MoodFool333
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July 07, 2017, 10:00:07 PM |
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To those who do believe in an afterlife, I won't tell you to stop believing. You have every right to believe what you want, and I support that right. I'm explaining here why I disagree with that position.
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JaimeW
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July 07, 2017, 10:57:02 PM |
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Scarcity is what gives something value. If life (biological + afterlife) is eternal it infinitely devalues any given moment.
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kateheoa
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July 07, 2017, 11:04:50 PM |
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One could make a bad argument for that I suppose.
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GuruStorm121
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July 07, 2017, 11:25:54 PM |
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There are a lot of "science as a religion" posts on here. I want to remind people that scientific theories are based on repeatable, quantifiable experiments and updated, modified, or abandoned when new evidence is presented. Science isn't an end-all description of the world we live in. It's a limited understanding of the world as we can measure it and model it.
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July 07, 2017, 11:29:54 PM |
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That's only one way of looking at value. If this life affects the next, even at all, I'd say that makes this one valuable.
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July 07, 2017, 11:49:13 PM |
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The flying spaghetti monster is a good example. Often times "science as a religion" folks will take it as a jab at religion (and it is a jab at religion), but it's also a statement about science. If something cannot be tested, science has nothing to say about it. It doesn't make sense to teach children about the FSM in a science class because there is no way to gather evidence to support it as a theory or test it. Science simply doesn't cover the FSM, just as science simply doesn't cover the question "What is beauty" or "how does this song make you feel?"
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July 07, 2017, 11:54:35 PM |
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Scarcity isn't the only thing that gives something intrinsic value, I would say that all the things life can offer makes it valuable.
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nurul9567
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July 08, 2017, 12:10:53 AM |
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Cars are a widely available, non scarce resource. Does this make them any less valuable?
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July 08, 2017, 12:18:33 AM |
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Afterlife is such an ill-defined term I couldn't tell you if I believe in it or not.
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July 08, 2017, 12:45:06 AM |
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I am agnostic. I've never heard an argument from an atheist that was any better than an argument from a theist, non-theist, or other-theist. My experience is that atheists have a type of faith in the non-existence of religious constructs just as strongly as theists have faith in their religion.
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jackietiam
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July 08, 2017, 12:49:58 AM |
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Do I believe the persona Jonluw will keep on existing in some alternate plane after my body stops living? No. Do I believe what I consider my essential "self" continues existing after Jonluw is dead? Yes, but there's nothing supernatural involved in it.
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arwin
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July 08, 2017, 02:19:38 AM |
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We are all just made of waves of energy on some level. Energy can't be created nor destroyed, it merely changes form. So the "afterlife" may not be as a human entity, but it is certain that we can't just disapear.
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sndrbernal486
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July 08, 2017, 03:01:27 AM |
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I do, mostly because I can't comprehend no longer existing in some way
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July 08, 2017, 03:12:00 AM |
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It's going into multiple, different things. You're made of "dead" things. :]
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jockox3
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July 08, 2017, 04:24:37 AM |
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Yes. but not in the sense that you think. your energy will continue to exist, you will return to the ether of the universe from which you came. and your physical molecules will be redistributed to the rest of the earth by nature. However, you will no longer be self aware so it wont matter. your consciousness will exist in the same same state that it did before you were born. however I'd like to believe that your consciousness will someday inhabit a new life form with a clean slate and continue this cycle for eternity as the universe collapses and starts over again and again..
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July 08, 2017, 04:26:27 AM |
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I didn't until recently. My dog died in my arms last week but before he did he looked me straight in the eyes then turned and focused on something over my shoulder, like something was there calling him. He sighed then died. It broke my heart but for now I'm choosing to believe he was guided away to some place better. It helps
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July 08, 2017, 04:32:24 AM |
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I mean honestly, who knows? Practically though, make sure you lead a good life here on earff while you have the chance. Doing good and leaving a legacy of said good among the quick will set you and yours right.
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July 08, 2017, 04:34:21 AM |
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I wouldn't be surprised if heaven was for everyone, but only animals get in because they're the only ones good enough.
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July 08, 2017, 04:40:10 AM |
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Jew here. I believe there's an afterlife, but I don't think it's nearly as important as life so never put any thought into it.
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July 08, 2017, 05:04:28 AM |
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This is by far the most intriguing comment I have read so far.
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