TheCryptoMint
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June 02, 2016, 08:13:19 AM |
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They are taking gullible investors money fully knowing that when lisk launches it will collapse 100-1000 fold. If thats not a scam then I really do not know what is.
The same thing happened to lisk. It was getting sold for 0.02 at one point in IOU's then when launched its 60k. Thats the exchanges taking gullible investors money full well knowing it will crash.
The people who bought in the ICO will be fine dont get me wrong but if you buy from an exchange IOU's then you will completely lose a lot of money.
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raetsch
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1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
exchanges can trade whatever they want. yobit and bloombit are trading their own IOUs. No one can stop them from that. You cant deposit or withdraw the waves anyway to this exchanges. As mentioned by others, its not sure if you can withdraw or deposit waves even after the launch, so you will have to keep it there for longer. you need not explain that to me, i know what is going on here. on lisk everything worked in the end. i think it will also on waves. 1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
WAVES should some how black list them from doing this. They are making millions from people who will not get any of their money back..
SCAM IOU EXCHANGES
A highly doubt they will not receive their WAVES IOU tokens as a result of the WAVES team. It might take longer but they should be able to deliver. The node software will eventually become public, just not straight away on the 14th (except to chosen exchanges). I think this is what was meant. You dont understand what I mean. They sell 100k IOU's for 0.01 BTC each. When they get their waves after launch they are wiorth 0.0001 or what ever. Its a complete scam and if you can not see it them try think a little harder. The exchanges dupe people into buying something at a much higher price than the real market value. Its a complete scam as far as I am concerned and it burns people out of waves and lisk. which ever others they did. Its a scam. yes, but that is not a scam, this is traders stupidity. an iphone is also scam then? build for less than 200$ sold for 700$?
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Bitcoinsummoner
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June 02, 2016, 08:14:02 AM |
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Looks like waves still increases in yobit even the wallet still not release.. however i am still waiting for the result after the wallet maintenance in yobit is already been done that you can deposit your waves.. many member of signature campaign of waves receive free waves by wearing signature and i think after release the deposit wallet in yobit we will se the price will dump gradually or it will crash fast.. unless if signature participant can still holding their waves we don't see any crash around 0.02-.01 below..
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June 02, 2016, 08:14:53 AM Last edit: June 02, 2016, 08:25:54 AM by johny08 |
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You dont understand what I mean. They sell 100k IOU's for 0.01BTC each. When they get their waves after launch they are wiorth 0.0001 or what ever. Its a complete scam and if you can not see it them try think a little harder. The exchanges dupe people into buying something at a much higher price than the real market value. Its a complete scam as far as I am concerned and it burns people out of waves and lisk. which ever others they did. Its a scam.
a free market is not a scam in my eyes. i am sure the waves will rise in price, its now just the first day of trading there. alot of people will make and are making that. its a risk, the same as buying waves in the ICO. prepare your btc to buy on the drop on launch, then you can buy more cheap waves. this project is promising to hodl and see what the devs deliver.
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June 02, 2016, 08:15:00 AM |
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1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
WAVES should some how black list them from doing this. They are making millions from people who will not get any of their money back..
SCAM IOU EXCHANGES
A highly doubt they will not receive their WAVES IOU tokens as a result of the WAVES team. It might take longer but they should be able to deliver. The node software will eventually become public, just not straight away on the 14th (except to chosen exchanges). I think this is what was meant. You dont understand what I mean. They sell 100k IOU's for 0.01 BTC each. When they get their waves after launch they are wiorth 0.0001 or what ever. Its a complete scam and if you can not see it them try think a little harder. The exchanges dupe people into buying something at a much higher price than the real market value. Its a complete scam as far as I am concerned and it burns people out of waves and lisk. which ever others they did. Its a scam. if there will be a lot of people buying on yobit, you can expect these people to wait til the price goes back to 0.02. they sure would be holding thier waves for a long time until they get their returns.
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cryptoledgers
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June 02, 2016, 08:17:03 AM |
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Some truly fascinating ideas in the Crypto world were destroyed and shattered in the recent years due to human greed. Just let Sasha and the team concentrate on the very foundation the idea is based on and forget about ICO price etc for now. Let the team focus on what they need to and come up with a solid platform that would inevitably going to change the way we raise funding for our dream projects, send money to our relatives in another currencies within seconds at a rate much cheaper than WU or MoneyGram, allow farmers to receive micro-financing and assist them in getting a fair price and stop so many of them in developing countries committing suicides due to rotting corps and unfair price. There are several such use cases. If we let this happen and support the work around it to make it into something for the greater good, the price of each tokens we have received will be sky high and at that point you can decide whether to sell them or keep holding on to them as you are only the lucky few who are holding the keys to change and shape the world we know.
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June 02, 2016, 08:17:07 AM |
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1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
exchanges can trade whatever they want. yobit and bloombit are trading their own IOUs. No one can stop them from that. You cant deposit or withdraw the waves anyway to this exchanges. As mentioned by others, its not sure if you can withdraw or deposit waves even after the launch, so you will have to keep it there for longer. you need not explain that to me, i know what is going on here. on lisk everything worked in the end. i think it will also on waves. 1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
WAVES should some how black list them from doing this. They are making millions from people who will not get any of their money back..
SCAM IOU EXCHANGES
A highly doubt they will not receive their WAVES IOU tokens as a result of the WAVES team. It might take longer but they should be able to deliver. The node software will eventually become public, just not straight away on the 14th (except to chosen exchanges). I think this is what was meant. You dont understand what I mean. They sell 100k IOU's for 0.01 BTC each. When they get their waves after launch they are wiorth 0.0001 or what ever. Its a complete scam and if you can not see it them try think a little harder. The exchanges dupe people into buying something at a much higher price than the real market value. Its a complete scam as far as I am concerned and it burns people out of waves and lisk. which ever others they did. Its a scam. yes, but that is not a scam, this is traders stupidity. an iphone is also scam then? build for less than 200$ sold for 700$? So how do we differentiate between SCAM and Buyer stupidity? These are people who are supposed to be responsible to hold and trade our funds and they are praying on new people coming into crypto to take their money easily knowing they will lose out significantly. Its immoral and a scam in my mind. And these are the people who we trust with our monies??? Stay away please anyone stay away from them..
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egghead123
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June 02, 2016, 08:17:21 AM |
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Any update on the wallet?
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johny08
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June 02, 2016, 08:18:04 AM |
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if there will be a lot of people buying on yobit, you can expect these people to wait til the price goes back to 0.02. they sure would be holding thier waves for a long time until they get their returns.
sell your waves before 14th on yobit and transfer you btc to buy it on the 'real' market at the supported exchanges. As long that you can ride the waves there.
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June 02, 2016, 08:18:26 AM |
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UPDATE Facebook, Newsletter Bounties
Facebook bounties will be available today. The same you will be confirming your social account through ICO site.
For newsletter bounties you have to have an ICO account with the same email that you subscribed to newsletter.
This is how a coin launch is done properly, not that other ones with ddos, no one able to withdraw, buggy webwallet... you know which one, oink, oink... Glad you took 14 days after ICO to sort things so everyone has an equal chance at the exchange, even though I don't plan on selling. +1 +2 +3 yes agree with the launch and taking the time to sort out bugs. in regards to the bounties it is no good. I did not know i had to have the same email to claim all the bounties my facebook and newsletter email are different to ico mail. Because on the first day nobody could purchase with an account with hotmail for some reason.
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mxxxxxx
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June 02, 2016, 08:18:44 AM |
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Any update on the wallet?
We are on schedule:
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June 02, 2016, 08:19:50 AM |
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1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
exchanges can trade whatever they want. yobit and bloombit are trading their own IOUs. No one can stop them from that. You cant deposit or withdraw the waves anyway to this exchanges. As mentioned by others, its not sure if you can withdraw or deposit waves even after the launch, so you will have to keep it there for longer. you need not explain that to me, i know what is going on here. on lisk everything worked in the end. i think it will also on waves. 1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
WAVES should some how black list them from doing this. They are making millions from people who will not get any of their money back..
SCAM IOU EXCHANGES
A highly doubt they will not receive their WAVES IOU tokens as a result of the WAVES team. It might take longer but they should be able to deliver. The node software will eventually become public, just not straight away on the 14th (except to chosen exchanges). I think this is what was meant. You dont understand what I mean. They sell 100k IOU's for 0.01 BTC each. When they get their waves after launch they are wiorth 0.0001 or what ever. Its a complete scam and if you can not see it them try think a little harder. The exchanges dupe people into buying something at a much higher price than the real market value. Its a complete scam as far as I am concerned and it burns people out of waves and lisk. which ever others they did. Its a scam. yes, but that is not a scam, this is traders stupidity. an iphone is also scam then? build for less than 200$ sold for 700$? So how do we differentiate between SCAM and Buyer stupidity? These are people who are supposed to be responsible to hold and trade our funds and they are praying on new people coming into crypto to take their money easily knowing they will lose. the thing is that even if you distinguish the difference between scam and buyers stupidity, there is nothing we can do to it. it happened and may always happen later.
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June 02, 2016, 08:23:15 AM |
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1.) the coin isn't lauched, it might happen the same 2.) to let iou exchanges out of the game, isn't fair for investors. maybe they are stupid, buying waves for 2million sat. but it is buyers risk. at the moment waves lost most of its credibility to me, if this is true...
exchanges can trade whatever they want. yobit and bloombit are trading their own IOUs. No one can stop them from that. You cant deposit or withdraw the waves anyway to this exchanges. As mentioned by others, its not sure if you can withdraw or deposit waves even after the launch, so you will have to keep it there for longer. you need not explain that to me, i know what is going on here. on lisk everything worked in the end. i think it will also on waves. ...
yes, but that is not a scam, this is traders stupidity. an iphone is also scam then? build for less than 200$ sold for 700$?
So how do we differentiate between SCAM and Buyer stupidity? These are people who are supposed to be responsible to hold and trade our funds and they are praying on new people coming into crypto to take their money easily knowing they will lose. how do you know they will loose? maybe they bought waves very cheap? how do you know, that the buyers aren't longest term holders? at what price did the exchanges sell their iou-waves? you are assumpting, and of course, in some parts you are right. but look at the trollbox, they are only users on yobit and do the same. no difference. every hyper is a scammer, if you ask me. hard to differentiate where stupity ends and scam begins. but in crypto, for me, i define a scam other than that.
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johny08
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June 02, 2016, 08:25:08 AM |
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So how do we differentiate between SCAM and Buyer stupidity? These are people who are supposed to be responsible to hold and trade our funds and they are praying on new people coming into crypto to take their money easily knowing they will lose.
if you know how to trade markets, you can trade it there. yobit and bloombit are trading platforms, you buy cheap and sell high, thats what people are making. no one is stupid, because he/she dont know how to trade, no one is scamming as far i know either. you take the risk, you take the profit or loss.
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June 02, 2016, 08:28:42 AM |
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Hi, can someone sort this problem out? I translated the waves topic to Indian language, everything works fine but in the OP here, when i click on my name then the profile of BitcoinExpert opens up so @OP can you fix this bug. Thanks This problem still isn't solved. I also have messaged Sasha about this, and still no action taken!!!
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June 02, 2016, 08:30:43 AM |
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waves signature link? ??
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June 02, 2016, 08:31:46 AM |
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can some dev help me out? I subscribed to the newsletter with the same email account as my twitter and facebook, however I have a different email account for my ICO, yet they are all connected so I can prove it is linked, according to the BCT post I am not eligible for a bounty because I didn't use my ICO email to subscribe to the newsletter???The only reason I used different email accounts is because hotmail/outlook account did not receive confirmation from Waves so I had to use a non-outlook account. I have been involved since the beginning!
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I like to speculate
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June 02, 2016, 08:34:20 AM |
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can some dev help me out? I subscribed to the newsletter with the same email account as my twitter and facebook, however I have a different email account for my ICO, yet they are all connected so I can prove it is linked, according to the BCT post I am not eligible for a bounty because I didn't use my ICO email to subscribe to the newsletter???The only reason I used different email accounts is because hotmail/outlook account did not receive confirmation from Waves so I had to use a non-outlook account. I have been involved since the beginning!
Send email to rideon@wavesplatform.com
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