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August 18, 2016, 11:03:52 PM
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I don't think a regular citizen or person in the EU would care that much or anything at all... if you ask me, EU has turned into siht, started ok with the trade freedom but now it went astray...

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April 04, 2017, 04:55:15 AM
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

I support science and technology development. It is probably impossible to think an opposite here, on bitcointalk.org forum.
European Union is a great project, the start for the globalisation, which we can and we should support.
All immigration and other issues, coming from globalisation can be fixed technologically, but not politically.
Traditional politics should give way to technologies.

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April 04, 2017, 09:45:33 AM
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Ah, I remember this thread.  Not sure if the bump was actually worth it, but since it already happened:

Firstly, I am not a European citizens so my opinion might be inaccurate. As far as I know, Britain economy does benefit from the free movement as it provide it with free labors who come from east.
Also leaving the EU will not be good for exporting goods from Britain to the rest of EU because there will be taxes
mass immigration from poorer countries does not benefit us, it lowers wages and raises rents

the question was why do we need a parliament and courts and all the other nonsense to be able to trade with each other


We don't.

It's just this little thing, don't know if you heard of it, it's called WWII. And after that, the European governments decided it might be cool to have something a little bit stronger than a simple free trade zone. Something that makes all the european countries allies. So be stronger together.

It's laughable that as soon as we trigger leaving, the old guard right-wingers start crawling out of the woodwork, publicly airing their wet dreams and fantasies of a war with Spain over the sovereignty of Gibraltar.  It's pretty much indicative of the mentality of most leavers.  They still genuinely believe Britain is some sort of grand empire that will simply conquer other nations at the drop of a hat.  It's pathetic.

Quote from: the Guardian article
“It is unbelievable that within a week of triggering article 50 there are Conservatives already discussing potential wars with our European neighbours.

“In only a few days the Conservative right are turning long term allies into potential enemies. I hope this isn’t a sign of the government’s approach to the long negotiations to come.”

He claimed Brexiters had gone from cheering to “sabre-rattling for war” within four days. “It is absolutely ludicrous and totally inflammatory.”

We were stronger together, but now that we aren't, all the nutjobs and crackpots see the chance to voice their insanity in an environment they deem more accommodating toward violence, divisiveness and warmongering.  I suspect this sort of thing is just the tip of a big scary iceberg.  All aboard the fascism train!  Destination: Fucked.

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April 04, 2017, 10:10:11 AM
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

I support science and technology development. It is probably impossible to think an opposite here, on bitcointalk.org forum.
European Union is a great project, the start for the globalisation, which we can and we should support.
All immigration and other issues, coming from globalisation can be fixed technologically, but not politically.
Traditional politics should give way to technologies.
Globalization brings additional opportunities in the cat market expansion, sales and marketing, but at the cost of sovereignty. The UK is not accustomed to obey, and in the EU it is not possible. The migrant crisis has become the last reason for brexit. I believe that the migrants expensive price for the UK.
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April 04, 2017, 10:26:10 AM
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
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April 04, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
I think that refugees need to be taken only in case if they face prosecution by the state for the opposition to power. In all other cases people should defend their country. Why encourage the traitors?
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April 04, 2017, 11:36:26 AM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 01:46:10 PM by DooMAD
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
I think that refugees need to be taken only in case if they face prosecution by the state for the opposition to power. In all other cases people should defend their country. Why encourage the traitors?

Please enlighten us as to how you would "defend" from air strikes if you're just an ordinary person?  Take this particular example from last week in Mosul.  If those people had fled, they may still be alive.  And even if you had survived that, what would you have left materially?  You would need to go somewhere else and start again, so it's understandable that you might want to rebuild your new life somewhere far away from the conflict that just took everything from you.  

Are people on the internet even capable of empathy?  Come to think of it, "people" is probably too generous a word in your case.  You're demonstrating some sub-human tendencies there.  I mean, traitors?  Seriously?  As if loyalty to some arbitrary borders you happen to reside in is somehow a priority considering what some refugees have been through.  These people want to live, you ignorant asshat.

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April 04, 2017, 11:42:13 AM
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It seems the European Union dictated to the British people about what and what not to do and being once a world super power and also proud nation. They didn't want that any longer. Even the Queen supported Brexit. They made their choices overwhelmingly.
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April 04, 2017, 01:33:50 PM
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I think it will be the best for the UK to quit from EU. Especially now with all these refuges and all these bad things that happen there, almost every day. They have to be like they were a few years ago, a strong country, who is one of the biggest economies in the world.
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April 04, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

The rest of the world could give a shit what happens to the UK and the EU.
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April 04, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
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I don't live in Europe so I can't tell if anything positive would come out of this but one thing's for certain, EU will make the divorce painful for UK. It seems UK has been a bit skeptical with joining it in the first place anyway, for example they haven't even adopted the euro. Provided that UK manage to renegotiate favorable trade deals I don't really see them being weakened a lot.

The main problem is that parts and territories of the UK wanted to stay in the EU. Scotland for example has aired displeasure at Brexit and could attempt another referendum. Gibraltar (I dunno if they can vote to leave UK) has also expressed desire to stay.
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April 04, 2017, 03:42:17 PM
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The UK felt they were being governed by Germany when they were in the European Union, and the UK has no love for the Germans at all. look at how Angela Merkel just single handedly allow all the refugees into the country and i know that the UK were strongly against the influx of refugees into the country.
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April 04, 2017, 04:55:13 PM
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The UK felt they were being governed by Germany when they were in the European Union, and the UK has no love for the Germans at all. look at how Angela Merkel just single handedly allow all the refugees into the country and i know that the UK were strongly against the influx of refugees into the country.
I also think that the decision to let the EU of refugees was not just disastrous for the EU, and it seems to me that this decision was bought by Putin. It's a diversion. I would not be surprised if someday it turns out that Angela Merkel recruited.
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April 04, 2017, 06:31:54 PM
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Ah, I remember this thread.  Not sure if the bump was actually worth it, but since it already happened:

Firstly, I am not a European citizens so my opinion might be inaccurate. As far as I know, Britain economy does benefit from the free movement as it provide it with free labors who come from east.
Also leaving the EU will not be good for exporting goods from Britain to the rest of EU because there will be taxes
mass immigration from poorer countries does not benefit us, it lowers wages and raises rents

the question was why do we need a parliament and courts and all the other nonsense to be able to trade with each other


We don't.

It's just this little thing, don't know if you heard of it, it's called WWII. And after that, the European governments decided it might be cool to have something a little bit stronger than a simple free trade zone. Something that makes all the european countries allies. So be stronger together.

It's laughable that as soon as we trigger leaving, the old guard right-wingers start crawling out of the woodwork, publicly airing their wet dreams and fantasies of a war with Spain over the sovereignty of Gibraltar.  It's pretty much indicative of the mentality of most leavers.  They still genuinely believe Britain is some sort of grand empire that will simply conquer other nations at the drop of a hat.  It's pathetic.

Quote from: the Guardian article
“It is unbelievable that within a week of triggering article 50 there are Conservatives already discussing potential wars with our European neighbours.

“In only a few days the Conservative right are turning long term allies into potential enemies. I hope this isn’t a sign of the government’s approach to the long negotiations to come.”

He claimed Brexiters had gone from cheering to “sabre-rattling for war” within four days. “It is absolutely ludicrous and totally inflammatory.”

We were stronger together, but now that we aren't, all the nutjobs and crackpots see the chance to voice their insanity in an environment they deem more accommodating toward violence, divisiveness and warmongering.  I suspect this sort of thing is just the tip of a big scary iceberg.  All aboard the fascism train!  Destination: Fucked.

Welcome to the new Great Hate Britain.  
Your not British ..Your a half blood   < blame harry potter Grin

The Eu told Spain they can have Gibraltar if they so wish..

The EU BETTER  YES BETTER SHUT IT'S MOUTH Angry..

We will show you our might IF ANY MF PUSHES US Wink Angry..

We British are in no mood for anyone to be spoiling our NEW LEASE OF LIFE ..

We have been set free to sail the world for trade Grin..

It's not about the European people   it's about a gang of European politicians robbing the British..
And about 100 British politicians are all getting back handers from the EU from our taxes..
I.E LINING THERE OWN POCKETS Wink..

Why do we have to pay middle men to trade..The EU bunch of robbing middle men..

The law is made by the country?  So who made the EU BOSS of the people of EUROPE? Angry Angry
Because YOUR NOT MY BOSS AND YOU NEVER WILL BE..

So half blood PACK YOUR BAGS ..You are a disgrace to the British people Grin.

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April 04, 2017, 07:01:51 PM
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The UK felt they were being governed by Germany when they were in the European Union, and the UK has no love for the Germans at all. look at how Angela Merkel just single handedly allow all the refugees into the country and i know that the UK were strongly against the influx of refugees into the country.
I also think that the decision to let the EU of refugees was not just disastrous for the EU, and it seems to me that this decision was bought by Putin. It's a diversion. I would not be surprised if someday it turns out that Angela Merkel recruited.
Unlike Germany, Hungary and some other countries are introducing stricter plans for refugees. It turns out that someone gets it, but Germany does not. Perhaps this is really a plan to put Europe on its knees.
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April 06, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
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You call them parasites because you're happy to tar entire nations with the actions of a minority.  It's all prejudice, scapegoats, intolerance and discrimination with you.  It'll be clear to anyone reading your posts who the real parasite is.  As for "exploiting" countries' resources it's a drop in the ocean compared to what British colonialism accomplished, so quit your nimby whining.

The EU immigrants are only around 2% or 3% of the British population. But they are behind the vast majority of the incidents of welfare fraud in the United Kingdom (especially those from Romania and Poland). So it is very appropriate to call them parasites.

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April 06, 2017, 11:25:52 AM
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You call them parasites because you're happy to tar entire nations with the actions of a minority.  It's all prejudice, scapegoats, intolerance and discrimination with you.  It'll be clear to anyone reading your posts who the real parasite is.  As for "exploiting" countries' resources it's a drop in the ocean compared to what British colonialism accomplished, so quit your nimby whining.

The EU immigrants are only around 2% or 3% of the British population. But they are behind the vast majority of the incidents of welfare fraud in the United Kingdom (especially those from Romania and Poland). So it is very appropriate to call them parasites.
All of the country when it was part of the Soviet sphere of influence. The heavy legacy of the past. For me this is another confirmation of the advantages of Western civilization over Eastern. The economy now I do not take into account.
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April 06, 2017, 01:43:37 PM
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To to user that said that the EU is another german reich, a fourth reich - really? That's the best idea you've come up with? Jesus. Look at all the benefits: a single type on money - the euro, open borders.  A new reich? Unbelievable.
The UK thought it was too much work and chickened out.

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April 06, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
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In my opinion, it's meaningless question really.
UK citizens already decided in a referendum to leave the EU.
Politicians can't change this decision any more.
The only key issue now is the future political and economic agreement between UK and EU.
It remains to be seen if politicians will come to an agreement that the UK remains part of the common European market.
All other issues are secondary and less important.
UK will not return to the EU, and it's pointless to waste time on such discussions.


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April 06, 2017, 04:07:26 PM
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To to user that said that the EU is another german reich, a fourth reich - really? That's the best idea you've come up with? Jesus. Look at all the benefits: a single type on money - the euro, open borders.  A new reich? Unbelievable.
The UK thought it was too much work and chickened out.

The eu is working out great for the Greek, Italian and French economies lol.

Single currency great - if all economies are equal but in the real world there is too much disparity.

Chicken out? The Greeks bottled it, the UK is the first to stand up and say enough is enough.  Others will soon follow.
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