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June 09, 2016, 06:53:01 PM
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Interesting strategy but if it woks for you nothing to say .Could wish you good luck seeing prices 2x below ICO but can't do this as I am invested in Waves lol

"2x below ICO" and " below 2x ICO" are not the same Wink. Whether it works or not we will see, it is just guesswork at the moment, but the times I tried to analyze the market and not the coin itself, it didn't work out. I am a terrible trader. The fact is, that you can get a 2x Profit now. That is still a lot, and i've learned the hard way not to be too greedy and that every profit is a profit.
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June 09, 2016, 06:53:56 PM
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i think all waves coin holder will dump at least 50% stock from their bags. some people wants to make quick money. but within a month waves will reach their real market value.and then price will goes up.but 1st day i also dump my free waves to get some profits,and then i'll buy waves a little cheaper then i sold for

I am not so sure, it didn't really happen with LISK. List is sitting at $.46 a LSK right now...still way higher than ICO price. I think waves will be different and be closer to $1....

I think the comparison with Lisk is a little dangerous, for multiple reasons. For once, Bounties were paid out after the mainnet launched, thus, they were dumped on a healthy market. Secondly, Lisk was "the Ethereum competition" (Whether that is justified or not doesn't matter, that is how it came across for a lot of people). Waves doesn't look like a "Coin X 2.0", which is good on the one hand, but bad from a marketing standpoint. Thirdly, with Waves collecting 30000 BTC, it has giant shoes to fill. Waves can only grow so much and I am afraid a lot of it's growth already happened during the ICO. To be honest, if I was comfortable with escrow and private buying/selling, I would've already sold my stash for 0.00065 each (that appears to be the price it is going for at the moment).

Edit: another point that people tend to overlook is the fact, that the DDoS attack kept people from dumping Lisk right away. I actually believe, that that was a blessing in disguise.
All points sound  valid here and very smart.
I just don't get why would you aim at 2x profit? If that's all you are looking for then you can do that with any other coins ant almost any time-2x in crypto is nothing-will get rich quickly.

Because I think it will dip below 2x ICO price and then, I can either accumulate again or look for other investments. At the end of the day, I only have so much capacities when it comes to keeping up with specific crypto projects. And to be honest, I prefer to focus on a few rather than spread out too thin and Waves is (at the moment at least) not my main interest.

 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

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June 09, 2016, 06:58:02 PM
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waves online at bittrex  Smiley

I dont find , link ? .

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June 09, 2016, 06:58:52 PM
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Waves team we do not want to hear that trading on the 14th will be delayed the day of or day before.  If you are behind schedule give as much notice as possible. Also start hiring soon because developers often seem to live in a different time frame than the rest of the world and everything will be late unless you have the staff to cover the slow coding progression.
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June 09, 2016, 07:00:28 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
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June 09, 2016, 07:03:24 PM
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Waves team we do not want to hear that trading on the 14th will be delayed the day of or day before.  If you are behind schedule give as much notice as possible. Also start hiring soon because developers often seem to live in a different time frame than the rest of the world and everything will be late unless you have the staff to cover the slow coding progression.
I don't think todays deadline will be delayed, since in slack they said that the devs are fully focused on having the litewallet done today. I hope they are right and won't let us down.

Source: https://wavesplatform.slack.com/archives/general/p1465495286007738

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June 09, 2016, 07:09:19 PM
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i think all waves coin holder will dump at least 50% stock from their bags. some people wants to make quick money. but within a month waves will reach their real market value.and then price will goes up.but 1st day i also dump my free waves to get some profits,and then i'll buy waves a little cheaper then i sold for

I am not so sure, it didn't really happen with LISK. List is sitting at $.46 a LSK right now...still way higher than ICO price. I think waves will be different and be closer to $1....

I think the comparison with Lisk is a little dangerous, for multiple reasons. For once, Bounties were paid out after the mainnet launched, thus, they were dumped on a healthy market. Secondly, Lisk was "the Ethereum competition" (Whether that is justified or not doesn't matter, that is how it came across for a lot of people). Waves doesn't look like a "Coin X 2.0", which is good on the one hand, but bad from a marketing standpoint. Thirdly, with Waves collecting 30000 BTC, it has giant shoes to fill. Waves can only grow so much and I am afraid a lot of it's growth already happened during the ICO. To be honest, if I was comfortable with escrow and private buying/selling, I would've already sold my stash for 0.00065 each (that appears to be the price it is going for at the moment).

Edit: another point that people tend to overlook is the fact, that the DDoS attack kept people from dumping Lisk right away. I actually believe, that that was a blessing in disguise.

Another interesting comparison: in Waves' first 2 days it raised more than 2x what Lisk did in it's first week.
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June 09, 2016, 07:11:29 PM
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i think all waves coin holder will dump at least 50% stock from their bags. some people wants to make quick money. but within a month waves will reach their real market value.and then price will goes up.but 1st day i also dump my free waves to get some profits,and then i'll buy waves a little cheaper then i sold for

We didnt see that behavior from Lisk whales despite the fear.

It all depends how many people are willing to buy... of course, a lot of people will dump as they want to invest in the new other ICO coins, and why not dump when you can take a easy profit? Wink
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June 09, 2016, 07:11:36 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time.  

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June 09, 2016, 07:18:29 PM
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Is there a web wallet?

not yet, please be more patience.
the wallet will be launch today or tomorrow before waves put on exchange.
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June 09, 2016, 07:18:43 PM
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waves online at bittrex  Smiley
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June 09, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time.  

I tend not to dwell on my bad decisions anymore. If I did, I would've gone mad by now. Selling Waves early may be a bad decision, but as long as it is a bad decision with decent ROI, all is fine for me. There are so many projects out there, I wish I had invested in a few months back. Namely Sia and Neos at the moment, with giant gains. Am I supposed to feel bad about every single coin I didn't buy and that exploded in price? Trust me, I did the "if i had invested in this and sold at that point, I would have X amount of BTC by now" math and it leads nowhere. That's where FOMO sets in and in my experience, that leads to the REALLY bad decisions.

I am rambling, sorry.

 I wish you the best of luck. May Waves go to 10x or even higher Smiley.
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June 09, 2016, 07:28:55 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time. 

I tend not to dwell on my bad decisions anymore. If I did, I would've gone mad by now. Selling Waves early may be a bad decision, but as long as it is a bad decision with decent ROI, all is fine for me. There are so many projects out there, I wish I had invested in a few months back, namely Sia and Neos at the moment, with giant gains. Am I supposed to feel bad about all of them? That's where FOMO sets in and in my experience, that leads to the REALLY bad decisions. I wish you the best of luck. May Waves go to 10x or even higher Smiley.
Thanks and good luck to you too.
And don't worry-there will be many other good projects in a very near future and if you prefer ICO's as far as I can see- ICO's  time is just starting Smiley

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June 09, 2016, 07:31:25 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time.  

I tend not to dwell on my bad decisions anymore. If I did, I would've gone mad by now. Selling Waves early may be a bad decision, but as long as it is a bad decision with decent ROI, all is fine for me. There are so many projects out there, I wish I had invested in a few months back. Namely Sia and Neos at the moment, with giant gains. Am I supposed to feel bad about every single coin I didn't buy and that exploded in price? Trust me, I did the "if i had invested in this and sold at that point, I would have X amount of BTC by now" math and it leads nowhere. That's where FOMO sets in and in my experience, that leads to the REALLY bad decisions.

I am rambling, sorry.

 I wish you the best of luck. May Waves go to 10x or even higher Smiley.
Thx for sharing your insight. I sold all my Lisk early after that terrible launch they had and could've made more money if I would of held longer but like you said there's a lot of good projects coming out that you can't worry about just 1 coin or decision you make.

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June 09, 2016, 07:35:41 PM
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From where to download testnet wallet? I want try to install it to linux.
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From where to download testnet wallet? I want try to install it to linux.
just wait a bit longer. the mainet wallet will be launched. if you still want to try go over slack and join development channel.
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June 09, 2016, 07:46:11 PM
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From where to download testnet wallet? I want try to install it to linux.

It should be described here in the first paragraph.
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June 09, 2016, 07:50:16 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time.  

I tend not to dwell on my bad decisions anymore. If I did, I would've gone mad by now. Selling Waves early may be a bad decision, but as long as it is a bad decision with decent ROI, all is fine for me. There are so many projects out there, I wish I had invested in a few months back. Namely Sia and Neos at the moment, with giant gains. Am I supposed to feel bad about every single coin I didn't buy and that exploded in price? Trust me, I did the "if i had invested in this and sold at that point, I would have X amount of BTC by now" math and it leads nowhere. That's where FOMO sets in and in my experience, that leads to the REALLY bad decisions.

I am rambling, sorry.

 I wish you the best of luck. May Waves go to 10x or even higher Smiley.
Thx for sharing your insight. I sold all my Lisk early after that terrible launch they had and could've made more money if I would of held longer but like you said there's a lot of good projects coming out that you can't worry about just 1 coin or decision you make.
I have no idea why people can't understand that trading something you've got very cheaply is extremely risky profit wise .
If you don't have right volume of funds to generate  reasonable risk/reword ratio and only are small investor like me-don't trade.
Anyway every lesson must be learned and one day someone will get there where he can not just invest but trade as well .That would be fun  Smiley  

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June 09, 2016, 07:53:07 PM
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 You've said in previous post you would sell your stash for 0.00065 each .That is actually only 1x profit. And after this you expecting it to go 2x below ICO what is quite a big difference . Wouldn't there be a need in  adjusting your strategy Wink

Yeah, 2x ICO price is 1x profit. True. But I didn't mean that Waves will go down to half ICO price, I meant that I think it will dip below 2x ICO price, which is lower than 0.0007 (not like 0.000175, I think Waves has way too big of a community at this point to go there). I don't think we will see sub ICO prices at all. Sasha even stated that he is planning on putting up buywalls at ICO level (i'm not a fan of that idea, though).
I am not in favour of buy walls either although being invested perhaps should favour it.I don't like the idea that I am holding something what is in a need of such support. But from trading point of view  any blood running on streets is haven .Especially when project has a huge potential in a long term.
Will be laughing from you( friendly) if that "long term" shrinks to invisible dot in no time.  

I tend not to dwell on my bad decisions anymore. If I did, I would've gone mad by now. Selling Waves early may be a bad decision, but as long as it is a bad decision with decent ROI, all is fine for me. There are so many projects out there, I wish I had invested in a few months back. Namely Sia and Neos at the moment, with giant gains. Am I supposed to feel bad about every single coin I didn't buy and that exploded in price? Trust me, I did the "if i had invested in this and sold at that point, I would have X amount of BTC by now" math and it leads nowhere. That's where FOMO sets in and in my experience, that leads to the REALLY bad decisions.

I am rambling, sorry.

 I wish you the best of luck. May Waves go to 10x or even higher Smiley.
Thx for sharing your insight. I sold all my Lisk early after that terrible launch they had and could've made more money if I would of held longer but like you said there's a lot of good projects coming out that you can't worry about just 1 coin or decision you make.
I have no idea why people can't understand that trading something you've got very cheaply is extremely risky profit wise .
If you don't have right volume of funds to generate  reasonable risk/reword ratio and only are small investor like me-don't trade.
Anyway every lesson must be learned and one day someone will get there where he can not just invest but trade as well .That would be fun  Smiley  
What are you trying to say?

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June 09, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
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So today we can claim waves? Can somebody guide me where and how?

Thank you Smiley
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