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November 19, 2016, 07:57:27 AM
Last edit: November 19, 2016, 08:44:03 AM by ttookk
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possible bcz ray kurzweil says that "singularity is near"

may be u can put a "button" in elastic core .. that button can explode computers all over the world. this is very important for security.

The Rise of Sentinel  Grin

 Grin anyway, i understood that; you are a good man and a perfect coder..

What do u think about elastic project? Will elastic work perfectly on mainnet? Ppl will use elastic? Ppl will like elastic? Whats elastic's positive and negative things? Can be improved more?

Can you approach it critically? Can you make a general assessment?

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Ok, I'll try a more critical approach. But I have to preface this by pointing out, that I am obviously a fan of this project.

What we are aiming at here when we talk about "mainnet release" is not the be-all, end-all of Elastic. The Elastic Project will be far from finished. All we would have then, would be a box of Legos: you can build cool stuff with legos, once you get the hang of it, but if you don't, it's just a box full of multicoloured plastic. What you would need if you are not a "lego expert", is instructions, stuff that says "you want to build an airplane? Ok, this is what you do:…". And just as with legos, those plans will become more elaborate over time, not only the ones you are able to build, but plans in general. In the beginning, building instructions were merely "build a square box and you got yourself a house", now you can build Lamborghinis with moving parts.

What I am trying to say is, that at the beginning, the Elastic Project can't be more than a playground (or, if you will, workground) for nerds, for people, who are able and willing to learn ElasticPL and see what they can come up with, not necessarily to solve any real world problems yet, but to figure out how to actually use it, how to put the parts together (and how not to, as well).

The ideal future scenario would be, that in the beginning, people pop up and write code for trivial problems, like playing tic-tac-toe, solving simple math problems, like finding Pis first ten decimals, maybe (and I really hope, this is going to happen), someone will try to bruteforce "hello world".

With time, the code would become more elaborate. Also, libraries would form, that get filled with code, that was tested, so that other job authors wouldn't have to go all the way again, but could build their code by copy and pasting what is there already.

This would be the time, where the Elastic Project would prosper, where average (scientific guy) Joe/Jane could use Elastic to solve their problems, without needing a masters degree in IT and do amazing stuff with it.

The way I see it, the time just after mainnet launch will be the trickiest. A lot of people will ask "Ok, what now?" and it will look like not much is happening. As with pretty much every other coin, some people will leave the project loudly, swearing about how they feel tricked. The price will decline. There is hardly any way around this. It would be awesome to have a plan about how to help the Elastic Project survive this critical time.

If you know Asimovs Foundation trilogy, you know what we need right now Wink

… Well, I guess, it didn't turn out so critical after all.

Thoughts on that matter?
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November 19, 2016, 11:02:46 AM
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Damn, I really wish I bought some.
this project is so golden, i love it. Wish i bought more too  Roll Eyes but at least we bought some.
during ico this project was very high risk and it was very uncertain that it will succeed. high risk= high reward.
I dont like these big icos with thousands of btc donated. this is high risk=low reward Wink
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please correct my maths if i am wrong:

10 000 sat is 10 000 / 100 000 000 = 0.0001 btc

XEL market cap is then 0.0001 * 100 000 000 XEL  = 10 000 BTC = 7 500 000 usd right ?

that's still way cheaper than golem which does not have a working product yet.
true. i have oriented my price at similar projects like golem.
10K is a fair price imo not cheap and not hyped considering the project progress
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EK,pls help me.thx.

I am moving everything to maven right now. Should be finished soon.
For now, you could check out elastic pl, then "mvn compile package install"
and then do the same for elastic-core. You can then run elastic using "java -jar target/elastic-core-0.6.0.jar"

This process will be made easier soon.

Code:
$ mvn compile package install
[INFO] Scanning for projects...
[WARNING]
[WARNING] Some problems were encountered while building the effective model for elastic-core:elastic-core:jar:0.6.0
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin is missing. @ line 60, column 15
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-jar-plugin is missing. @ line 48, column 15
[WARNING]
[WARNING] It is highly recommended to fix these problems because they threaten the stability of your build.
[WARNING]
[WARNING] For this reason, future Maven versions might no longer support building such malformed projects.
[WARNING]
[INFO]                                                                        
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Building elastic-core 0.6.0
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[WARNING] The POM for elastic-pl:elastic-pl:jar:0.0.1 is missing, no dependency information available
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 0.934 s
[INFO] Finished at: 2016-11-16T20:08:12+01:00
[INFO] Final Memory: 12M/309M
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project elastic-core: Could not resolve dependencies for project elastic-core:elastic-core:jar:0.6.0: Failure to find elastic-pl:elastic-pl:jar:0.0.1 in https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of central has elapsed or updates are forced -> [Help 1]
[ERROR]
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e switch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR]
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please read the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/DependencyResolutionException

On mac

The error does not come, if you exactly follow the instruction

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For now, you could check out elastic pl, then "mvn compile package install"

 Wink  elastic-pl ist not yet in the central repository so has to be installed manually.


Code:
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 29:53 min
[INFO] Finished at: 2016-11-17T09:53:48+08:00
[INFO] Final Memory: 11M/27M
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project elastic-core: Could not resolve depend
encies for project elastic-core:elastic-core:jar:0.6.0: Could not find artifact
elastic-pl:elastic-pl:jar:0.0.1 in central (https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2
) -> [Help 1]
[ERROR]
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e swit
ch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR]
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please rea
d the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/DependencyReso
lutionException


Build failure with Maven too.Any suggestion?

git pull on elastic-pl


After sign redeem msg,I got notice,Please wait until the blockchain has finished downloading.

Any way to next step?
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November 19, 2016, 04:37:39 PM
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I think this may be helpful for those wondering how to access private keys from blockchain.info:

https://github.com/OmniLayer/omniwallet/wiki/Exporting-Private-Key-from-Blockchain.info-and-Importing-to-Omniwallet.org
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I think this may be helpful for those wondering how to access private keys from blockchain.info:

https://github.com/OmniLayer/omniwallet/wiki/Exporting-Private-Key-from-Blockchain.info-and-Importing-to-Omniwallet.org

This is extremely important. Thank you for sharing

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November 19, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Bitcore BTX - a UTXO fork of Bitcoin - since 2017
___██ WebSite
██ Telegram
___██ Github
██ Github - Releases/ Wallets
___██ SBTX Pancakeswap
██ ChainzID Explorer
___██ UTXO fork
██ Coinmarketcap.com
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November 19, 2016, 09:08:56 PM
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

i'm donated 3 times using the same address, but i only see 2, how can i claiming the missing one ?
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

whats the Bitcoin-TX?
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

Did you check using your actual BTC-Adress? The amount of coins was changed via community vote from 5 Million to 100 million, so 1.01 BTC will get you much more than 6439.84 XEL, should be more in the six figure range.
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

whats the Bitcoin-TX?

i think, his entry is this:

https://github.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/blob/master/genesis-block.json

    {
        "btc_amount": 1.01,
        "mir_amount": 6439.841049382717,
        "btc_tx": "b14c23126e8eca666f798bf65d16689408a16fe689b5e7a7ecfbaafb4db995df",
        "btc_block": 410523,
        "owner_pubkey": "0236427629974d97df7b603cdcd2735f619ff4371bea5a21595b908ab9e9b00b52"
    },
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

whats the Bitcoin-TX?

i think, his entry is this:

https://github.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/blob/master/genesis-block.json

    {
        "btc_amount": 1.01,
        "mir_amount": 6439.841049382717,
        "btc_tx": "b14c23126e8eca666f798bf65d16689408a16fe689b5e7a7ecfbaafb4db995df",
        "btc_block": 410523,
        "owner_pubkey": "0236427629974d97df7b603cdcd2735f619ff4371bea5a21595b908ab9e9b00b52"
    },

If it is, it's there:

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150   164829,6957   1JRuH2BFgtFgiMaVtCPzvnTY1PYAmEJEG

Damn, I wish, I had that much XEL…
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

you need to be in control of 1JRuH2BFgtFgiMaVtCPzvnTY1PYAmEJEG

is that your wallet or did you send from an exchange or something?
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November 19, 2016, 11:15:30 PM
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anymore, everyone talking about donation btcs,i think the mainnet so close...

i had sent two times btc to donation address about 2016 February 20-25

my first donation sent with my blockchain.info account, i havnt got private keys but i have security keywords (12 words), Ek said to me "those words is enough for getting Xels"

my second donation sent with bitcoinQT , i have wallet.dat file..

i found my enties in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21000833/Elastic/Icolist/Ico-list.txt noproblem
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Grouped by address with totals, eliminated address repetitions and sorted by XEL count. Easy to search the total XEL if u donated multiple times from the same address.


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1GYvGYrUqLGzQoErLhsegPw3nygpNFwZR9 6004095.887
2-1HPRacvTUSPXzFB1xuYkAftZ9R9kiLz3y9-1PxGBYYjjc5aKVe38s9JEwqHPinGVntyn2-1Mh1bm4MJA9LFreL5fLynKR4GEaEns4xGU 5494938.202
1Jgdk1NcMVck9nXPjJSE4LxBtG9SsEEWRy 2655939.481
1LovVqqwnLYzVUjFsycPDtx334BmCtcha7 2585185.846
2-1AJxRNCFEgXQYjEKQNuFFkRbXtETg63KEb-14E9Fyoyt4a1USHPXhsBKAUrbEkYwyN4bt-18D6iK5n6H9jetHKJBReWaKT2NdG6Y9XD9 2449378.556
1KDm91GSEjob7PyVF5GUPmSiMg4KMSAXsY 2267532.61
1K5pv63rag715mN2REYcfMbQs7RyukPuSK 2200220.06
16XNyCf9rEnn7qxPeaQPDXz4JY1FhzDbDA 1993710.366
14MKronX9pQJui5vVENveDqwKFE6bxWVk4 1546077.352
1Ahauxg3uxhcnxnSdmqKVhomz3MF61ynxA 1487727.102
1NUtkYVqjF6rmUkSrZEdmmRjcq3fgWAag3 1461472.773
1BexuDc3UUpMRuxE9YV6TqVWTv9dhEvucF 1423054.11
1Kv6jbP9JWHagfrQjjfVzMcnKEGynZ7pf3 1329550.453
1B7jF7NDfFSdToSiPvYWnHAxEUmNaMfYe 1312926.488
1EranfPkcFFAwbXDjzTix1m3AxkXjr7ZDD 1292602.401
16Ztzi7YofzJx1Wm6xreM1VsrQybcsWem5 1240974.01
1888888UhkzqRGNWBVcmkXcFXeca676BuY 1197606.69
1AZMaW5vswDpboeGfNVA1ueoNab1nfHfCe 1187799.896
1EAhDVNZK4kPAoBswQeDWeHkV4taVkqfsb 1152193.637
17GiWvV6Sb4damGNKUFzNdesBxYXG7cknm 1113593.261
13iCYHRpivtTNhYKc7sgC2AxzS3SzNTuVD 1064764.687
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12GTLir6rEfwJpShcSqYxybjoZYVhF9t8d 949881.052
13jRQ6xKNiRq7uvMFVmV9kQnPVbxRe385W 949257.9738
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14UwzH27d7YGKvkzQLbp2EbnAQErkSHTKB 893413.6397
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12oipr5BLUhanfsPy9xG5X4Foai4Gh9FNv 885658.2031
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1KKVprQg2zYLceAYbx8kJxbzGFUn6bUX1C 725713.794
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1C1ZXeQUJQGi8GL7iyjoi6zfGd4EC25981 700984.3908
1HqxgWn4yc76auxd5GTAfP1ShzHmYHg6RA 697061.3842
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1FtdAZvrTYNNkgUR6WHmM8q9r6mt2g7tT3 673696.2838
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November 20, 2016, 05:50:39 AM
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Here a little overview:

ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project

Hi,
I can't find my donation at all although I saw it on previous file that was on ICO site ...
Can someone please help me to understand this?
6439.84 XEL from 5/6/16  1.01 BTC

Thanks,
Yossi

you need to be in control of 1JRuH2BFgtFgiMaVtCPzvnTY1PYAmEJEG

is that your wallet or did you send from an exchange or something?

If that was my wallet, I would donate to Elastic much more Smiley

This is the wierd part...
I sent it from my wallet and see as it came out from it.
Also, as I said, I saw correct correct address in previous site.
But now address is wrong... I never encountered such issue before so I am clueless.
I attach image of more data.
https://s14.postimg.org/h4ql649gh/Capture_elastic.jpg

Thanks for your help
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November 20, 2016, 06:21:25 AM
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How much did you end up getting per bitcoin in the ico?
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November 20, 2016, 08:19:59 AM
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How much did you end up getting per bitcoin in the ico?

It depdends on which phase of the ico the deposit was made . The lucky ones are those who believed in this project from the beggining .

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The lucky ones are those who believed in this project from the beggining .

No one is lucky yet. But it does look promising.
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