WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform.

[CryptoMrM]

guys do you think lisk and waves would be the same price? I have around 5K dollar to invest mybe in the future more  dont know yet , say around 5 or 6 BTC, what you would suggest to me to invest all in waves or just  get half into lisk too! What would you do  if you had 5 BTC to invest!
Thank for any advice!

2btc in waves
2btc in DAO
2btc in syscoin

From someone who has made great investments recently (not providing proof):

I wouldn't touch DAO right now as the majority of the capital is going to be locked away for sometime, there is also rumours that the code has bugs, you're also getting in late and would have to pay significantly more per share. I think investing in Ethereum is the better option right now but see if you can get in under 0.024. With the DAO locking away about 14%+ of the Ether supply and Ethereum switching to PoS soon it is a good short-term investment imo.

You missed the initial Waves bonuses which means anything you invest in WAVES now will effecitvely be benefiting the people who invested in day 1 with the 20% bonus (e.g me, thanks!). There will still be room to make profit but it's less certain.

I wouldn't go anywhere near Syscoin atm, there are far better alternatives.

The price of IOTA has come down significantly recently. I was fortunate enough to pick some up at 20k satoshi and sold near the peak at 40k satoshi. After following the development on the chat for sometime I lost faith in the team and the time it was taking to launch. There's also alternatives now popping up like slock.it and blockchains announcement the other day about perfecting micro transactions at over 100,000 TPS. You might be able to make a bit of money out of it if you know what you're doing, but it's hard to get in to and right now relies mainly on trusted IOU's.

You missed LISK and the pre-market prices are crazy (also please don't get scammed by IOU's).

Overall if there isn't the right opportunity just don't invest. You'd only be providing profit for those who have invested earlier.

Best of luck with it.

Just my opinions on a few thins.

[ImHacked]

Hi, I'm new here, can anyone fill me up how the PoS work and how does it reward us? Also how much would the reward be calculated? Thanks guys!

the truth is, there is no reward. they keep all the waves for themself after the launch of the ico. thats not fair, but that the rules this guys set up. see yourself, this ICO is a kudl mudl.

My name got deleted off the signature campaign. Why? I have my 50+ post and have been signed up for quite a while!

yeah mine too. i got banned from the campaign(?). this guys are just making their own rules or change them, because they can. its a shame. be warned! nothing can surprise here. this waves are in real a tsunami and will take your precious bitcoins. beware.

I'm also signed up for facebook, twitter and news letter.

it could be that the police will charge you, that you were supporting a scam. i would not do that.

You are probably crying that you got kicked in signature campaign. Why dont you ask ahmedsharaf why you got kicked? maybe because you are wearing other signature thats why.

[ExcelThroughKnowledge]

Hi, I'm new here, can anyone fill me up how the PoS work and how does it reward us? Also how much would the reward be calculated? Thanks guys!

You will be able to receive rewards by using lite client and leasing your balance or by having full node. Details will be in tech paper - late May/early June.

Leasing my balance meaning to say lending my balance to users? Having a full node means? hmm.. I'm new so please guide me along.. Sorry for the questions asked.

There is no known calculation on the rewards as well, I'm intending to see what it has for my investment and what I would get back with the PoS..

There is no PoS interest in WAVES, the supply will remain at 100m. However, fees will be distributed to the node which is forging the corresponding block. To be frank, I assume most people are not investing in WAVES for the PoS reward, but rather for its technology and possibilities. 

I also assume that people didn't invest in WAVES just because of its technology and possibilities. They are bound to be waiting for rewards as well. No one would throw their money there just to rot and lose them am I right? lol... The fees would be taken from fiat and split to anyone who helps maintain a node? Which means to say we are getting fiat back instead of increased WAVES token?

Waves is inflation-less system, limited supply of 100 Mil. When full node is validating block it is getting fees from the network and from all transactions happening on the platform - issuing new assets, transferring, trading, converting supported currencies on the platform to tokens...together with all operations of other projects happening on the platform(all fees in Waves token). Then it is sharing rewards with lite clients which are leasing their balance to it.

Pardon my noobness >_> I still don't really get it.. If we were to take part in the ICO, all tokens will be divided equally in terms of our investments. If tokens were charged as fees, then wouldn't it require the investors to first use their token for exchanging before the whole thing could work? Sorry for the trouble explaining to me.. I'm learning..

[kahir]

sasha and vitalik 

[KarlKarlsson_]

Hi, I'm new here, can anyone fill me up how the PoS work and how does it reward us? Also how much would the reward be calculated? Thanks guys!

You will be able to receive rewards by using lite client and leasing your balance or by having full node. Details will be in tech paper - late May/early June.

Leasing my balance meaning to say lending my balance to users? Having a full node means? hmm.. I'm new so please guide me along.. Sorry for the questions asked.

There is no known calculation on the rewards as well, I'm intending to see what it has for my investment and what I would get back with the PoS..

There is no PoS interest in WAVES, the supply will remain at 100m. However, fees will be distributed to the node which is forging the corresponding block. To be frank, I assume most people are not investing in WAVES for the PoS reward, but rather for its technology and possibilities. 

I also assume that people didn't invest in WAVES just because of its technology and possibilities. They are bound to be waiting for rewards as well. No one would throw their money there just to rot and lose them am I right? lol... The fees would be taken from fiat and split to anyone who helps maintain a node? Which means to say we are getting fiat back instead of increased WAVES token?

Waves is inflation-less system, limited supply of 100 Mil. When full node is validating block it is getting fees from the network and from all transactions happening on the platform - issuing new assets, transferring, trading, converting supported currencies on the platform to tokens...together with all operations of other projects happening on the platform(all fees in Waves token). Then it is sharing rewards with lite clients which are leasing their balance to it.

Pardon my noobness >_> I still don't really get it.. If we were to take part in the ICO, all tokens will be divided equally in terms of our investments. If tokens were charged as fees, then wouldn't it require the investors to first use their token for exchanging before the whole thing could work? Sorry for the trouble explaining to me.. I'm learning..

Don't worry, we take our time to answer all questions.  

The genesis will be the start of the WAVES blockchain and with it 100m WAVES tokens will be created. This supply is fixed and does not change in the future. The tokens will be distributed according to the balances from the ICO page. At the beginning, fees will be fixed, e.g. 1 WAVES to make a transfer (this is just an assumption, not set in stone). Before block 2 is created, some people, let's say 5, make a transaction. The collected fees (5 WAVES) will be distributed to the node which creates the second block. The WAVES tokens basically just get redistributed among network participants but no new tokens are created.

To answer your question from the other post: People invest in WAVES because they see the potential it has. Also, do not forget that you will be able to trade assets on its decentralized asset exchange with WAVES as well. The tokens will be used for different actions which, in the end, creates demand for the tokens. And as mx explained, fiat currencies are excluded from the forging process.

[mammusu]

sasha and vitalik 

who is this ? dev etherum and waves?
nice to see to join in the team to the project of waves.

[Thereisnospoon]

I can see some people are having concerns about certain points related to Waves and give way to panic.The best would be (especialy who is new to crypto like myself) do your research on basics what should clarify a lot of questions and do uppreciate input of developers and theyr constant comunication with comunity.After all it's in the interst of all of us.
  And for fudsters wish to to be more profesional and not just throw silly, childish,baseless  statments but come up with a reasonable fud just out of respect to yourself .

Keep the Waves up!

[mxxxxxx]

Hi, I'm new here, can anyone fill me up how the PoS work and how does it reward us? Also how much would the reward be calculated? Thanks guys!

You will be able to receive rewards by using lite client and leasing your balance or by having full node. Details will be in tech paper - late May/early June.

Leasing my balance meaning to say lending my balance to users? Having a full node means? hmm.. I'm new so please guide me along.. Sorry for the questions asked.

There is no known calculation on the rewards as well, I'm intending to see what it has for my investment and what I would get back with the PoS..

There is no PoS interest in WAVES, the supply will remain at 100m. However, fees will be distributed to the node which is forging the corresponding block. To be frank, I assume most people are not investing in WAVES for the PoS reward, but rather for its technology and possibilities. 

I also assume that people didn't invest in WAVES just because of its technology and possibilities. They are bound to be waiting for rewards as well. No one would throw their money there just to rot and lose them am I right? lol... The fees would be taken from fiat and split to anyone who helps maintain a node? Which means to say we are getting fiat back instead of increased WAVES token?

Waves is inflation-less system, limited supply of 100 Mil. When full node is validating block it is getting fees from the network and from all transactions happening on the platform - issuing new assets, transferring, trading, converting supported currencies on the platform to tokens...together with all operations of other projects happening on the platform(all fees in Waves token). Then it is sharing rewards with lite clients which are leasing their balance to it.

Pardon my noobness >_> I still don't really get it.. If we were to take part in the ICO, all tokens will be divided equally in terms of our investments. If tokens were charged as fees, then wouldn't it require the investors to first use their token for exchanging before the whole thing could work? Sorry for the trouble explaining to me.. I'm learning..

85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds.

First part - while transferring your Waves tokens to trade it on standard exchanges after ICO ends or to your persoanl client, you will pay a fee just like with bitcoin and then while trading you will pay the fee that exchanges require.

Second part - when Waves platform is operational after launch in summer 2016 with own decentralized exchange, all transactions happening there will require also Waves token but it won`t be used only for trading there, it will be used in all different operations for example while converting, trading assets, issuing new assets by projects, transferring them, paying dividends, trading, withdrawing supported currencies on the platform presented there as assets etc.

Third part - there will be new POS implementation enabling lite clients users to lease their balance to full node and receive rewards from it.

Waves is blockchain transport layer with Waves token being fuel of the whole platform, used everywhere in the middle.

[Nxtblg]

Regarding the sig campaign discussions: if anyone needs it, the spreadsheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RO52N5rh0-vu1DDzlBYdPjgq6w0YgmrKnJP6I8Nphfg/edit#gid=1340336905

Wow, there are lots of accounts on it...

[ExcelThroughKnowledge]

Hi, I'm new here, can anyone fill me up how the PoS work and how does it reward us? Also how much would the reward be calculated? Thanks guys!

You will be able to receive rewards by using lite client and leasing your balance or by having full node. Details will be in tech paper - late May/early June.

Leasing my balance meaning to say lending my balance to users? Having a full node means? hmm.. I'm new so please guide me along.. Sorry for the questions asked.

There is no known calculation on the rewards as well, I'm intending to see what it has for my investment and what I would get back with the PoS..

There is no PoS interest in WAVES, the supply will remain at 100m. However, fees will be distributed to the node which is forging the corresponding block. To be frank, I assume most people are not investing in WAVES for the PoS reward, but rather for its technology and possibilities. 

I also assume that people didn't invest in WAVES just because of its technology and possibilities. They are bound to be waiting for rewards as well. No one would throw their money there just to rot and lose them am I right? lol... The fees would be taken from fiat and split to anyone who helps maintain a node? Which means to say we are getting fiat back instead of increased WAVES token?

Waves is inflation-less system, limited supply of 100 Mil. When full node is validating block it is getting fees from the network and from all transactions happening on the platform - issuing new assets, transferring, trading, converting supported currencies on the platform to tokens...together with all operations of other projects happening on the platform(all fees in Waves token). Then it is sharing rewards with lite clients which are leasing their balance to it.

Pardon my noobness >_> I still don't really get it.. If we were to take part in the ICO, all tokens will be divided equally in terms of our investments. If tokens were charged as fees, then wouldn't it require the investors to first use their token for exchanging before the whole thing could work? Sorry for the trouble explaining to me.. I'm learning..

85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds.

First part - while transferring your Waves tokens to trade it on standard exchanges after ICO ends or to your persoanl client, you will pay a fee just like with bitcoin and then while trading you will pay the fee that exchanges require.

Second part - when Waves platform is operational after launch in summer 2016 with own decentralized exchange, all transactions happening there will require also Waves token but it won`t be used only for trading there, it will be used in all different operations for example while converting, trading assets, issuing new assets by projects, transferring them, paying dividends, trading, withdrawing supported currencies on the platform presented there as assets etc.

Third part - there will be new POS implementation enabling lite clients users to lease their balance to full node and receive rewards from it.

Waves is blockchain transport layer with Waves token being fuel of the whole platform, used everywhere in the middle.

Thanks for the clarification! ^^. Btw, if we were to lease our balance to full node, is it locked on to it for a certain period of time or are we free to use them anytime when we need it? What are the consequences tied to either one of it? hmm..

[TrueAnon]

Regarding the sig campaign discussions: if anyone needs it, the spreadsheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RO52N5rh0-vu1DDzlBYdPjgq6w0YgmrKnJP6I8Nphfg/edit#gid=1340336905

Wow, there are lots of accounts on it...

My username not there?  I have the sig for awhile, dev can you please add me there.  How I get my share of sig promo campaign?

[Laniakea]

Regarding the sig campaign discussions: if anyone needs it, the spreadsheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RO52N5rh0-vu1DDzlBYdPjgq6w0YgmrKnJP6I8Nphfg/edit#gid=1340336905

Wow, there are lots of accounts on it...

My username not there?  I have the sig for awhile, dev can you please add me there.  How I get my share of sig promo campaign?

You can not get a share.

You were rightfully banned from the signature campaign for publicly discrediting the founder of Waves and his friend.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CilquMxWkAASv2s.jpg
Even Vitalik is riding the WAVES!  

Amount of money = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Amount of action with the ladies = nill

 

[TrueAnon]

Regarding the sig campaign discussions: if anyone needs it, the spreadsheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RO52N5rh0-vu1DDzlBYdPjgq6w0YgmrKnJP6I8Nphfg/edit#gid=1340336905

Wow, there are lots of accounts on it...

My username not there?  I have the sig for awhile, dev can you please add me there.  How I get my share of sig promo campaign?

You can not get a share.

You were rightfully banned from the signature campaign for publicly discrediting the founder of Waves and his friend.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CilquMxWkAASv2s.jpg
Even Vitalik is riding the WAVES!  

Amount of money = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Amount of action with the ladies = nill

 

LOL tell me your post is a joke?  Holy shit are you serious?  When did you become such police or this site become so serious?! If that's true that's pretty lame and sad.  First is a joke I make, second how could you ban for something so meaningless on this website?? wow.  Do you even know what "discrediting" means?  because what i wrote IN NO WAY discredits him....wow.  I shall get my other such bounties meanwhile.  I supported coin since earlier and even spoke with mxxxx dev for help.  I suggest you reverse your decision and stop being so uptight.  Not like my words meant anything for joke on this site, when I have promo'd the coin thru other means.

[evergrow]

LOL tell me your post is a joke?  Holy shit are you serious?  When did you become such police or this site become so serious?! If that's true that's pretty lame and sad.  First is a joke I make, second how could you ban for something so meaningless on this website?? wow.

Aren't you the guy who spammed Wild Beast something here hard, was totally against Waves, and suddenly went and put up the signature?  Anyway if you aren't on the list you aren't participating in the programme I think. The administration of the project decide, we can only accept their decisions.

[TrueAnon]

What people can't research more and buy other coins??  You people get so 'stuck in your ways' re. coins.  It's hilarious.  People can do what they want. I didnt spam wbb I merely point out that that dev is doing (and soon releasing) soooo many things that lisk (and waves) "plan" to offer.  Until results come from such ICO's you always must be careful.  So many people you cannot trrust from their bct posts.  ANywys i wont waste time if no change.

[evergrow]

What people can't research more and buy other coins??  You people get so 'stuck in your ways' re. coins.  It's hilarious.  People can do what they want. I didnt spam wbb I merely point out that that dev is doing (and soon releasing) soooo many things that lisk (and waves) "plan" to offer.  Until results come from such ICO's you always must be careful.  So many people you cannot trrust from their bct posts.  ANywys i wont waste time if no change.

I was not saying that as a reason for disqualifying you, in my eyes that wouldn't be a reason to.
If you've been deleted from the list AhmedAshraf had a good reason to do that for certain. I know he doesnt just delete people randomly. heck what am I to know anyway, I don't even know if you've been on the list in the first place and that's not my cup of beer anyway

[TrueAnon]

What people can't research more and buy other coins??  You people get so 'stuck in your ways' re. coins.  It's hilarious.  People can do what they want. I didnt spam wbb I merely point out that that dev is doing (and soon releasing) soooo many things that lisk (and waves) "plan" to offer.  Until results come from such ICO's you always must be careful.  So many people you cannot trrust from their bct posts.  ANywys i wont waste time if no change.

I was not saying that as a reason for disqualifying you, in my eyes that wouldn't be a reason to.
If you've been deleted from the list AhmedAshraf had a good reason to do that for certain. I know he doesnt just delete people randomly. heck what am I to know anyway, I don't even know if you've been on the list in the first place and that's not my cup of beer anyway

Yeah cool, I no longer know either.  I assume to have 50 posts as well but I do not counting.  I assume devs will inspect each persons posts amounts since start of campaign??

Also there is NO MENTION in the "signature campaign details" re. booting people from the campaign for silly posts or "discredit' crap reason.  Waves should PUT THIS in the details section otherwise how should us users know?  I read them awhile back and there is no wording.  IF there was such wording I would not make such joke, simple.   You cannot "boot" someone just on personal feelings or preference of posting on bct lol, that's not business decision, that's just personal attack reason which is unprofessional and unjust.  Anyways I hope they re-add me for such bounty thanks.

[*Skyhigh*]

Do i have to apply somewhere for the bounties? (Twitter, Facebook and newsletter).

[TrueAnon]

Do i have to apply somewhere for the bounties? (Twitter, Facebook and newsletter).

No I think the devs will review with users after ICO is completed, as I asked this same question to mxxxx and he was very helpful for answer.  Newsletter i think they will know automatically since it's signed up via your own login account for waves.  For twitter and FB i guess they will ask to see your link for account or something? I'm nto sure??

[evergrow]

Do i have to apply somewhere for the bounties? (Twitter, Facebook and newsletter).

For Twitter, Facebook and Newsletter, they will contact you after the end of the ICO.
For the signature program, you had to sign up for yourself and supply the right information. Then, if accepted, you were//are tracked in the google docs list.