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2. Someone ( a tricky one) could intentionally "miss" the vote, then redeem the coins using his address 2, then come here and claim his coins were stolen due to this vote, which was not aware of, and claim this was illegal, and he has to get his coins now. A dirty scenario, but we have all kinds of people in crypto, so it is possible.
To avoid all those complications, I would suppose, its better to stick to the terms, launch without that feature, and see if there is a problem at all. If there is, resolve manually case by case.
Sadly, the described scenario sounds likely. So, I'd say again, don't. Leave it as is. And no voting on it, either. This is a prime example of what could happen if a bunch of uninformed people don't bother to do their research and vote on a scenario, because "what could go wrong?". Resolving these issues manually would only work before the mainnet goes live, I suspect. Unless there is some kind of master key implemented (which I hope there isn't  ), the XEL can only be accessed with the right private key, just as if they were in a wallet (right?). This is why these things must be taken care of now. |
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Resolving these issues manually would only work before the mainnet goes live, I suspect. Unless there is some kind of master key implemented (which I hope there isn't ), the XEL can only be accessed with the right private key, just as if they were in a wallet (right?). This is why these things must be taken care of now. A "safe-harbour" key was actually also one of my ideas :-) Good to hear what you guys think about it ... nada! Well, the thing is: I am just coding that stuff. I am not "running" anything, I am not "promising" anything and I actually just want every one to be happy with the code. In fact, I do not even have any contract or so ... I am just "proposing" a code, and if the majority of XEL users use it, then they - by consensus - decided to use it in the way I proposed. I (and others here who regularily work on XEL) am/are nothing more than code monkeys. I also believe it's best to just stick to the rules, and do not mess with anything regarding the allocation of XEL at all. But there are also other side cases ... what about those who submitted from a multisig wallet of which one key belongs to coinbase? We really need to discuss this here and come to some sort of conclusion. Don't get me wrong ;-) I prefer to stick to the rules, but I would feel sad for those who cant get their XEL because they did not unterstand the terms. PS: Whoever invented this donation scheme sucks balls. I have never seen anything that chaotic like this. What a shame! |
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Don't get me wrong ;-) I prefer to stick to the rules, but I would feel sad for those who cant get their XEL because they did not unterstand the terms.
PS: Whoever invented this donation scheme sucks balls. I have never seen anything that chaotic like this. What a shame!
I get that. As a "bigger" holder of XEL i would be willing to donate some XEL to those poor souls in the future. Lets assume some time went down the river and we have some accounts where they dont have the keys but no one else is declaring that this account belongs to him. THEN i would be willing to donate some of my XEL to those folks. edit: and btw you will obv be rewarded very well in the coming days/weeks. be it it BTC or XEL. lets see what lannister says when he comes back. there is no doubt about it that you deserve it. |
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November 16, 2016, 12:29:35 AM |
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sorry for this question..
i didnt understand that. What will donated btcs do? who did take those btcs(about 600btc). where will those btcs use ...
i only wondering
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November 16, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
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Resolving these issues manually would only work before the mainnet goes live, I suspect. Unless there is some kind of master key implemented (which I hope there isn't ), the XEL can only be accessed with the right private key, just as if they were in a wallet (right?). This is why these things must be taken care of now. A "safe-harbour" key was actually also one of my ideas :-) Good to hear what you guys think about it ... nada! A Masterkey is a huge honeypot in its own right. I wouldn't want to be the guy responsible for it. It would probably be a Multisig solution anyway, but still: this looks dangerous. An alternative solution could be, that all XEL that hasn't been moved from the genesis addresses at a certain block height is sent to a wallet, which could turn into a development fund and could be used to give XEL to those who couldn't access it. You'd have people who didn't get that memo, too, though. At least, those could prove their ownership quite easily. Well, the thing is: I am just coding that stuff. I am not "running" anything, I am not "promising" anything and I actually just want every one to be happy with the code.
In fact, I do not even have any contract or so ... I am just "proposing" a code, and if the majority of XEL users use it, then they - by consensus - decided to use it in the way I proposed.
I (and others here who regularily work on XEL) am/are nothing more than code monkeys.
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I quite agree (well, not about the "code monkey" part), but you have to keep in mind that legally, we are in practically uncharted territory. I am less afraid about some lazy guy not getting their XEL (and whose BTC were declared to be a donation anyway), as I am for you, Lannister or anyone else to have to deal with a lengthy, complicated and probably unique lawsuit. |
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November 16, 2016, 12:36:43 AM |
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sorry for this question..
i didnt understand that. What will donated btcs do? who did take those btcs(about 600btc). where will those btcs use ...
i only wondering
donated BTC are in Lannister's hands. he gives them for bounties and development work. so he will give EK lots of them i suppose. |
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November 16, 2016, 12:45:58 AM |
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sorry for this question..
i didnt understand that. What will donated btcs do? who did take those btcs(about 600btc). where will those btcs use ...
i only wondering
donated BTC are in Lannister's hands. he gives them for bounties and development work. so he will give EK lots of them i suppose. donated BTC should use to elastic Foundation like eth,btc Foundation for devoloping elastic core or supports..
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Resolving these issues manually would only work before the mainnet goes live, I suspect. Unless there is some kind of master key implemented (which I hope there isn't ), the XEL can only be accessed with the right private key, just as if they were in a wallet (right?). This is why these things must be taken care of now. A "safe-harbour" key was actually also one of my ideas :-) Good to hear what you guys think about it ... nada! A Masterkey is a huge honeypot in its own right. I wouldn't want to be the guy responsible for it. It would probably be a Multisig solution anyway, but still: this looks dangerous. An alternative solution could be, that all XEL that hasn't been moved from the genesis addresses at a certain block height is sent to a wallet, which could turn into a development fund and could be used to give XEL to those who couldn't access it. You'd have people who didn't get that memo, too, though. At least, those could prove their ownership quite easily. Well, the thing is: I am just coding that stuff. I am not "running" anything, I am not "promising" anything and I actually just want every one to be happy with the code.
In fact, I do not even have any contract or so ... I am just "proposing" a code, and if the majority of XEL users use it, then they - by consensus - decided to use it in the way I proposed.
I (and others here who regularily work on XEL) am/are nothing more than code monkeys.
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I quite agree (well, not about the "code monkey" part), but you have to keep in mind that legally, we are in practically uncharted territory. I am less afraid about some lazy guy not getting their XEL (and whose BTC were declared to be a donation anyway), as I am for you, Lannister or anyone else to have to deal with a lengthy, complicated and probably unique lawsuit. You would need to give people lots of time to redeem their XEL. People might not be able to for various reasons for weeks, months or even a year. They shouldn't have to forfeit their investment. |
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November 16, 2016, 03:18:30 AM |
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Will both compressed and uncompressed addresses be supported?
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November 16, 2016, 03:24:30 AM |
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Looking this project closely.
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November 16, 2016, 03:30:30 AM |
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is it possible to integrate more features?
like distributed storage, like storj/sia?
I think EK is a code magician.
if so, ppl will donate more XEL to the foundation or to EK himself.
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Hi all,I got compile err,some one can help? ^
Symbol: Class JSONObject
Location: Class TransactionImpl
src\java\nxt\Attachment.java:42: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
private AbstractAttachment(JSONObject attachmentData) {
^
Symbol: Class JSONObject
Location: Class AbstractAttachment
src\java\nxt\Attachment.java:110: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
final void putMyJSON(JSONObject json) {
^
Symbol: Class JSONObject
Location: Class EmptyAttachment
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:178: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doGet(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throw
s ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class HttpServletRequest
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:178: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doGet(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throw
s ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class HttpServletResponse
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:178: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doGet(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throw
s ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class ServletException
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:183: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doPost(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) thro
ws ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class HttpServletRequest
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:183: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doPost(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) thro
ws ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class HttpServletResponse
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:183: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
protected void doPost(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) thro
ws ServletException, IOException {
^
Symbol: Class ServletException
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:187: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
private void process(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throw
s IOException {
^
Symbol: Class HttpServletRequest
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\APIServlet.java:187: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
private void process(HttpServletRequest req, HttpServletResponse resp) throw
s IOException {
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Symbol: Class HttpServletResponse
Location: Class APIServlet
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:30: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_LANGUAGE = missing("program
language");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:31: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_PROGAMCODE = missing("progra
m code");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:32: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_BOUNTYHOOK = missing("bounty
hook");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:33: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_NUMBER_INPUTVARS = missing("
number of input variables");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:34: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_NUMBER_OUTPUTVARS = missing(
"number of output variables");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:35: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_BOUNTYLIMIT = missing("bount
y limit");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:36: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_WORK_NAME_LENGTH = incorre
ct("work title");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:37: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_MULTIPLICATOR = incorrect(
"multiplicator");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:39: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_VARIABLES_NUM = incorrect(
"number of input or output variables");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:40: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_WORK_LANGUAGE = incorrect(
"work language");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:41: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_INPUT_NUMBER = incorrect("
number of inputs");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
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src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:42: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_AMOUNT = incorrect("attach
ed amount");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
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src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:43: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_AST_RECURSION = incorrect(
"ast tree depth");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:45: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_SYNTAX = incorrect("syntax
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
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src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:46: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_PROGRAM = incorrect("progr
am code");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:47: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_BOUNTYHOOK = incorrect("bo
unty hook");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:48: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_WORKID = incorrect("workId
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:49: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_BOOLEAN = incorrect("boole
an");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:50: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_HASH = incorrect("hash");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:52: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_XEL_PER_POW = incorrect("p
ow price in XEL");
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Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:53: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_XEL_PER_BOUNTY = incorrect
("bounty price in XEL");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:54: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_XEL_PER_POW = missing("pow p
rice in XEL");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:55: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_FIELDS_REDEEM = missing("add
ress or secp_signatures");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:57: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_XEL_PER_BOUNTY = missing("bo
unty price in XEL");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:58: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_EXECUTION_TIME = incorrect
("worst case execution time");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:59: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_PUBLIC_KEY = incorrect("pu
blicKey");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:60: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_ALIAS_NAME = missing("aliasN
ame");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:61: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_ALIAS_OR_ALIAS_NAME = missin
g("alias", "aliasName");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:62: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_DEADLINE = missing("deadline
");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:63: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_DEADLINE = incorrect("dead
line");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:64: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_TRANSACTION_BYTES_OR_JSON =
missing("transactionBytes",
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:66: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_WORKID = missing("workId");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:67: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_INPUTS = missing("program in
puts");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:68: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_PASSPHRASE = missing("miner
passphrase");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:70: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_INPUTS = incorrect("inputs arr
ay");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:71: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware UNKNOWN_ORDER = unknown("order");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:72: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_HALLMARK = missing("hallmark
");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:73: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware INCORRECT_HALLMARK = incorrect("hall
mark");
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
src\java\nxt\http\JSONResponses.java:74: Error: Cannot Find Symbol
public static final JSONStreamAware MISSING_WEBSITE = missing("website")
;
^
Symbol: Class JSONStreamAware
Location: Class JSONResponses
Here is my platform. win2003 x86,git 1.8.5.2 jdk1.8 etc. $ git --version
git version 1.8.5.2.msysgit.0
$ javac -version
javac 1.8.0_111
$ java -version
java version "1.8.0_111"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_111-b14)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.111-b14, mixed mode, sharing)
C:\>ver
Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL  |
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November 16, 2016, 03:48:16 AM |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. |
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November 16, 2016, 03:51:27 AM |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! |
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November 16, 2016, 04:00:50 AM |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier. |
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November 16, 2016, 04:04:03 AM
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier. I am thinking deduction from all accounts make it fair. let alone, elastic distributed the unsold tokens evenly to all donators. with proper incentives (certain amount of XEL), make whole project sustainable. just an idea, don't know how others think about. a.) BTC in hand of Lannister is for distributed computing. ek well deserve it or even more. if it works well. b.) EK will make XEL even greater with more function like storage. c.) compared to the evenly distributed unsold tokens, something like 5% from all accounts is nothing at all. we can accept it. |
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November 16, 2016, 04:15:15 AM |
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This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.
What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.
wow，find out this. ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL jepp, we pay better than any job can do. how about we setup a foundation right now! automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK! Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier. I am thinking deduction from all accounts make it fair. Its not about fairness. Its about having an agreement. Folks entered an agreement that they donate and (eventually) get XEL. Even if 90% of holders agree it would be wrong to use force on the remaining 10%. And basically it would also raise the question: For what where those 700BTCs donated if not development? |
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November 16, 2016, 04:37:32 AM
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elastic project is %0 premined coin!
all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.
elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use by foundation
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November 16, 2016, 04:42:21 AM |
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elastic project is %0 premined coin!
all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.
elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use with foundation
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