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November 12, 2016, 09:38:39 PM |
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we can see prerelease version tomorrow?
When I say "prerelease" I mean that it has all features that I thought must be in it. This of course means that someone of us still can come up with a must have last minute, which we all discuss and implement ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . But for now, I think it's all in it. I am right now testing testing and again testing ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) so we are very close to going live or at least redeem our tokens right? lovley
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November 13, 2016, 02:22:38 AM |
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Hi EK, I ran into an issue today and wanted to get your thoughts. I have re-added the non-compiled interpreter logic to the miner as I realized there may be people who want to run an XEL miner but don't want to install a compiler...they'll just have to get the miner binaries from someone.
The issue is that the mangle_state logic for the assignment operator finds all memory locations on the left side of the operator and mangles them. This works fine in the Java code and compiled C code; however, for the non-compiled interpreted code, everything is processed bottom up. So by the time I get to the assignment operator, it's too late to go back and mangle the memory locations on the left side. Let me know if you can think of a simple solution to address this...maybe just mangle the topmost memory location on assignment instead of all of them, etc.
Edit: It's probably more complicated than that. I also noticed that the interpreter goes left to right where the Java and compiled C to right to left. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the interpreted code mangling to match the compiled code. Let me see if I can rewrite it to process the tree similar to how the Java code works.
EK, I was able to rewrite the interpreter to a top-down model so I believe the issue above is resolved. It will just take a bit of testing to make sure I didn't break anything. At this point, I think I just need to incorporate your changes once deployed and do some overall cleanup. Of course, the main thing the miner needs is optimization...this is just a prototype demonstrating all the functionality required to mine such an innovative blockchain, so it leaves lots of room for improvement.
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November 13, 2016, 02:43:15 AM |
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from my understanding:
golem is p2p+smart contract(which is solving the micro payment)
xel is doing cyrptographic/mathematics level decentralized computing.
they are in different approach.
anyway, xel has great potential to stand among real innovations.
xel is similar to primecoin and riecoin, am i right? To solve math issue.
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November 13, 2016, 05:02:56 AM |
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Do you guys know Tau which is on distributed computing before, but it proves that this direction is wrong to use blockchain.
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November 13, 2016, 05:07:22 AM |
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from my understanding:
golem is p2p+smart contract(which is solving the micro payment)
xel is doing cyrptographic/mathematics level decentralized computing.
they are in different approach.
anyway, xel has great potential to stand among real innovations.
xel is similar to primecoin and riecoin, am i right? To solve math issue. if you see every programming logic as some "math issue" then yes. otherwise, no.
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November 13, 2016, 05:09:38 AM |
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Do you guys know Tau which is on distributed computing before, but it proves that this direction is wrong to use blockchain.
we know Tau and folks of tau have been over here already contributing to the code. "proven wrong to use blockchain"? i dont think so.
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November 13, 2016, 02:44:07 PM |
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ANALYSIS OF THE GENESIS BLOCK INTEGRITY
It is important to verify that the genesis block is absolutely correct, does not contain malicious entries and does not lack any entries that should be there. To verify this, I have written a genesis block integrity checker. The source code will be at the end of this message: 1. What Adresses Were Used for Donations:Address 3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn has 449 tx in total Address 1ELC1CgH9jcuQtzXRfmSNKtTiRYKqwjr9q has 49 tx in total Address 3Qnj4QtdD4qtZcP82xyLq2paAEPDgfwezd has 75 tx in total In total we have seen 573 tx.2. Incoming and Outgoing Transactions:Out of these 573 tx we have ... Total legit incoming tx: 508Total legit outgoing tx: 36Then we have 24 ignored transactions. Ignored means that funds were just moved between the local wallets ("3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn","3Qnj4QtdD4qtZcP82xyLq2paAEPDgfwezd","1ELC1CgH9jcuQtzXRfmSNKtTiRYKqwjr9q", "1NETgKnhsGzpN3sW3vid6bhTjBM4o2iaKi","3AVhok6gvrgSbTXfGEksYKEWBdxS9qo8E6")And we have 5 fucked up transactions, these are TX that have sent less than 0.01 BTC and therefore (according to the terms and conditions) got nothing. Lannister you should offer refunds on that, but this just my personal opinion. 3. Hashes of ignored transactions: -> 1d35329ea9e8dc7a5c1548e6edae5529e6b07ce8bcad650e7e53032e561cdfc9 -> 6695b2796551099ac2450ec58fca699485659498a2807aec40cd8817a61e08a3 -> c79f6028d73ea68cd16e01eaa8f2f227871c8f964c31ca37c28b1f5da9c63e14 -> 889d3430eea8b1569da529e29161e54ad3b61245db282eff4b4ee5cc14af115b -> 9c98f78f35b986be8741c59eb4c50b1c46b0296f85e75391b9e7fd330d105e83 -> 6cf76f5bd2f6a315b2cf40726c4dee022b5b6ebe7e2da42e2558a1b128b659a8 -> 6c37aef010c5a88da0cfe42f7371f82dcc7fce34e30ac022c61f344ac096be9d -> 1cf1c550e1921a6e2949e729f83fd8b147c35256730a5075ed1fdbf79bc0f1c7 -> 11f1c5ea10e9736197ac971c799e583d915ab89ea6f2bc019216b6193d90f07c -> e32b9362af4f79ce91f6a491ef72f85f0ed17db3584d7dedaa1e4ab1bb0182c3 -> f66c6e7bb94c2d5c0b676ab4ba396180edb4174911dc02e079559f1e15da173b -> ee1ac2c929358c737ba5c34a576478a1cfe76c04530c41d8cfc8ff25bda79479 -> 518a8ece2c3c47cc56770584afe350a5021e3c3ca0c55a485f5f3dbff2218ae8 -> f3569fdfac1da427902d3017e3afa4237a9ea5a069621cf357cba1ca830c57f6 -> 7af8b806e35c941d52501e95ceaca73aaa80e8c3f8645a47444b6308b802eb5b -> 46134c30005e93d30c10e9a0758ae6ddc9aa26f3bcb72b270657980f9cb0b776 -> daf257b2206e85069cca7e02f373e6d1eeb2d6f13850a11e17ab447ad67b75c7 -> 35f8db04c7d20efa2394fb40784211d6d6c854f0e6baec0f2155f59893e0a10d -> 5eed7014dc0df1e5c544df75ddc832d53018aed53e7de227c7ccbd1292a85fed -> 89c5fe5094b49271a0f04e56b4e16d4dcf66b2646cf38f88132109dc47d69126 -> b8f5144ecc503802eb95d4f243706b1c838fcded4931250172563fac5d66fd06 -> b9c0c7d45d00d7085b406dd4c5be97d039bb69fe39189cadc2fedceaaca9900a -> 3af3171ba5460d76dae60e4f7e8425df502eb30350646b381eeb518b37639974 -> e51ed51928cf83ffde2927ca11905e71f2cc1ead7e78ddf79e80ac6c54c99ce7
4. Fucked up transactions list: -> df2ce20673b75a73f50a43232f42db2fcdc14fa4fade62d7ca7e64c72e5565c6 -> 551d2953bfca100b2c6788c1ce8dd327f88ee1cff57b7174aacdac9e449ae7b5 -> b8ef265cd8f2569919c19ebb9ee73ea78d9c697870957f6bf3e542b2ed133d06 -> 13c018ad6def3c56e35a9b09428b8acf5a342bacb6ef755800a3578d07abb4a0 -> 0ae2ec45b00f82525448008e1ed40cb77a41a28302d64dc62e6b55073ba47de4
!!! DISCREPANCY: We have 508 legit incoming transactions but only 497 entries in the genesis block !!!5. List of TX that are in the blockchain (in those 508 legit tx) but not in the genesis block (in the 497 entires): -> c091160dcaaaac6879cdfd7726a200801670a9f31bf7a7c531e0ae7b77f6e70e [1P4LiqFF5kP96cAuM2WoEVfyoiYYxnLhyU] = 0.8082131 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 17e06c6b0ebc8356d4ab1007d123c74d9d0e79d129a7017135e64cb290cba5e7 [1SdoAbypnx1NKMpsC6VbmVBGCJyX3hP3K] -> 7fed267c0c108c7a1e8288ad1c9f9eb3f1bc275e8d646b87e3da0ed41d1488d1 [1SdoAbypnx1NKMpsC6VbmVBGCJyX3hP3K] = 1.97 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 0fa55082975c3a9a4fd838881ce653fdb079cdcd8a14583862125f6f106e1bbb [1AKo8QK11FurGNvCnKuHvDFEFdavDRMZGo] = 0.2767 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 9712be14e37f28307874d8507d68e648ddd776c1f8ed12de779e87119aa9895e [3De41NGxSHuDgEcGXq8757HUK6m5tJfvdP] = 0.051 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 0ce3a952c09df4ba66f9d5181b640b4f1e224e0d9a377035ec30bdf040fee897 [1GUrpXQySkMghpWEgfpGnMc7HTNeTe6hBn] = 0.454962 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 38eb02515975f5fc4024a09f58663a1ade2dfadf1ee5bacba6ab68f5f8f1acbe [17kGd5dKGSssNn477Rjd8kmJdsrUSM626Q] = 0.0103 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> c9c25ec07b37ec2cd6849f7de3c64706da84a3394b45fa5a9e0cb5c14cdaf111 [16MmuQWvJuNqJRLgoYfwvBeqVHr3BqmFwk] = 1.5 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 1e2fb7b8ebd921de452334a863661ce7b105e7cea7275f7ec3908f391fdcbb9f [13HfJkxPLJhTrCJEQSP3h6AZ23f63HpRGM] -> 4965a221f2a945fcb21c814afc737ef31748cc0fa52f989f16ac12edb9968bae [13HfJkxPLJhTrCJEQSP3h6AZ23f63HpRGM] = 2.418 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 13e5c99a85ae8995d0e518f7f24b3800f993fc581457eaeb255720b9d74f54d6 [19g9GuHbmJJLi7VwrhkAQJeebdKyXsKYAX] = 1.003 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> bcad11d4c3c671554ffe1e0cd9f10db35668e3989ca55a1383184446286c4f8c [1KkUA1YrU6d6kU348rGZFxsNAdDezaSpEQ] = 0.5007 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice)
!!! TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCIES !!!6. Missing Entries in Genesisblock that got Refunded from Official AdressesAutomatic blockchain parsing revealed refunds from the donation addresses that explain why certain inbound TX do not end up in the genesis block: Explained missing 0.808213 BTC from 1P4LiqFF5kP96cAuM2WoEVfyoiYYxnLhyU, we saw refunds as high as 0.808023 BTC -> 5312f91d3839125ac2fedcb205b9ae1939edc457f36b6509a909cc9d8cfd8f08 refunded 0.80802271 BTC Explained missing 1.003000 BTC from 19g9GuHbmJJLi7VwrhkAQJeebdKyXsKYAX, we saw refunds as high as 1.003000 BTC -> ea3b875e5a9c9cc789fcb6bddd270042b1202481b5bedeaa01b59294379fbdc5 refunded 1.003 BTC Explained missing 0.500700 BTC from 1KkUA1YrU6d6kU348rGZFxsNAdDezaSpEQ, we saw refunds as high as 0.500700 BTC -> 3550fda47fd9527c0a0b8f04034af06317a83767dcc6f378ec4c557ef3337790 refunded 0.5007 BTC Explained missing 0.454962 BTC from 1GUrpXQySkMghpWEgfpGnMc7HTNeTe6hBn, we saw refunds as high as 0.454987 BTC -> 842a849f860fb9b72ad06dcbd455bd1d1c970a3764eef27a46200ecf336bdb1f refunded 0.45498688 BTC Explained missing 1.970000 BTC from 1SdoAbypnx1NKMpsC6VbmVBGCJyX3hP3K, we saw refunds as high as 1.969960 BTC -> de1a2d337c7e92e13c5e216cc39bf8f8bb38215fd167660c63bdc6ba69242f8c refunded 1.96995956 BTC
7. Missing Entries in Genesisblock that got Refunded from other sourcesTo sum up, these missing entries are still to be explained: -> 0fa55082975c3a9a4fd838881ce653fdb079cdcd8a14583862125f6f106e1bbb [1AKo8QK11FurGNvCnKuHvDFEFdavDRMZGo] = 0.2767 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 9712be14e37f28307874d8507d68e648ddd776c1f8ed12de779e87119aa9895e [3De41NGxSHuDgEcGXq8757HUK6m5tJfvdP] = 0.051 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 38eb02515975f5fc4024a09f58663a1ade2dfadf1ee5bacba6ab68f5f8f1acbe [17kGd5dKGSssNn477Rjd8kmJdsrUSM626Q] = 0.0103 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> c9c25ec07b37ec2cd6849f7de3c64706da84a3394b45fa5a9e0cb5c14cdaf111 [16MmuQWvJuNqJRLgoYfwvBeqVHr3BqmFwk] = 1.5 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice) -> 1e2fb7b8ebd921de452334a863661ce7b105e7cea7275f7ec3908f391fdcbb9f [13HfJkxPLJhTrCJEQSP3h6AZ23f63HpRGM] -> 4965a221f2a945fcb21c814afc737ef31748cc0fa52f989f16ac12edb9968bae [13HfJkxPLJhTrCJEQSP3h6AZ23f63HpRGM] = 2.418 BTC in total (dont count addrs twice)
Let's do it manually: 1.) 1AKo received a refund for the whole 0.2767 BTC in this transaction: 54a7fbb765713967ef314dda087b2239d86e16292b9d881652632706db22f2732.) 13Hfjkx received a refund for the whole 2.418 BTC in this transaction: 846326c8efe979976248967b117b09dbb11b08278bd5f71d8f20d8b84ecaa0c03. 16Mmu received a refund for the whole 1.5 BTC in this transaction: 6caad238d66ce67cc1ff2d0e8df8a0bbed9ca36bbe8a6636bcee321b93c6c00e8. People who SHOULD have gotten XEL:These people are not in the genesis block but should be there! We MUST(!!!!!!!) patch it by hand!17kGd5dKGSssNn477Rjd8kmJdsrUSM626Q - 0.0103 BTC in block 400661 3De41NGxSHuDgEcGXq8757HUK6m5tJfvdP - 0.051 BTC in block 401570 All in all, this is very positive. The genesis block is just off by 0.0613 BTC9. The Python Scriptimport urllib2 import os.path import json import time import sys
def ensure_is_present(url, file_name): exists = os.path.isfile(file_name) if not exists: time.sleep(2) u = urllib2.urlopen(url) f = open(file_name, 'wb') meta = u.info() try: file_size = int(meta.getheaders("Content-Length")[0]) except: file_size = 1000 print "Downloading: %s Bytes: %s" % (file_name, file_size)
file_size_dl = 0 block_sz = 8192 while True: buffer = u.read(block_sz) if not buffer: break
file_size_dl += len(buffer) f.write(buffer) status = r"%10d [%3.2f%%]" % (file_size_dl, file_size_dl * 100. / file_size) status = status + chr(8)*(len(status)+1) print status,
f.close() print ""
addresses = ["3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn","3Qnj4QtdD4qtZcP82xyLq2paAEPDgfwezd","1ELC1CgH9jcuQtzXRfmSNKtTiRYKqwjr9q"] internals_ignore = ["1NETgKnhsGzpN3sW3vid6bhTjBM4o2iaKi","3AVhok6gvrgSbTXfGEksYKEWBdxS9qo8E6"] estimations = {} loaded = {} outgoing = [] incoming = [] ignored = [] failures = []
def ensure_is_present_with_offset(url, file_name, offset=0): global estimations global loaded global outgoing global incoming global ignored global failures
innerfname = "offset-" + str(offset) + "-" + file_name exists = os.path.isfile(innerfname) if not exists: time.sleep(2) u = urllib2.urlopen(url.replace("offset=0","offset="+str(offset))) f = open(innerfname, 'wb') meta = u.info() try: file_size = int(meta.getheaders("Content-Length")[0]) except: file_size = 1000 print "Downloading: %s Bytes: %s" % (innerfname, file_size)
file_size_dl = 0 block_sz = 8192 while True: buffer = u.read(block_sz) if not buffer: break
file_size_dl += len(buffer) f.write(buffer) status = r"%10d [%3.2f%%]" % (file_size_dl, file_size_dl * 100. / file_size) status = status + chr(8)*(len(status)+1) print status,
f.close() print "" with open(innerfname) as data_file: data = json.load(data_file) if data["address"] not in estimations: estimations[data["address"]] = int(data["n_tx"]) loaded[data["address"]] = 0 if "txs" in data: loaded[data["address"]] += len(data["txs"]) for x in data["txs"]: is_outgoing = False is_ignored = False for n in x["inputs"]: for uu in internals_ignore: if n["prev_out"]["addr"] == uu: is_ignored = True break if n["prev_out"]["addr"] == data["address"]: is_outgoing = True break elif n["prev_out"]["addr"] == addresses[0] or n["prev_out"]["addr"] == addresses[1] or n["prev_out"]["addr"] == addresses[2]: is_ignored = True if is_outgoing and not is_ignored: for pp in x["out"]: if "addr" not in pp: continue for uu in internals_ignore: if pp["addr"] == uu: is_ignored = True break
if pp["addr"] == data["address"]: total_out += pp["value"]
if is_ignored == True: ignored.append(x) else: outgoing.append(x) elif not is_outgoing and not is_ignored: # check if the output was 0.01BTC or higher is_failure = False total_out = 0 for pp in x["out"]: if "addr" not in pp: continue for uu in internals_ignore: if pp["addr"] == uu: is_ignored = True break
if pp["addr"] == data["address"]: total_out += pp["value"]
if is_ignored == True: ignored.append(x) elif total_out<1000000: # 1 mio satoshi = 0.01 BTC failures.append(x) else: incoming.append(x) else: ignored.append(x)
# trigger next offset loading if len(data["txs"])==50: ensure_is_present_with_offset(url,file_name, offset+50)
# JSON Genesis Block url = "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/master/genesis-block.json" file_name = url.split('/')[-1] ensure_is_present(url, file_name)
# All TX from 3Q2 address url2 = "https://blockchain.info/address/3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn?format=json&offset=0&/3q2address.json" file_name2 = url2.split('/')[-1] ensure_is_present_with_offset(url2, file_name2)
# All TX from 3Qnj address url3 = "https://blockchain.info/address/3Qnj4QtdD4qtZcP82xyLq2paAEPDgfwezd?format=json&offset=0&/3qnjaddress.json" file_name3 = url3.split('/')[-1] ensure_is_present_with_offset(url3, file_name3)
# All TX from 3Qnj address url4 = "https://blockchain.info/address/1ELC1CgH9jcuQtzXRfmSNKtTiRYKqwjr9q?format=json&offset=0&/1elcjaddress.json" file_name4 = url4.split('/')[-1] ensure_is_present_with_offset(url4, file_name4)
# Did the loading go well? print "Checking if the downloaded json files from blockchain.info are correct" for x in estimations: print "Address %s\tshould have %d tx\tloaded %d tx" % (x,estimations[x],loaded[x]) if estimations[x] != loaded[x]: print "!! FATAL ERROR, fix this first." sys.exit(1) print "Total incoming tx:\t%d" % len(incoming) print "Total outgoing tx:\t%d" % len(outgoing) print "Total ignored tx:\t%d (Those should be these, that move the funds from one address to another address)" % len(ignored) for i in ignored: print " ->",i["hash"] print "Total fucked up tx:\t%d (Those are these sending less than 0.01 BTC to the burn address)" % len(failures) for i in failures: print " ->",i["hash"]
print "" print "Looking for suspicious activity (missing TX in genesis, too many TX in genesis, ...)"
def parse_real_tx(file_name): global all_inputs_plausible with open(file_name) as data_file: data = json.load(data_file) if "txs" not in data: return we_want_this_many = int(data["n_tx"]) data = data["txs"] print "%s TX history has %d entries, should have %d" % (file_name,len(data), we_want_this_many) print data[0]
print "Parsing JSON file" import json from pprint import pprint abnormal = []
hashes_missing_in_history = [] btc_not_counted_in_genesis = 0.0 hashes_missing_in_genesis_block = [] loaded_hashes = []
btc_normal = 0 with open(file_name) as data_file: data = json.load(data_file) print "Genesis Block has %d entries" % len(data) for x in data: amount = float(x["mir_amount"]) if amount <= 0: continue loaded_hashes.append(x["btc_tx"]) pubkey = x["owner_pubkey"] if pubkey[0:2]=="02" or pubkey[0:2]=="03" or pubkey[0:2]=="04" and ' ' not in pubkey: # print "Pubkey [%s...] burned for [%.6f] XEL" % (pubkey[0:12], amount) btc_normal += float(x["btc_amount"]) else: abnormal.append(x)
missing_addresses = {} missing_amounts_per_address = {}
for x in incoming: if x["hash"] not in loaded_hashes: hashes_missing_in_genesis_block.append(x["hash"]) total_missing = 0.0 for l in x["out"]: if "addr" in l and l["addr"] in addresses: total_missing += float(l["value"]) missing_addresses[x["hash"]] = x["inputs"][0]["prev_out"]["addr"] if x["inputs"][0]["prev_out"]["addr"] not in missing_amounts_per_address: missing_amounts_per_address[x["inputs"][0]["prev_out"]["addr"]] = 0 missing_amounts_per_address[x["inputs"][0]["prev_out"]["addr"]] += total_missing/100000000.0 btc_not_counted_in_genesis += total_missing/100000000.0
for x in loaded_hashes: is_gone = True for ja in incoming: if ja["hash"]==x: is_gone = False if is_gone: hashes_missing_in_history.append(x["hash"])
print "Found %d suspicious tx" % (len(hashes_missing_in_genesis_block)+len(hashes_missing_in_history)) print "Hashes in blockchain but not in genesis block:" for x in hashes_missing_in_genesis_block: print " ->",x,"[" + missing_addresses[x] + "] =",missing_amounts_per_address[missing_addresses[x]],"BTC in total (dont count addrs twice)" print " =","total missing:",btc_not_counted_in_genesis,"BTC" print "Hashes in genesis block but never seen on blockchain:"
for x in hashes_missing_in_history: print " ->",x print "Trying to explain discrepancies ..." print "Step 1: Looking for refunds" explained = [] for x in missing_amounts_per_address: found = False outputs = {} total = 0.0 for ou in outgoing: for xx in ou["out"]: if xx["addr"] == x: found = True outputs[ou["hash"]] = float(xx["value"])/100000000.0 total += float(xx["value"])/100000000.0 if len(outputs)==0: continue print "Explained missing %.6f BTC from %s, we saw refunds as high as %.6f BTC" % (missing_amounts_per_address[x],x,total) explained.append(x)
for xy in outputs: print " ->",xy,"refunded",outputs[xy],"BTC"
print "\nREBUILDING THE LIST OF MISSING ENTRIES IN GENESIS BLOCK!!\n" tokill=[] for k in hashes_missing_in_genesis_block: if missing_addresses[k] in explained: tokill.append(k) for pao in tokill: hashes_missing_in_genesis_block.remove(pao)
print "Found %d suspicious tx" % (len(hashes_missing_in_genesis_block)+len(hashes_missing_in_history)) print "Hashes in blockchain but not in genesis block **AND NOT EXPLAINED SO FAR**:" for x in hashes_missing_in_genesis_block: print " ->",x,"[" + missing_addresses[x] + "] =",missing_amounts_per_address[missing_addresses[x]],"BTC in total (dont count addrs twice)"
sys.exit(5) print "Now, Handing the Abnormal ..." # Now handling the abnormals btc_abnormal = 0 for x in abnormal: btc_abnormal += float(x["btc_amount"])
print "" print "STATISTICS" print "==========" print "In total, %.6f BTC came from abnormal transactions" % btc_abnormal print " -> %d are save 1-of-many multisig transactions" % 0 print " -> %d are regular multisig transactions" % 0 print " -> %d are cosigned by some creepy wallet" % 0 print "In total, %.6f BTC came from normal transactions" % btc_normal
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November 13, 2016, 02:47:48 PM Last edit: November 13, 2016, 02:59:14 PM by Evil-Knievel |
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Does this, what I said in the last post, make sense? Maybe someone could double check!
PS: Prerelease version will come a few hours later, the genesis block analysis ate up the entire day. But better double check everything than being sorry for not doing so!
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November 13, 2016, 03:22:29 PM |
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Do you guys know Tau which is on distributed computing before, but it proves that this direction is wrong to use blockchain.
we know Tau and folks of tau have been over here already contributing to the code. "proven wrong to use blockchain"? i dont think so. I dont think so too.
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November 13, 2016, 03:27:07 PM |
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Does this, what I said in the last post, make sense? Maybe someone could double check!
PS: Prerelease version will come a few hours later, the genesis block analysis ate up the entire day. But better double check everything than being sorry for not doing so!
Wonderful ,waiting for u prerelease version.
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November 13, 2016, 03:54:05 PM |
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November 13, 2016, 04:08:04 PM |
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E-K I sent you a PM, waiting for your reply ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 13, 2016, 10:07:53 PM |
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Is there a Slack channel for Elastic?
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November 13, 2016, 10:33:00 PM |
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Is there a Slack channel for Elastic?
Nope. I Tried to make one some pages back, but it didn't work out. I think it won't, yet. There are just too few people active at the moment, thus a thread works just as well.
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November 13, 2016, 10:35:32 PM |
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Is there a Slack channel for Elastic?
Nope. I Tried to make one some pages back, but it didn't work out. I think it won't, yet. There are just too few people active at the moment, thus a thread works just as well. OK. If you have one created you might as well post it when when this goes live. Probably will be lots of people active once tokens are awarded.
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November 13, 2016, 10:39:41 PM |
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Is there a Slack channel for Elastic?
Nope. I Tried to make one some pages back, but it didn't work out. I think it won't, yet. There are just too few people active at the moment, thus a thread works just as well. OK. If you have one created you might as well post it when when this goes live. Probably will be lots of people active once tokens are awarded. I didn't find out how to create an auto-invite and wasn't too keen on being the admin of such a channel anyway…
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November 13, 2016, 11:33:57 PM |
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Is there a way to verify if ones transaction is in the genesis block?
Thanks.
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November 13, 2016, 11:50:33 PM |
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Is there a way to verify if ones transaction is in the genesis block?
Thanks.
On the old page, the genesis block was openly visible. Not sure where to see the genesis block right now. E-K seems to know or has a copy. Lannister probably has it, too.
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