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[Dux2K]

Another blunder by Rosberg. What is the matter with him? I think he cannot handle the pressure of competing with Hamilton. This will be a long season for him after the summer break eating the dust of Lewis. He must be thinking that he made a mistake signing the new contract at Mercedes.

i didnt see the race just saw result on crash.net i wasn't near tv this weekend have something else to do but this pressure is more and more on rosberg and he seem that cant handle it well
if he dont win in next race i will say for sure that Lewis is new old champ

Yes. The momentum is on the side of Hamilton. In the post race interview you can see that Rosberg is not happy. Hamilton will be considered unofficial driver number 1 in Mercedes and Rosberg will not like this. He now has to live with it for the next few years in his contract.

The Redbulls looked good this weekend. Nice team work by Ricciardo and Verstappen.

Yes redbull are good this seadon they improve every race and it might bethat in this second half on season they come up with something

[smho_16]

Another boring race thanks to Mercedes and more thanks to Nico Rosberg which cannot drive like his teammate at all. If Nico Rosberg would have a good start in Germany and not feeling the pressure we could have seen a different race. These last races have told us that Rosberg cannot hold pressure and I bet on Hamilton to win the race for 2.52 odd at directbet yesterday. I am very happy I did that and I didn't expect that win to be so easy.

[SANALIU]

Full race results for the German Grand Prix from Hockenheim. 

1. Lewis Hamilton    GBR   Mercedes-Mercedes   67 laps   1h 30m 44.200s 
2. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Red Bull-Renault    +06.900s 
3. Max Verstappen NED   Red Bull-Renault    +13.400s 
4. Nico Rosberg    GER   Mercedes-Mercedes   +15.800s 
5. Sebastian Vettel   GER   Ferrari-Ferrari    +32.500s 
6. Kimi Raikkonen    FIN   Ferrari-Ferrari    +37.000s 
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Force India-Mercedes   +70.000s 
8. Jenson Button    GBR   McLaren-Honda    +1 lap 
9. Valtteri Bottas    FIN   Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap 
10. Sergio Perez    MEX   Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap 

11. Esteban Gutierrez   MEX   Haas-Ferrari    +1 lap 
12. Fernando Alonso   ESP   McLaren-Honda    +1 lap 
13 Romain Grosjean   FRA   Haas-Ferrari    +1 lap 
14. Carlos Sainz Jr    ESP   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    +1 lap 
15. Daniil Kvyat    RUS   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    +1 lap 
16. Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Renault-Renault    +1 lap 
17. Pascal Wehrlein   GER   Manor-Mercedes    +2 laps 
18. Marcus Ericsson   SWE   Sauber-Ferrari    +2 laps 
19. Jolyon Palmer    GBR   Renault-Renault    +2 laps 
21. Rio Haryanto    INA   Manor-Mercedes    +2 laps 

Rtd Felipe Nasr    BRA   Sauber-Ferrari    57 laps completed 
Rtd Felipe Massa    BRZ   Williams-Mercedes   37 laps completed

very nice and good result lewis hamilton in Gp germany
although is groundbase and groundland hometown is nico rosberg but hamilton can win
i think roseberg high underpreseure so perfomance not maximal batle max vestapen roseberg lost
now gap championship hamilton and roseberg 19 point is not competitif batle

[andyste]

Full race results for the German Grand Prix from Hockenheim. 

1. Lewis Hamilton    GBR   Mercedes-Mercedes   67 laps   1h 30m 44.200s 
2. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Red Bull-Renault    +06.900s 
3. Max Verstappen NED   Red Bull-Renault    +13.400s 
4. Nico Rosberg    GER   Mercedes-Mercedes   +15.800s 
5. Sebastian Vettel   GER   Ferrari-Ferrari    +32.500s 
6. Kimi Raikkonen    FIN   Ferrari-Ferrari    +37.000s 
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Force India-Mercedes   +70.000s 
8. Jenson Button    GBR   McLaren-Honda    +1 lap 
9. Valtteri Bottas    FIN   Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap 
10. Sergio Perez    MEX   Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap 

11. Esteban Gutierrez   MEX   Haas-Ferrari    +1 lap 
12. Fernando Alonso   ESP   McLaren-Honda    +1 lap 
13 Romain Grosjean   FRA   Haas-Ferrari    +1 lap 
14. Carlos Sainz Jr    ESP   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    +1 lap 
15. Daniil Kvyat    RUS   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    +1 lap 
16. Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Renault-Renault    +1 lap 
17. Pascal Wehrlein   GER   Manor-Mercedes    +2 laps 
18. Marcus Ericsson   SWE   Sauber-Ferrari    +2 laps 
19. Jolyon Palmer    GBR   Renault-Renault    +2 laps 
21. Rio Haryanto    INA   Manor-Mercedes    +2 laps 

Rtd Felipe Nasr    BRA   Sauber-Ferrari    57 laps completed 
Rtd Felipe Massa    BRZ   Williams-Mercedes   37 laps completed

very nice and good result lewis hamilton in Gp germany
although is groundbase and groundland hometown is nico rosberg but hamilton can win
i think roseberg high underpreseure so perfomance not maximal batle max vestapen roseberg lost
now gap championship hamilton and roseberg 19 point is not competitif batle

not good result but very bad resut
is your write GAP point nineteen point so only lewis hamilton leading pont not rival
so batle championship world championship formula one titile not competitif
i hope is every race is competitif batle

[tokeweed]

I used to be a fan of Nico.  Now I am hating him because he has lost me some big bets in the last two races.  I think it would be better for Vettel to take over his Mercedes seat ASAP.  That will make the team more interesting.

[azguard]

I used to be a fan of Nico.  Now I am hating him because he has lost me some big bets in the last two races.  I think it would be better for Vettel to take over his Mercedes seat ASAP.  That will make the team more interesting.

well both driver are up for next season in there own team Mercedes and Ferrari so maybe for 2018 season
but i must admit it would be interesting how will think work with Lewis and Vettel in team

[bbc.reporter]

A partnership of Vettel and Hamilton will be one of the worst ones in the history of F1. Those are two of the biggest egos of the sport. It would be hard for a team to control them. But I will like for it to happen. It will be very fun to watch.

[andyste]

A partnership of Vettel and Hamilton will be one of the worst ones in the history of F1. Those are two of the biggest egos of the sport. It would be hard for a team to control them. But I will like for it to happen. It will be very fun to watch.

your write accident is true but not hamilton and vettel team mate but equal
you can see battle champhionship hamilton and fernano alonso team mate in maclaren mercendes in 2007
or the legen is old formula one you can see team mate batle is alain prost vs ayrton sena

[Dux2K]

A partnership of Vettel and Hamilton will be one of the worst ones in the history of F1. Those are two of the biggest egos of the sport. It would be hard for a team to control them. But I will like for it to happen. It will be very fun to watch.

Maybe would be like senna and prost remember that they were in same team and best rivals in this f1 history by my personal opinion

[tokeweed]

A partnership of Vettel and Hamilton will be one of the worst ones in the history of F1. Those are two of the biggest egos of the sport. It would be hard for a team to control them. But I will like for it to happen. It will be very fun to watch.

Maybe would be like senna and prost remember that they were in same team and best rivals in this f1 history by my personal opinion

It could be good for Formula 1 overall.  That will be entertaining as hell and it could bring on more fans to the sport.  We haven't seen such rivalry in a while.  There was Alonso and Hamilton but that wasn't much of a rivalry at all.  It was like two little kids whining and fussing.  We want two fast and excellent drivers competing with the same cars in Formula 1.  That and bringing back the aspirated V8's.

[marioantonini]

with a serious engine (already with a Ferrari), Red Bull can win all race, is incredible this car because with a very bad engine Renault, end race to only 6 second to Hamilton, and Verstappen end third.
i hope for the 2018 red bull can buy a mercedes or ferrari engine or think to build a "redbull engine"

[SANALIU]

A partnership of Vettel and Hamilton will be one of the worst ones in the history of F1. Those are two of the biggest egos of the sport. It would be hard for a team to control them. But I will like for it to happen. It will be very fun to watch.

Maybe would be like senna and prost remember that they were in same team and best rivals in this f1 history by my personal opinion

It could be good for Formula 1 overall.  That will be entertaining as hell and it could bring on more fans to the sport.  We haven't seen such rivalry in a while.  There was Alonso and Hamilton but that wasn't much of a rivalry at all.  It was like two little kids whining and fussing.  We want two fast and excellent drivers competing with the same cars in Formula 1.  That and bringing back the aspirated V8's.

is now very difuclt is team formula one is one level strong is car equal and same
before mercedes is dominan redbul one show, before redbul mclaren one show dominan
before mclaren,ferari one show dominan
is old GP michael shumacher (ferari) batle mika hakinen(mclaren)
two car is equal and strong
before hakinen batle shumacher, shumacher vs jack vilineu(wiliam renault_
shumahcer(ferari) vs damon hill (wiliam) two can two team is strong and equal

[tokeweed]

with a serious engine (already with a Ferrari), Red Bull can win all race, is incredible this car because with a very bad engine Renault, end race to only 6 second to Hamilton, and Verstappen end third.
i hope for the 2018 red bull can buy a mercedes or ferrari engine or think to build a "redbull engine"

The Ferrari has a weak car and probably because the engine is also weak.  There were talks before that Mercedes was ahead in research with the V6 turbo charger engine and they pressured the FIA to replace the V8 aspirated engines ASAP.  To my understanding replacing the allowed engines was still debated and was two years away at least.  Bernie Ecclestone was unhappy about the change and argued that Formula 1 will lose fans because of it.  I lost interest in the sport for over a year because the sound of those V6 turbo engines suck.  I miss the days of the screaming V8's with drivers KERSing their way out of the corners then DRSing in the zone nearby right after.  Such a delight to watch.

[azguard]

with a serious engine (already with a Ferrari), Red Bull can win all race, is incredible this car because with a very bad engine Renault, end race to only 6 second to Hamilton, and Verstappen end third.
i hope for the 2018 red bull can buy a mercedes or ferrari engine or think to build a "redbull engine"

The Ferrari has a weak car and probably because the engine is also weak.  There were talks before that Mercedes was ahead in research with the V6 turbo charger engine and they pressured the FIA to replace the V8 aspirated engines ASAP.  To my understanding replacing the allowed engines was still debated and was two years away at least.  Bernie Ecclestone was unhappy about the change and argued that Formula 1 will lose fans because of it.  I lost interest in the sport for over a year because the sound of those V6 turbo engines suck.  I miss the days of the screaming V8's with drivers KERSing their way out of the corners then DRSing in the zone nearby right after.  Such a delight to watch.

this is true they were lot ahead in difference to other teams and they "pushed" this to happen
its not rumor i dont seem to like it but seem they come to the end of it and RM and ferrari are getting close to them maybe for next season they will be better then mercedes

[marioantonini]

i hope Vettel have the same patience of Michael Schumacher, wait 5 years in ferrari first to win a first title, because the next years is very important for the future of F1, more rules chance and if Ferrari wrong another time the car (like was wrong with turbo era) don't win for more years

[Dux2K]

i hope Vettel have the same patience of Michael Schumacher, wait 5 years in ferrari first to win a first title, because the next years is very important for the future of F1, more rules chance and if Ferrari wrong another time the car (like was wrong with turbo era) don't win for more years

Well this is true but think will next season be like this i think so only red bull is team that is close to mercedes for now

[tokeweed]

i hope Vettel have the same patience of Michael Schumacher, wait 5 years in ferrari first to win a first title, because the next years is very important for the future of F1, more rules chance and if Ferrari wrong another time the car (like was wrong with turbo era) don't win for more years

I agree.  Patience is key for Vettel.  After winning back to back championships at RBR, I think he should give himself more time to grow and mature as a race car driver.  He should have more faith in their engineers as I believe Ferrari has what it takes to be on top again.

[smho_16]

I think Ferrari has lost their minds or at least it looks like so. They removed James Allison but now strong signals coming from the drivers of Ferrari that he was a brilliant man. Apparently Ferrari needed to remove one of their "big's" in order to justify their total failure during this year. Even Mclaren will pass them after 5-6 races and it will be no surprise to me even if this happens. I feel sorry for Sebastian Vettel going away from Red Bull to Ferrari to find a better alternative to win the title and unfortunately is finding himself in not a very good situation.

[tokeweed]

I was thinking.  What made McLaren change engines from Mercedes to Honda?  I remember they used to have Mercedes engines with the V8's.  What made them switch to Honda's V6 turbo?

If McLaren were still using the Mercedes engines, they could be a contender.

[thebetsport]

i hope Vettel have the same patience of Michael Schumacher, wait 5 years in ferrari first to win a first title, because the next years is very important for the future of F1, more rules chance and if Ferrari wrong another time the car (like was wrong with turbo era) don't win for more years

i hope next not only one domination team
if one domination team formula one, race not attractive
3 year only mercedes is domination, only nico roseberng and hamilton batle and only team mate one team