range of applications for existing Qora itself, correct?

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January 03, 2019, 05:25:57 PM
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where to buy? Grin
I've been wondering too. Anyone know where to find reliable wallets? There were rumors of swap, has this been confirmed?

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January 26, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
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I'm sure I have posted this before, but it seems not everyone has seen it...


THERE WILL BE NO SWAP FROM QORA TO ANYTHING.

We have decided instead to utilize the existing platform to create the 'exchange' that will then play a huge role in everything else QORA core code is utilized for. Thus giving value to existing QORA......





I like the idea of proceeding without swap.

But would you mind to disclose more about how the plan will give good value to existing Qora?

If Qora core code will be utilized for a wide range of applications, existing Qora will then play a role in everything ELSE. It will imply a narrow range of applications for existing Qora itself, correct?


Yes, there will be many value-adding propositions, the main one being the turning of QORA into a decentralized trade portal. This portal will be utilized for any QORA/BTC trades, as well as trades to QORA asset, and any QORE (QORA's Gen 2 codebase nickname) clones (of which there are already multiple planned, and 1 running.

Therefore, the trade portal will be a huge value prop for QORA existing coins. The trade fees as well as the network fees for any transaction on the QORA network, will be given to the people running the chain, via a new algorithm implemented in Gen 2 QORA, called 'Proof Of Liquidity'.

With Proof Of Liquidity, the higher and larger the order on the books, the larger the user's 'weight' for obtaining of the fees on the network and the fees from exchanges.



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There have been many changes to QORA over the last few months, in terms of the direction. We are now fully firm in the decisions that...

    -THERE WILL BE NO SWAP - Existing QORA will be given value through becoming an 'exchange' (Qortal - Decentralized cross-chain trade portal) - This portal will have BTC/QORA pairs to start, other BTC clone coins added, as well as QORA assets, and all QORA clone projects created making use of this portal, all providing value to the existing coin.

     -The Generation 2 core is 'complete' and will be implemented into QORA in a timeframe soon, once a bit more communication with cat has taken place to this point.



 The decision now needs to be made in regard to the existing coin cap, and whether to increase it in the hard  fork to Gen 2 codebase.

    -The idea in support of this, would be that there are many coins that were lost when exchanges de-listed, etc... and people thought that QORA was dead. Various reasons, same result, much less QORA that is actually accessible.

     -Open to ideas and suggestions here, in regard to the above, and whether an increase of the cap is something we would like to see, and with that implementation of Proof Of Liquidity, and re-implementation of new coins coming into circulation in QORA's ecosystem.



Also, the decision on what to do regarding OpenLedger and the coins there... needs to be made.

    -Since we have had no word officially from OpenLedger, we must make up our minds on whether to give them a timeframe with which to allow users to withdrawal their coins from the platform, and/or to disallow them completely, and/or allow the people holding the QORA assets on BTS a chance to get credit somehow on Gen 2 hardfork.


Also, I am working on a new website for QORA, that includes both the direction and the ideas that will be implemented in the upcoming fork over to Gen 2 codebase. After this, I will re-do the ANN, etc.




There will be the creation of a NEW QORA-based project, as well. This project will be the one focused on Social Media, and communications, etc...


The reason for this is that the existing QORA being mined out and having issues with exchanges keeping coins, etc, makes it very difficult to utilize for the new intended purposes... therefore giving it value by creating an 'exchange' with it, then funneling all trades from all clones and assets and BTC pairs to that 'exchange' seems the most logical way forward for the existing coin. Then, creating another project utilizing all of the new ideas and functionality that comes along with the new codebase plus many many hours of coming up with the concepts and how they will function, is simply what we think is the best option.

We are, of course, open to suggestions, as NO ONE OWNS QORA. We are simply the team helping the development, and remind you that WE WERE NOT PART OF THE INITIAL ICO at all. Therefore we have not made ANYTHING from our work, and I myself have put countless hours and 120+ thousand USD into the platform. All without expectation of anyone to give me anything. I simply believe in the platform, and am excited to see both the trade portal, and the communications/social media/community platform creation and use.

2019 should be a very exciting year for everyone involved with QORA, or any clone that comes from the QORA codebase. A tremendous amount of effort has gone into this, and we're soon to see the fruits of our labor, and the fruits for those who have waited and kept up on the situation. Here's to a great year!



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January 26, 2019, 08:12:20 PM
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where to buy? Grin
I've been wondering too. Anyone know where to find reliable wallets? There were rumors of swap, has this been confirmed?


As far as where to buy, the only way to do this right now that is reliable and REAL, is to do so OTC. There is a trade channel in the discord server - https://discord.gg/xcW4Ngp



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Nice post! Informative, giving an overview of where we are, what we need and what needs consideration. Awesome!
Regarding the supply: of course some is lost, maybe even quite a bit. But there's still holders from early on who hold since years. I wouldn't dilute their supply by changing the amount, but better leave it as-is. The supply will get distributed again once the new QORA gains traction, and I think it would only be fair to consider the now smaller supply kind of a reward for those who believed in the project all the time, 2 years after the delisting. Smiley

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I've been wondering too. Anyone know where to find reliable wallets? There were rumors of swap, has this been confirmed?


As far as where to buy, the only way to do this right now that is reliable and REAL, is to do so OTC. There is a trade channel in the discord server - https://discord.gg/xcW4Ngp
As Crowe said: if anyone wants to buy a few, there are people in the channel who are willing to sell some. I also have a few coins left for selling, just ask in the trading channel on Discord. Smiley

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February 03, 2019, 11:54:24 PM
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<snip>
Nice post! Informative, giving an overview of where we are, what we need and what needs consideration. Awesome!
Regarding the supply: of course some is lost, maybe even quite a bit. But there's still holders from early on who hold since years. I wouldn't dilute their supply by changing the amount, but better leave it as-is. The supply will get distributed again once the new QORA gains traction, and I think it would only be fair to consider the now smaller supply kind of a reward for those who believed in the project all the time, 2 years after the delisting. Smiley

where to buy? Grin
I've been wondering too. Anyone know where to find reliable wallets? There were rumors of swap, has this been confirmed?


As far as where to buy, the only way to do this right now that is reliable and REAL, is to do so OTC. There is a trade channel in the discord server - https://discord.gg/xcW4Ngp
As Crowe said: if anyone wants to buy a few, there are people in the channel who are willing to sell some. I also have a few coins left for selling, just ask in the trading channel on Discord. Smiley


I tend to agree here in terms of the cap. However, I would really like to figure out how many of the coins that are on the explorer, are actually 'live'. So that we have a better idea of what to place the 'fees' and such on the portal, etc...

But yes, the ones who have not only held trust in QORA and belief that the team and I will be able to accomplish what we said, but managed to get their coins into a wallet from the exchange, thus showing enough care to do so... should definitely be the ones that are rewarded.


I think yea, we should not touch the cap. If anyone disagrees with this, let us know. But if I don't get any disagreements I think that will be the idea we'll go with.


Also - What is your opinion on the existing coins in the poloniex wallet, and what to do about that... I think that they do not  deserve to be put over to the new core, and the fact that they were staking other people's money and keeping it, is not okay... So I think removing the polo wallet from acceptance in terms of moving to the new core, is what I would prefer.





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February 14, 2019, 06:12:28 AM
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Nice post! Informative, giving an overview of where we are, what we need and what needs consideration. Awesome!
Regarding the supply: of course some is lost, maybe even quite a bit. But there's still holders from early on who hold since years. I wouldn't dilute their supply by changing the amount, but better leave it as-is. The supply will get distributed again once the new QORA gains traction, and I think it would only be fair to consider the now smaller supply kind of a reward for those who believed in the project all the time, 2 years after the delisting. Smiley

where to buy? Grin
I've been wondering too. Anyone know where to find reliable wallets? There were rumors of swap, has this been confirmed?


As far as where to buy, the only way to do this right now that is reliable and REAL, is to do so OTC. There is a trade channel in the discord server - https://discord.gg/xcW4Ngp
As Crowe said: if anyone wants to buy a few, there are people in the channel who are willing to sell some. I also have a few coins left for selling, just ask in the trading channel on Discord. Smiley


I tend to agree here in terms of the cap. However, I would really like to figure out how many of the coins that are on the explorer, are actually 'live'. So that we have a better idea of what to place the 'fees' and such on the portal, etc...

But yes, the ones who have not only held trust in QORA and belief that the team and I will be able to accomplish what we said, but managed to get their coins into a wallet from the exchange, thus showing enough care to do so... should definitely be the ones that are rewarded.


I think yea, we should not touch the cap. If anyone disagrees with this, let us know. But if I don't get any disagreements I think that will be the idea we'll go with.


Also - What is your opinion on the existing coins in the poloniex wallet, and what to do about that... I think that they do not  deserve to be put over to the new core, and the fact that they were staking other people's money and keeping it, is not okay... So I think removing the polo wallet from acceptance in terms of moving to the new core, is what I would prefer.

In my opinion as you said we should noit touch max supply but we must have to know these points





Also - What is your opinion on the existing coins in the poloniex wallet, and what to do about that... I think that they do not  deserve to be put over to the new core, and the fact that they were staking other people's money and keeping it, is not okay... So I think removing the polo wallet from acceptance in terms of moving to the new core, is what I would prefer.

In my opinion as you said we should not touch max supply but we must have to know these points

  • 1 : How many genuine guys are out there holding qora , believing in qora , and how much supply is with them
  • 2 : Filter dead supply of Qora in new chain so we can offer that supply in minting and rewards
  • 3 : kick out poloniex spammers as what they did with old Qora
  • 4 : we must keep development fund and airdrop(if possible) as this will help us to bring strong community on board
  • 5 : some reward to users according to their coin holding amount and for how long they are holding

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 Reddit Update

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qora_Official/comments/aqifm6/update_14_jan_2019/     Kiss

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In my opinion as you said we should not touch max supply but we must have to know these points

  • 1 : How many genuine guys are out there holding qora , believing in qora , and how much supply is with them
  • 2 : Filter dead supply of Qora in new chain so we can offer that supply in minting and rewards
  • 3 : kick out poloniex spammers as what they did with old Qora
  • 4 : we must keep development fund and airdrop(if possible) as this will help us to bring strong community on board
  • 5 : some reward to users according to their coin holding amount and for how long they are holding

1. Doesn't matter
2. Too subjective to be done right
3. Make friends not enemies
4. Plan for coin rookies, not for experienced coins
5. No need, it will come when QORA reaches exchanges again

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February 16, 2019, 04:52:03 PM
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I need to synchronize my wallet from beginning. Is there a more recent blockchain download as the given one in the opening post?

I talk about this one from August 2016
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Update: the blockchain download file was not found. Link is dead.
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February 17, 2019, 06:39:36 PM
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this is probably the last version of the wallet https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases
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February 17, 2019, 07:04:28 PM
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this is probably the last version of the wallet https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora/releases

It is the latest. I am wondering why that version was announced on Reddit three days ago, however the Github release date of that version is 26th September 2018.

Nevertheless, I am still looking for a blockchain download. Synchronization stopped at 418479. Added all peers I could find in the last 10 pages of this thread.
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In reply to one of the questions above.

I am one of those persons holding a nice bag of Qora and check here often for updates.
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In reply to one of the questions above.

I am one of those persons holding a nice bag of Qora and check here often for updates.

How big is your bag?   Smiley

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