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June 22, 2016, 11:22:42 PM |
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8000 btc have been removed from the 30k ICO acc. For what? Was Bioviva that expensive?
I have already stated the bioviva is a complete waste of time and brings 0value to the waves project. In fact I am completely against it and if I find out the devs paid for the announcement I'm selling out.. you can attack me for that comment all you like, as others have a few days ago... Let me explain. 1: bioviva is a biotech company with limited funds dealing with gene therapy. This revolutionary idea is so far from becoming realistic that for a company to make a profit it will be decades out. Yes, decades. 2: biotech companies require lots of money to burn. And this one will take considerably more, probably in the range of a billion+ before they even make it to clinical trials. We will not be able to give them that amount, and they will need it for success. 3: ask yourself, if the company is such a great investment, why wouldn't they be on wall street asking for money? Probably because wall street knows better and said GTFO. Bioviva is a money pit, along with 90% of biotech start ups. I'd be much happier if the devs announced a crowdfund to make a wormhole to heaven. Dealing with Bioviva is a really bit mistake. This is very worrisome to me. How does this sound to you? The members that support Waves. I am a waves holder, but Bioviva is giving me second thoughts about holding my investment. If you research this company, the results are far from reputable. This company sells false hope.
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June 22, 2016, 11:26:59 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 22, 2016, 11:28:51 PM |
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It's only using waves as a funding platform. Don't invest in it then.
I wont be either, but some may want to
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thoth-Atlantian
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June 22, 2016, 11:30:20 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) really though isn't LISK just a clone? Why are the fans so rabid and anti everything else? I think the best performer out of this new batch of hi tech coins will be WBB. but time will tell
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Soul_eater_123
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June 22, 2016, 11:30:26 PM |
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Dealing with Bioviva is a really bit mistake. This is very worrisome to me. How does this sound to you? The members that support Waves. I am a waves holder, but Bioviva is giving me second thoughts about holding my investment.
If you research this company, the results are far from reputable. This company sells false hope.
Not really a problem since Bioviva is only using WAVES for crowdfunding. WAVES is not "investing" in them. Bioviva is controversial but they are also very good at getting attention. I don't think it really matters if they succeed or not. Most biotech companies don't anyway - not because they are a deliberate scam but because in the end the one or two main products that they are developing don't work or the effect is not significant enough to make a viable product with. Most new drug treatments don't. If their products fail people will forget about them. If (though unlikely) they do have something truly revolutionary it will only help WAVES get more crowdfunds. Either way WAVES doesn't lose anything.
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June 22, 2016, 11:31:05 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The way I see it, I could be wrong. They are building a crowd funding stock market and the waves token will power it. The project has big time potential. It will take time though.
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June 22, 2016, 11:34:02 PM |
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Picking up another 12 btc as soon as I confirm on Bittrex for the right price. Hopefully some people are getting impatient and looking to take a small loss and move on to another ICO. There's always another ICO. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 22, 2016, 11:35:22 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The way I see it, I could be wrong. They are building a crowd funding stock market and the waves token will power it. The project has big time potential. It will take time though. Thats the way I understand it as well. WAVES is the gateway to bridge fiat and Bitcoin as well as a decentralized exchange. One-stop shop.
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outfitsoul
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June 22, 2016, 11:35:28 PM |
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Dealing with Bioviva is a really bit mistake. This is very worrisome to me. How does this sound to you? The members that support Waves. I am a waves holder, but Bioviva is giving me second thoughts about holding my investment.
If you research this company, the results are far from reputable. This company sells false hope.
Not really a problem since Bioviva is only using WAVES for crowdfunding. WAVES is not "investing" in them. Bioviva is controversial but they are also very good at getting attention. I don't think it really matters if they succeed or not. Most biotech companies don't anyway - not because they are a deliberate scam but because in the end the one or two main products that they are developing don't work or the effect is not significant enough to make a viable product with. Most new drug treatments don't. If their products fail people will forget about them. If (though unlikely) they do have something truly revolutionary it will only help WAVES get more crowdfunds. Either way WAVES doesn't lose anything. Thanks for the answer. I hope this brings good publicity to waves. I guess as the saying goes, "Any publicity is good publicity!" I hope it is the right choice. I hope multiple projects launch at once. That would be great. I have brought it up before and I will leave this be. I can't wait for the development to really begin. If the Devs come through Waves will be amazing.
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June 22, 2016, 11:45:21 PM Last edit: June 23, 2016, 12:02:08 AM by Twiggy Smile |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Waves platform is created primarily as a simple and accessible method of integration cryptocurrency in the lives of ordinary people, those who are interested in investment and trading, but quite far from cryptocurrency. Waves Team is not trying to reinvent the wheel, but they strive to create a bridge between companies, blackchin technologies and users. On the Waves platform will be available trading with assets and simple way to exchange fiat by using payment gateways. Crowdfunding and decentralized exchange now is a high priority for Waves. Unique biotechnology company plans to become the first token on the crowdfunding Waves platform. And also, Waves is inflation-less system, 100 Mil total limited supply. ### It is better to hear once, than hundred times to read Waves Platform For Investors #4 - Investor Q&A With Sasha Ivanov, Creator Of The Waves Platform PT1 https://youtu.be/4eiv93mM_rE### Ask me Anything with @sasha35625 on @StakepoolCom https://youtu.be/RKuv0pEOKSc![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 22, 2016, 11:48:57 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The way I see it, I could be wrong. They are building a crowd funding stock market and the waves token will power it. The project has big time potential. It will take time though. Thanks, but still don't understand how exactly does the waves token power it? how far will 1000 waves get me on the market, and who defines this amount?
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June 22, 2016, 11:57:28 PM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Waves platform is created primarily as a simple and accessible method of integration cryptocurrency in the lives of ordinary people, those who are interested in investment and trading, but quite far from cryptocurrency. Waves Team is not trying to reinvent the wheel, but they strive to create a bridge between companies, blackchin technologies and users. On the Waves platform will be available trading with assets and simple way to exchange fiat by using payment gateways. Crowdfunding and decentralized exchange now is a high priority for Waves. Unique biotechnology company plans to become the first token on the crowdfunding Waves platform. And also, Waves is inflation-less system, 100 Mil total limited supply. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why would the 100 mil total supply even matter if each token can be broke down into fractions like any other crypto?
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June 23, 2016, 12:01:37 AM |
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Why would the 100 mil total supply even matter if each token can be broke down into fractions like any other crypto?
It is better to hear once, than hundred times to read ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Waves Platform For Investors #4 - Investor Q&A With Sasha Ivanov, Creator Of The Waves Platform PT1 https://youtu.be/4eiv93mM_rE### Ask me Anything with @sasha35625 on @StakepoolCom https://youtu.be/RKuv0pEOKSc
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June 23, 2016, 12:02:56 AM |
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I think everyone should calm down because we know it's whales now controlling the price.. look at this sell order: 0.00029400 18765.27684368 5.5170 It's a whale.. I will wait patiently and when it's time trade in a few WAVES for my TESLA.. No lambo for me, I am going green.. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I will click faucets every day and convert the revenues to cheap WAVES. I've already commented how I think Bittrex was chosen on purpose (to drive the price down/chomp up cheap coins) and of course there is manipulation. One red flag for me however is that the devs/whales chose to play the manipulation game so early on ... not that it matters whether I hold or sell while on bittrex, but I might not play the long game on this one. Lol Long game , Sasha plays even longer fucked us from the start , see how they control price , one exchange only and on bitter , and he says slowly add , right after they get loads of cheap coins , so they will pump it for sure once , squeeze the lemon dry than off to next project , note to self , if Sasha is ever involve in any crypto projects , run the other way.
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June 23, 2016, 12:03:47 AM |
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Can someone please explain how this coin will someday have real value? Besides market manipulation or pump and dump? ETH, and LISK both have amazing tech and real world functionality. WHAT DOES WAVES DO? If it is only used as a fee for trading currencies, is it really worth what the ICO brought in? Please help me to understand this so i know the true value and where to buy in ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The way I see it, I could be wrong. They are building a crowd funding stock market and the waves token will power it. The project has big time potential. It will take time though. Thats the way I understand it as well. WAVES is the gateway to bridge fiat and Bitcoin as well as a decentralized exchange. One-stop shop. with ico money a great liquidity provider could be added in bitshares decentrilized exchange n print more decentrilized assets, its already working n has bridges in china n europe, we should put efforts togheter n make a bigger thing, idea is great.
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June 23, 2016, 12:13:54 AM |
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419 BTC buy wall at 30K
surfs up dudes!
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June 23, 2016, 12:24:34 AM |
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419 BTC buy wall at 30K
surfs up dudes!
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa7DgJhz.jpg&t=665&c=nCIYe-5zcT-Pew) Very nice! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 23, 2016, 12:28:35 AM |
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Picking up another 12 btc as soon as I confirm on Bittrex for the right price. Hopefully some people are getting impatient and looking to take a small loss and move on to another ICO. There's always another ICO. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Finally! I just think it's a great opportunity at this cost. Let's see if I'm cheering or crying in the future. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 23, 2016, 12:34:25 AM |
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Sasha has repeatedly talked about it. This money he used to pay employees, to create multiple Buy walls, for the development of the project, for the organization of meetings and so on. Also, all funds will be transferred to the cold wallet. Please wait for the monthly financial report, then everything rise on the places. First I've heard this. Do you have an example of where Sasha said the ICO money would be used to put up buy walls? For example We withdraw funds from ICO escrow, that was the escrow terms. It will be moved to waves cold wallet. Na
C ICO aдpeca дeньги бyдyт вывeдeны, этo ycлoвиe escrow. пepeвoдитcя бyдeт нa cold wallet Waves, нa биpжи для пoддepжки buy wall, нa зapплaты пpoгpaммиcтaм.
And of course it is happening right now ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrnSYRxn.png&t=665&c=WXDSPxflpWNL9g) ----------------------------------------------- Hilarious, like 50 pages while I slept of whining,
Best ICO ever!!! How often do you get a chance to get a coin with this much hype under ICO price?
Damn wish I had some buys in at 26k but Alas I have filled my bags with all spare BTC I had floating around
I reakon that's all the bounties out and now it's just noobs freaking and dumping.
The big wallets are getting bigger, someone will make a ton of $$$$ on this
I didn't grab that low, 5 BTC at about 33k and some buys between 29-30. Hoping to see another big dip when the remaining 12 million is released. I doubt that sasha will remove the 500BTC wall. ----------------------------------------------- ^^ Is no one else concerned about this? Promising returns and using investor funds for market manipulation a very serious SEC violation.
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June 23, 2016, 12:39:54 AM |
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Promising returns and using investor funds for market manipulation a very serious SEC violation.
Russia don't care about SEC!
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