[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer

[hagie]

Explorer Live!

http://31.178.227.21/

Supported queries:
1. Block height
2. Transaction ID
3. Transaction Full Hash
4. Address (RS only)

Not supported queries:
1. Block ID
2. Address (numeric) (will never be supported I think)

Supported queries/functionalities in future:
1. Block ID
2. List of peers and thier geolocation
3. World map of peers
4. Statistics about XEL network
5. Forging calculator
6. ...IDEAS?

In Overview you can see last 100 blocks and last 200 transactions in last 100 blocks.

If you want to search for something direct blockchain explorer support this since genesis block so you can provide:
1. Block height
2. Transaction ID
3. Transaction Full Hash
4. Address (RS only)

In search query.

If you want more you have Contact page where you can go to places where you can suggest issues/suggestions/ideas.

Later this week I'll buy domain for it.

As you all know we have datetime issue in our network. I had to do hack aka time offset that is in the network so you can see actual dates while you spending time in explorer. If @EK fix this issue I'll update explorer to display dates from daemon.

Have fun, waiting for some feedback.



http://31.178.227.21/

Really cool - I hope you don't mind if I put a host name entry for this IP under http://xelplorer.cryptnodes.site until you like to have it removed. The DNS properagtion should be active in the next 1-2 hours.

regards

[unvoid]

Really cool - I hope you don't mind if I put a host name entry for this IP under http://xelplorer.cryptnodes.site until you like to have it removed. The DNS properagtion should be active in the next 1-2 hours.

regards

Awesome! Thanks.

[unvoid]

If you want to try XEL:

First of all you need Java installed: go to google and search how to install Java on your machine. Currently we support Linux and MacOSX. Windows support will be later (but if you know how to do correct paths in Windows you can compile it in Windows).

Download testnet client https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client.
Best if you download it trough git for future easy updates. Install git on your machine and:

git clone https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client.git

Watch this video for instructions how to run it https://player.vimeo.com/video/178616474?quality=1080p and paste your address here to receive some XEL for testing and fun.


If you want to try out a miner:

1. Download it from: https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-miner
Best if you download it trough git for future easy updates. Install git on your machine and:

git clone https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-miner.git

2. ./compile.sh
3. ./run.sh
4. Give it your passphrase (after you hit a key make sure visible XEL address is yours)
5. Give it a XEL running daemon IP address (default localhost)
6. Hit enter and submit work to the network in your XEL client UI as shown here https://player.vimeo.com/video/178616474?quality=1080p. If someone else will submit work to the network your miner will automatically start working on it.
7. Example work are here https://github.com/OrdinaryDude/elastic-reference-client/tree/master/elasticpl_examples. no_bounties_found.epl will not found any bounty! Be warned that this is debug job that will just expire after 250 blocks without any submissions.

Suggestions:

run miner with lower cpu priority for optimal experience. Especialy if you running miner on the same machine that you running XEL node.

i. e.

Code:

screen nice -n 20 ./run.sh

20 is lowest possible priority in most linux env.


If you want to update XEL to the newest version:

Stop your node (CTRL + C)
Go to main directory of XEL and:

Code:

git pull origin master
./compile.sh
rm -rf nxt_test_db/
screen ./run.sh

If you want to update miner to the newest version:

Stop your miner (CTRL + C)
Go to main directory of miner and:

Code:

git pull origin master
./compile.sh
screen nice -n 20 ./run.sh

[josegines]

Test wallet installed, please some XEL:
XEL-6R66-2MZY-MA5N-7Y23F
Thanks

[trader19]

@unvoid great work with explorer, i will be waiting for @EK to update XEL to newest version than i will be running node again.

[Evil-Knievel]

@unvoid great work with explorer, i will be waiting for @EK to update XEL to newest version than i will be running node again.

... working hard on it! I think I can't make it today, but tomorrow looks promising! I will try though.

@unvoid:

AMAZING WORK!!!! We could think about adding the work features to the explorer. Maybe a list of active work, their current status, their bounties and some graphs or so?

Also, we have to think about some automatic "amount per POW submission" suggestion mechanism. At the moment its just you get 10 XEL per POW submission. In reality, people (work authors) will decide on their own how much XEL they are willing to pay for each POW submission. Then, the market will decide which work will be solved first with what priority. This is not easy because the price in XEL / POW submission must take several aspects into account:

- the worst case execution time of the program
1 XEL / POW Submission can be high for a POW submission when the program is very short, and very (too) low for programs that execute longer

- Other work packages that are currently online and their rewards
... to stay competitive

- The current computational POWER of the network.
The system scales the POW submision rate at 10 per minute. If the network has more computational power, then the reward should be higher to attract miners, right?


We have to come up with something intelligent here, something automatic so that people who want to have their work done quickly do not have to bother about economical questions but get a "reasonable value" suggested.

[ImI]

Test wallet installed, please some XEL:
XEL-6R66-2MZY-MA5N-7Y23F
Thanks

sent

[mvag]

ZCash will use Equihash as an hashing algorithm...

If it's "memory-hard" algorithm it's highly possible we would not mine it on Elastic network. We have some restrictions if it comes to memory.

It is memory bandwidth, not the memory size that Equihash needs. In practice in means the optimal ratio of CPU/RAM, which seems to be around 1 GB of RAM per mining thread (1 core CPU):

https://forum.z.cash/t/how-to-properly-mine-zcash-day-1/937/3

The Equihash paper says RAM bandwidth, not RAM size, determines the limits, provided you have enough additional "processors" (threads?) per 1 GB. For example, you might need 1 GB to fully utilize a thread that is operating at some bandwidth. But if that is using only 10% of the bandwidth that the RAM is capable of, you could run 10 more threads.

They are actually planning to support smartphones for mining:
https://z.cash/blog/why-equihash.html

Further down the track, our goal is to have the Equihash solver optimised for running on smartphones. We hope that this will greatly aid the decentralization of mining — users could mine Zcash while their phones are plugged in and unused overnight!

[Redawn]

maybe asked before;
but when I run ./run.sh (after a good compile) the test reference client seems to work in a terminal (on a MAC)
But unfortunately 127.0.0.1:7876 doesn't work, no page no connection. The terminal seems to work fine (connecting and seeing broadcasting messages).

Does anyone have some tips?

And one again, please use the reddit r/XEL . For quick and fast community reddit is the place to use!

127.0.0.1:6876 (7876 would be for the mainnet)

Thanks! it is now working!
Now please send some test XEL:

XEL-JLD4-8T9Q-LGAM-6MM98

done
regards

Thanks a lot!

[cyberhacker]

now my faith in this project is growing...

[Redawn]

By the way, we are almost through porting to the latest NXT branch. Just a few more things are missing (like the work control functions from the old UI)! it's not that much!
The UI has also been improved a lot, I think. But the biggest benefit is coming from under the hood!  

Great. For few last days I was wondering how to get more people to test before mainnet and I have this bad feeling about our first post in this thread. It's ugly. New people come here and first thing they do they trying to go to 1 page of this thread and read something about our project. Everything they will read is that @Lannister is money holder (big, ugly, red first sentences) and nothing more. Whitepaper is quite actual but the rest (github links) is dead. We are long time after donations phase. We don't need any warnings because all of participants know what they were signing with thier BTCs. Also today we know that we are forking NXT, we know more or less our specification so it would be good to:

1. @Lannister wake up and refresh first post. It's ugly and deterrent. Wake up and join us again.

2. If @Lannister is idle we should create new thread without self-moderated (we don't need to be afraid trolls today, we and them all knows that we have good, solid project) and with first post that will inform people what is Elastic, what is Elastic specification, what links do we have to this date (reddit, explorer, website, etc) and so on.

Anyone have same feelings? Any suggestions?

Just remember that if we will launch mainnet and we will be trying to get exchanges attention we will also need to give them link to coin thread. And today they will enter this thread and see first post that is clear 'do not sue me' joke.

I totally agree! There is no need for angry evil red message that warn people. We know that it is a donation and we are trying to do great work here. That's the reason there is also a reddit thread (r/XEL), this forum (not all!) on Bitcointalk is scaring people.

[Redawn]

Explorer Live!

http://31.178.227.21/

Supported queries:
1. Block height
2. Transaction ID
3. Transaction Full Hash
4. Address (RS only)

Not supported queries:
1. Block ID
2. Address (numeric) (will never be supported I think)

Supported queries/functionalities in future:
1. Block ID
2. List of peers and thier geolocation
3. World map of peers
4. Statistics about XEL network
5. Forging calculator
6. PoW functionalities, we need to wait untill we know how excatly PoW will work and what queries we will have to get some info from XEL daemon.
7. ...IDEAS?

In Overview you can see last 100 blocks and last 200 transactions in last 100 blocks.

If you want to search for something direct blockchain explorer support this since genesis block so you can provide:
1. Block height
2. Transaction ID
3. Transaction Full Hash
4. Address (RS only)

In search query.

If you want more you have Contact page where you can go to places where you can suggest issues/suggestions/ideas.

Later this week I'll buy domain for it.

As you all know we have datetime issue in our network. I had to do hack aka time offset that is in the network so you can see actual dates while you spending time in explorer. If @EK fix this issue I'll update explorer to display dates from daemon.

Have fun, waiting for some feedback.



http://31.178.227.21/

Nice work!

[anhpt192]

when i run ./compile.sh
it returns ./compile.sh: line 8: javac: command not found

pls help, need i install anything?

You need to install java jdk

Code:

sudo apt-get install default-jdk

Thanks you!

How can I connect to 127.0.0.1:6876 (it always says "Unable to connect")

[Evil-Knievel]

How can I connect to 127.0.0.1:6876 (it always says "Unable to connect")

Did you compile the client? sh ./compile.sh
Did you run the client? sh ./run.sh

[anhpt192]

How can I connect to 127.0.0.1:6876 (it always says "Unable to connect")

Did you compile the client? sh ./compile.sh
Did you run the client? sh ./run.sh

Not yes, i'm trying now!

[anhpt192]

How can I connect to 127.0.0.1:6876 (it always says "Unable to connect")

Did you compile the client? sh ./compile.sh
Did you run the client? sh ./run.sh

EK, i have installed Java Version 8 Update 101 (build 1.8.0_101-b13) on windows 8 - 64bit at C:\Program Files\Java
Should i change any thing in file compile.sh

#!/bin/sh
CP=conf/:classes/:lib/*
SP=src/java/

/bin/rm -f nxt.jar
/bin/rm -rf classes
/bin/mkdir -p classes/

javac -sourcepath ${SP} -classpath ${CP} -d classes/ src/java/evil/ElasticPL/* src/java/nxt/*.java src/java/nxt/*/*.java  || exit 1

echo "nxt class files compiled successfully"


I tried run ./compile.sh but it says ./compile.sh: line 9: javac: command not found

[josegines]

Explorer Live!

http://31.178.227.21/

In this moment, my wallet 14557 blocks and Blockexplorer 14320

Blockexplorer is stop?

[unvoid]

We could think about adding the work features to the explorer. Maybe a list of active work, their current status, their bounties and some graphs or so?

Sure. I've seen some commands you prepared in nxt.http dedicated to PoW so I'll try to implement them in coming days.

[unvoid]

How can I connect to 127.0.0.1:6876 (it always says "Unable to connect")

Did you compile the client? sh ./compile.sh
Did you run the client? sh ./run.sh

EK, i have installed Java Version 8 Update 101 (build 1.8.0_101-b13) on windows 8 - 64bit at C:\Program Files\Java
Should i change any thing in file compile.sh

#!/bin/sh
CP=conf/:classes/:lib/*
SP=src/java/

/bin/rm -f nxt.jar
/bin/rm -rf classes
/bin/mkdir -p classes/

javac -sourcepath ${SP} -classpath ${CP} -d classes/ src/java/evil/ElasticPL/* src/java/nxt/*.java src/java/nxt/*/*.java  || exit 1

echo "nxt class files compiled successfully"


I tried run ./compile.sh but it says ./compile.sh: line 9: javac: command not found

Right now we don't have compile script dedicated for Windows (I think it will be present around mainnet date). So if you want to test Elastic and you don't have any Linux/MacOSX machine you can install VirtualBox, install Ubuntu and try XEL there (I know it's big effort but as I said, there is no compiling script supporting Win right now).

[unvoid]

Explorer Live!

http://31.178.227.21/

In this moment, my wallet 14557 blocks and Blockexplorer 14320

Blockexplorer is stop?

No, blockexplorer is fine but network isn't. So maybe your node or node connected to blockexplorer is on a fork. We all waiting for @EK as he trying to prepare new client. He is working hard for few last days on it. Stop your node, delete nxt_test_db dir, wait 10min (for any ban expire) and start it again. You should be on the same chain as blockexplorer.