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August 24, 2017, 04:52:27 PM
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Is it true that waves team can delete a token if they want to?
I've read this earlier today from other thread for which they said WAVES isn't decentralized at all. There would be a chaos if this happen but its possible, isn't it?

You have to separate 2 things:

-> the infrastructure: Waves Nodes, Matcher, API, blockchain, tokens

-> services on the Waves infrastructure: DEX, Waves Lite client, Gravit.ws, WavesGo, (fiat) gateways

The infrastructure is decentralized, once a token is created it can't be deleted.

The services can choose what to verify or what tokens to accept.

As Magnet said, you can create an exchange on the Waves infrastructure, accept only tokens (or a token) you like and be your own boss.
You can even start a "random coin or currency" gateway to the Waves platform.

All you need is a node, matcher and use the API to communicate with your own created exchange or service (both can be an app or a website).

So, yes, it's fully decentralized but services on it don't necessarily have to be.

And that's understandable when you run a business, you don't want it to be destroyed by scammers or extremists.

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August 24, 2017, 04:56:08 PM
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August 24, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
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Is it true that waves team can delete a token if they want to?
I've read this earlier today from other thread for which they said WAVES isn't decentralized at all. There would be a chaos if this happen but its possible, isn't it?

Tokens can't be deleted, they exist on the blockchain forever.

For the Waves DEX, 2 things are centralized:
- verified tokens
- delisting of tokens like "NaziCoin", "IsisCoin" or "HitlerCoin" from DEX

But...

You can setup your own "matcher" node and API, start your own exchange and trade whatever token you like.

So... is it decentralized? If you choose to use the Waves services like DEX, some things are centralized, it's a business, they have to protect it.

But they can't delete a token, they can't take tokens from you and trades are decentralized, coins stay in your own wallet until an order is (partially) filled.
And every service they run, can be created by third party (even you) too. Some work right now, some in the near future when the API gets more advanced.

Thanks for clearing that up. I don't have much WAVES actually but I have kept its for months already and if I sell now, I'd be profiting from it but I'd have to believe what could happen when the DEX will fully be functional in the next years.

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August 24, 2017, 09:39:58 PM
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"When Will the Cryptobubble Burst?" panel discussion moderated by Mike Butcher on FutureInTech

https://twitter.com/EvelinaLavrova/status/900729922372730880

Microsoft Azure Bringing Blockchain Closer To Real World Use

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Processing Ethereum deposits from smart-contracts addresses. Read more:

https://twitter.com/twiggysmile/status/900829926290583554

Burger King Goes Crypto? Rumors Of Whoppercoin

https://twitter.com/coremedia_info/status/900807156986855424

Waves Lite Client v0.4.37 released: Verified Whoppercoin, fixes

https://twitter.com/coremedia_info/status/900834474879004674




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August 24, 2017, 11:48:16 PM
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@dbc23

Pretty much agree with your points. However I do remember when things like ASIC resistance, difficulty retargeting, Android wallets and even country specific coins were USPs that resulted in huge marketcaps for months if not years and how, now, many of these have faded. I agree that DEX is core and vital but a platform should not be a one trick pony. I think gateways, fiat or otherwise, contracts etc are very important. (funnily enough, given my above post, not so much anonymous - would rather see some solid third party run gateways to anon coins)
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August 24, 2017, 11:51:03 PM
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every day i watxh this thread and i´m everyday very impressed. this coin is truly amazing.

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August 25, 2017, 12:27:58 AM
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@dbc23

Pretty much agree with your points. However I do remember when things like ASIC resistance, difficulty retargeting, Android wallets and even country specific coins were USPs that resulted in huge marketcaps for months if not years and how, now, many of these have faded. I agree that DEX is core and vital but a platform should not be a one trick pony. I think gateways, fiat or otherwise, contracts etc are very important. (funnily enough, given my above post, not so much anonymous - would rather see some solid third party run gateways to anon coins)

Yes but DEX is and will be an eternal business. If you get it right, that's like a real oil spring. But ultimately you are correct, having various things in the pipeline seriously can't hurt.

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August 25, 2017, 12:32:01 AM
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every day i watxh this thread and i´m everyday very impressed. this coin is truly amazing.
Same here. I am very impressed with the commitment of Waves team and community with this project. I really believe we can reach 10 usd until end of the year or more.
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August 25, 2017, 02:59:24 AM
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this coin is a sleeping giant, it will pump x10 or more when people realise what this is capable of

yolo
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August 25, 2017, 08:49:11 AM
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Sorry guys is it possible to have multisig wallet on Waves? I think Sasha is making a huge work here with WAVES and cryptos in general and I am sure it will shine very soon.

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August 25, 2017, 11:35:18 AM
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On the Waves platform I saw that there are tokens with the same name.  Undecided I think this is not good. I do not understand why the name is not unique.

It's not a real world problem, verified tokens have a green checkmark

It looks like they verified the wrong Whoppercoin!

1 Whoppercoin for 1 BTC WTF!!!!!

There is another Whoppercoin where 1 Whoppercoin = 1 sats  Grin

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August 25, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
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I'd happily mine Whoppercoins ^______^
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August 25, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
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Is it true that waves team can delete a token if they want to?
I've read this earlier today from other thread for which they said WAVES isn't decentralized at all. There would be a chaos if this happen but its possible, isn't it?

You have to separate 2 things:

-> the infrastructure: Waves Nodes, Matcher, API, blockchain, tokens

-> services on the Waves infrastructure: DEX, Waves Lite client, Gravit.ws, WavesGo, (fiat) gateways

The infrastructure is decentralized, once a token is created it can't be deleted.

The services can choose what to verify or what tokens to accept.

As Magnet said, you can create an exchange on the Waves infrastructure, accept only tokens (or a token) you like and be your own boss.
You can even start a "random coin or currency" gateway to the Waves platform.

All you need is a node, matcher and use the API to communicate with your own created exchange or service (both can be an app or a website).

So, yes, it's fully decentralized but services on it don't necessarily have to be.

And that's understandable when you run a business, you don't want it to be destroyed by scammers or extremists.

Hi all, noob question: what's the difference between Dex and waves liteclient? I'm using thr chrome app, what am I missing? Because I don't see all the tokens that people talk about






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August 25, 2017, 01:08:13 PM
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Is it true that waves team can delete a token if they want to?
I've read this earlier today from other thread for which they said WAVES isn't decentralized at all. There would be a chaos if this happen but its possible, isn't it?

You have to separate 2 things:

-> the infrastructure: Waves Nodes, Matcher, API, blockchain, tokens

-> services on the Waves infrastructure: DEX, Waves Lite client, Gravit.ws, WavesGo, (fiat) gateways

The infrastructure is decentralized, once a token is created it can't be deleted.

The services can choose what to verify or what tokens to accept.

As Magnet said, you can create an exchange on the Waves infrastructure, accept only tokens (or a token) you like and be your own boss.
You can even start a "random coin or currency" gateway to the Waves platform.

All you need is a node, matcher and use the API to communicate with your own created exchange or service (both can be an app or a website).

So, yes, it's fully decentralized but services on it don't necessarily have to be.

And that's understandable when you run a business, you don't want it to be destroyed by scammers or extremists.

Hi all, noob question: what's the difference between Dex and waves liteclient? I'm using thr chrome app, what am I missing? Because I don't see all the tokens that people talk about

Hi,

Dex is one of the functions of Waves Lite Client.
There are others top of the window Smiley
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August 25, 2017, 01:18:18 PM
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On the Waves platform I saw that there are tokens with the same name.  Undecided I think this is not good. I do not understand why the name is not unique.

It's not a real world problem, verified tokens have a green checkmark

It looks like they verified the wrong Whoppercoin!

1 Whoppercoin for 1 BTC WTF!!!!!

There is another Whoppercoin where 1 Whoppercoin = 1 sats  Grin

I'm disappointed that Sasha is tweeting about this garbage whopercoins seriously. He better start working more intensly on the dex since it's still look like 30 year old Exchange system. DEX still needs tons of improvements, and there is no news for this so far.
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August 25, 2017, 01:58:03 PM
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Any News or why did it go up right now?
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August 25, 2017, 02:02:08 PM
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Waves Platform on the Russia's First ICO-Hypethon in Saint Petersburg

https://www.facebook.com/wavesplatform/posts/672643016261181
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August 25, 2017, 03:00:24 PM
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Waves Platform on the Russia's First ICO-Hypethon in Saint Petersburg

https://www.facebook.com/wavesplatform/posts/672643016261181
Wooow nice to hear that...
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August 25, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
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Hopefully in ICO waves, just accept BITCOIN or WAVES. That was one of the reasons that ETH pumped up so far.
It should be a proposal for all ICO that are launched on the platform.  Cool
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August 25, 2017, 04:13:11 PM
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On the Waves platform I saw that there are tokens with the same name.  Undecided I think this is not good. I do not understand why the name is not unique.

It's not a real world problem, verified tokens have a green checkmark

It looks like they verified the wrong Whoppercoin!

1 Whoppercoin for 1 BTC WTF!!!!!

There is another Whoppercoin where 1 Whoppercoin = 1 sats  Grin

I'm disappointed that Sasha is tweeting about this garbage whopercoins seriously. He better start working more intensly on the dex since it's still look like 30 year old Exchange system. DEX still needs tons of improvements, and there is no news for this so far.

Both the Waves Lite client (with DEX) and the nodes (blockchain) get updates on a weekly basis.
The team is working very hard, hiring new people and all you can do is tell Sasha what to do?
Sasha doesn't give a shit about what you think he should do.

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