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August 09, 2017, 01:41:54 PM
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hello, just wanted to ask if there is an online waves wallet? or should i got for the local wallet?

Yes, there is an official online Waves wallet:
https://waveswallet.io/
whats the difference between the two, I've used both its exactly the same, I'm guessing downloading the wallet is moe secure then the web
it's universally true that if you store the data locally there are less chances that your data will be stolen. However, it's all dependant on your opsec... if I don't need to access the account every day (if it's a HODL account) then I just have the private key and address stored somewhere secure and that's that. No need for wallet.
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August 09, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
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Anyone that supports waves should take a look at and invest in oceanlab ico. What they are doing benefits us all. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2055232.msg20499554#msg20499554

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August 09, 2017, 01:54:17 PM
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Isn't it better for the coin to have limitless capacity?

No that is the problem with fiat money.  You may benefit from doing some reading on basic economics.


Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?
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August 09, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
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since none of the waves faucets really working,
then I tried wavesmine's jump start deal, and... turned out the same
I'm getting this message
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Unfortunately, you didn't qualify for the jump start. Reasons can be, that your WAVES balance is at least 0.003 WAVES, you don't own any assets like BTC or ETH for trading or you already used our service. If all this is not the case, please contact us via the email address shown below and send us your WAVES address. Thanks!
did someone already claim from my ip? because I've never claimed before and my balance is still 0
or do I need to have some BTC or ETH balance in my wallet to be eligible?

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August 09, 2017, 02:29:44 PM
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since none of the waves faucets really working,
then I tried wavesmine's jump start deal, and... turned out the same
I'm getting this message
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Unfortunately, you didn't qualify for the jump start. Reasons can be, that your WAVES balance is at least 0.003 WAVES, you don't own any assets like BTC or ETH for trading or you already used our service. If all this is not the case, please contact us via the email address shown below and send us your WAVES address. Thanks!
did someone already claim from my ip? because I've never claimed before and my balance is still 0
or do I need to have some BTC or ETH balance in my wallet to be eligible?

Yes, like it's stated. It works only, if you have got BTC, ETH, USD or EUR in your wallet.
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August 09, 2017, 02:48:23 PM
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since none of the waves faucets really working,
then I tried wavesmine's jump start deal, and... turned out the same
I'm getting this message
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Unfortunately, you didn't qualify for the jump start. Reasons can be, that your WAVES balance is at least 0.003 WAVES, you don't own any assets like BTC or ETH for trading or you already used our service. If all this is not the case, please contact us via the email address shown below and send us your WAVES address. Thanks!
did someone already claim from my ip? because I've never claimed before and my balance is still 0
or do I need to have some BTC or ETH balance in my wallet to be eligible?
Same situation here. Mine is a wallet with 0 balances for  every coin including ETH and BTC. I will transfer some BTC and will give another try.
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August 09, 2017, 03:06:07 PM
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I see that english topic members don't know an interesting story told in russian one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.12162 you can google translate it)

A guy said that you can not believe him (and he himself would not do it, but still)

He had problems with health and doctors could not help him. His friend told him about one old woman-extrasens who could find lost people etc. And some time past he visited her

She didnt't help him with his health but gave an advice on who to visit and what to do (and after all the situation started becoming better)

Then she told him his wife would get a job offer soon (and it happened) and started speaking about money though he didn't ask. He had some problems and wanted to sell his 200 waves. And she said "Dont sell your money machine, Sasha with a blue sun will make you happy and rich, but you will have another wife and as an old man you will live in prosperity in a country of a rising sun"

Blue sun = waves logo

Surely he didn't tell her about waves or Sasha before it

It may seem very strange, but he claimed it is true)) Many people laughed saying it's Sasha's grandma and her bounty campaign but some people bought more waves))
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August 09, 2017, 03:12:24 PM
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I see that english topic members don't know an interesting story told in russian one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.12162 you can google translate it)

A guy said that you can not believe him (and he himself would not do it, but still)

He had problems with health and doctors could not help him. His friend told him about one old woman-extrasens who could find lost people etc. And some time past he visited her

She didnt't help him with his health but gave an advice on who to visit and what to do (and after all the situation started becoming better)

Then she told him his wife would get a job offer soon (and it happened) and started speaking about money though he didn't ask. He had some problems and wanted to sell his 200 waves. And she said "Dont sell your money machine, Sasha with a blue sun will make you happy and rich, but you will have another wife and as an old man you will live in prosperity in a country of a rising sun"

Blue sun = waves logo

Surely he didn't tell her about waves or Sasha before it

It may seem very strange, but he claimed it is true)) Many people laughed saying it's Sasha's grandma and her bounty campaign but some people bought more waves))
Nice story! If 200 WAVES can guarantee him a prosperous future, I am quitting my job tomorrow as I have to plan on what to do with my 1000 WAVES.
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August 09, 2017, 03:14:10 PM
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I see that english topic members don't know an interesting story told in russian one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.12162 you can google translate it)

A guy said that you can not believe him (and he himself would not do it, but still)

He had problems with health and doctors could not help him. His friend told him about one old woman-extrasens who could find lost people etc. And some time past he visited her

She didnt't help him with his health but gave an advice on who to visit and what to do (and after all the situation started becoming better)

Then she told him his wife would get a job offer soon (and it happened) and started speaking about money though he didn't ask. He had some problems and wanted to sell his 200 waves. And she said "Dont sell your money machine, Sasha with a blue sun will make you happy and rich, but you will have another wife and as an old man you will live in prosperity in a country of a rising sun"

Blue sun = waves logo

Surely he didn't tell her about waves or Sasha before it

It may seem very strange, but he claimed it is true)) Many people laughed saying it's Sasha's grandma and her bounty campaign but some people bought more waves))

True or not - it's in any case lovely! Smiley
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August 09, 2017, 03:14:11 PM
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Sasha выступит с лекцией: “Что такое блокчейн и почему вокруг него такой хайп?”

https://twitter.com/EvelinaLavrova/status/895215143587643392

Oceanlab: A Community-Based Project for Waves-based apps

https://twitter.com/coremedia_info/status/895293225778499584

$100 Million: Putin Advisor Targets Big Raise for Bitcoin Mining ICO

https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/894949757776416768

Первый проект ICO-генератора ПАРТИИ РОСТА выходит на ICO

https://twitter.com/partrost/status/894936369247776769

"Just distributed 877 WAVES and 2000 WGO to our Waves Wiki contributors, thanks for the support!"

https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/894949943055699972

WAVES has reached 55k+ funded accounts and 81k+ total accounts!

https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/894970990471643136


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August 09, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
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I see that english topic members don't know an interesting story told in russian one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.12162 you can google translate it)

A guy said that you can not believe him (and he himself would not do it, but still)

He had problems with health and doctors could not help him. His friend told him about one old woman-extrasens who could find lost people etc. And some time past he visited her

She didnt't help him with his health but gave an advice on who to visit and what to do (and after all the situation started becoming better)

Then she told him his wife would get a job offer soon (and it happened) and started speaking about money though he didn't ask. He had some problems and wanted to sell his 200 waves. And she said "Dont sell your money machine, Sasha with a blue sun will make you happy and rich, but you will have another wife and as an old man you will live in prosperity in a country of a rising sun"

Blue sun = waves logo

Surely he didn't tell her about waves or Sasha before it

It may seem very strange, but he claimed it is true)) Many people laughed saying it's Sasha's grandma and her bounty campaign but some people bought more waves))

What a stupid story
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August 09, 2017, 03:38:48 PM
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Nice story! If 200 WAVES can guarantee him a prosperous future, I am quitting my job tomorrow as I have to plan on what to do with my 1000 WAVES.

200 btc can))) though it depends, it is not that Super big amount of money))
Maybe in 2027 1 Waves would be like 1 btc now, after some big legal companies launch their ico)))
wet dreams lol)))
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August 09, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
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Any way to dump all those worthless coins without paying 0.003 waves fee??  Selling fee is higher than the coin value? 
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August 09, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)

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August 09, 2017, 04:12:25 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)

decimals are ok, people get used to everything. You won't say "bitcoin" in 10 years (if bitcoin is ok then). You will say "satoshi" because 1 bitcoin will be too high for everyday expenditures. Same with other currencies
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August 09, 2017, 04:14:23 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

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August 09, 2017, 04:30:17 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

I dont want more junk assets that cost more money in fees to sell them than to keep them filling up my wallet.
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August 09, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
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"Added several useful features to $WAVES Lite Client. Also fixed a pack of bugs. And added 25 verified assets. Enjoy"

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311917560025089

https://twitter.com/xenohuntero/status/895311939496288256

В рамках ICO-Hypethon с лекцией выступит основатель Bitcoin Foundation Джон Матонис

https://twitter.com/afisha/status/895278577540845568

I dont want more junk assets that cost more money in fees to sell them than to keep them filling up my wallet.

I think soon you can hide them in the Lite Client.
For now, ignore unwanted tokens.

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August 09, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
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Well, you imply as if there is consensus on this, but there isn't. Most of the economic community is torn between this being either a good thing or a bad thing. I understand that Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper proposed we go back to a limit system, and I don't disagree. When it's regarding money. But I don't see Waves as a currency, at least not in the long run. Not in the same way that Bitcoins, Monero, etc. are considered.
What makes the limited supply a good thing regarding a token platform like Waves?

Well I think there is quite a strong consensus on it in the cryptocurrency community. 

I think it makes sense from a valuation perspective but I think I understand what you are saying i.e. that if there is restricted supply then at some future point WAVES may become so expensive that it is difficult to do the things that are the purpose of the token? 

I think that is already becoming an issue with ETH.  Not sure there is a perfect solution.

It is kind of paradox.  You need something to have value in the markets to get the attention it needs to reach critical mass and be used. Restricted supply helps to do that but as you imply it may create inertia in the future.

One way is to constantly adjust fees (e.g. for transactions or token creation etc) but people are generally not good at dealing with decimals.

Interesting discussion.  Thank you:)
Yes, the crypto community seems to be in agreement. But less we forget, our community is still really small. Not that size implies wisdom.

Yes, that is what I was saying. If I'm completely honest, I'm having a hard time even imagining all the possibilities of token platforms like ethereum and waves. But surely, we are in the early 90's discussing the possibilities of the internet, giving examples of sending mail in minutes instead of weeks, not realizing what beast the internet will become in 25 years.

That is why I think there should be a lot of thought put in on a scale in 20-30 years time. Just look at bitcoin. It wasn't really built for this scale. And this scale is small in comparison to the number of users it's going to have in 5 years time.
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August 09, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
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Could someone help me to find Wave attachment to transfer ZRcoin to my Waves client?
Where should I look for it?

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