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March 28, 2016, 08:42:19 PM
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Where did this permissions category come from?

Its pointless

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March 28, 2016, 09:58:35 PM
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Where did this permissions category come from?

Its pointless

Because, Spiccoli, to qualify as a decentralized currency, there's some problematic boxes one needs to check off in order to quantify the difference between whether MongoDB is a decentralized currency or whether Bitcoin is.


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March 28, 2016, 10:07:07 PM
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Because, Spiccoli, to qualify as a decentralized currency, there's some problematic boxes one needs to check off in order to quantify the difference between whether MongoDB is a decentralized currency or whether Bitcoin is.

Oh, dude, you are crazy. Disregard my offer to bet on 50 BTC, betting against you is more evil than taking away a candy from a kid.
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March 28, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
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Oh, dude, you are crazy. Disregard my offer to bet on 50 BTC, betting against you is more evil than taking away a candy from a kid.

What's your grievance with that statement?  That you can create a federated coin with MongoDB, so in your mind, that qualifies as a "decentralized currency"?  Distributed sure, just like PoS and IOTA, but not decentralized because it's not a permissionless ledger.  You have to draw the line somewhere and everything can't just be vague distinctions of incremental decentralization.

Where's my 50 btc?

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March 28, 2016, 10:42:12 PM
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Where's my 50 btc?

So you don't mind against that bet? Great, what escrow agents do you trust?
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March 29, 2016, 12:09:36 AM
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How many of the IOTA pumpers are new sock puppet accounts or >1 year dormant accounts that were likely purchased or left over from some previous organized pumping effort?



BTW

Qora = Java
Nxt = Java
IOTA = Java

Other cryptocurrencies in Java?

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March 29, 2016, 12:20:12 AM
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Hey smooth paranoid dude, you said it's only fuckstard are here. On the picture it's my text. Whose schizophrenic sock puppet are you? What are YOU pumping in your stupid brain??

BTW

Hey idiot, IOTA was not only written in Java, but in C# and other programming languages.

Other stupid question?
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March 29, 2016, 12:43:04 AM
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You know they are pulling out all the stops when they:

When they come up with some useless definitions, and say "Russian extortion" just to say it with nothing to tie such words to Iota

Are out in force 24 hours a day bashing Iota

Are not even attempting to make sense, just using all their effort to get as much negative crap spit out as fast as they can type



Then you know Iota is doing good!!
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March 29, 2016, 01:04:26 AM
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Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?
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March 29, 2016, 01:19:27 AM
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[Some next level shit]

 
 
Wow, I'm hard to impress, but you just blew me away.  Thanks for writing all that and articulating exactly what I felt was wrong about IOTA this whole time.   Cheesy

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Where's my 50 btc?

So you don't mind against that bet? Great, what escrow agents do you trust?

You presented terms that are too ambiguous for betting nomenclature.  Nobody would be able to decide the result.  Basically cherry picked the only somewhat ambiguous terminology out of my long post you could find and tried to turn that into a wager...

I don't know what your exact angle is.  I'm guessing you'll make a claim that the coin which hasn't been released yet supports atomic transactions across chains, then claim the outside entropy of other coins allows permissionless accumulation of coins in your network, but that's not how the game works.  You have to assume only your coin exists and you can't just borrow outside entropy from other coins that may or may not exist.

I don't really feel like guessing the other elusive but probably debunkable technicalities you might try to pull.  Did you really think it would be that easy to defeat Long r0ach silver of the high seas and Bitcoin?

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March 29, 2016, 02:09:03 AM
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Date Registered:   2014-02-02, 11:53:33

Date Registered:   2014-03-07, 15:12:00

Date Registered:   2014-03-10, 13:25:18

Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?

Smooth shame on you for hiring Sherlock Holmes.

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March 29, 2016, 03:18:05 AM
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Date Registered:   2014-01-29, 13:25:30

Date Registered:   2014-02-02, 11:53:33

Date Registered:   2014-03-07, 15:12:00

Date Registered:   2014-03-10, 13:25:18

Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?


As expected.

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Date Registered:   2014-01-20, 00:16:00

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Date Registered:   2014-01-29, 13:25:30

Date Registered:   2014-02-02, 11:53:33

Date Registered:   2014-03-07, 15:12:00

Date Registered:   2014-03-10, 13:25:18

Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?



Completely idiotic statement. Are you maybe sock puppet from our famous venerator altcoinUKwhore from IOTA community? I think so. This is irrelevant when you have registered. It's the same shit.

Here is something for you  Wink

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Dude, you believe yourself not to your shit. Ask yourself why are you research on my account? I'm flattered.  Grin

WOW AHAHAHAHAHA  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But really... The exact reason that you all write this shit here is that YOU ARE SCARED. Think logically: would anyone care for one ShitCoin? NO. But you are scared, that all you crap that you have in KingCoin will be soon only little errant LoseCoin. Is that your fear? Yes, you know it. Only this is the reason.

Want the truth? The IOTA community is BIG. Really. It's truth. I have a lot to know in our forum. Also native english speaking peoples. I asked some of them why are you not go to bitcointalk?
They don't want. One sayd me, he don't want to waste time and touch piece of shit. That stinks. It's no reason.

You idiot don't want to know the truth, you know already everything, the thruth, that IOTA is the revolutionary platform, that can make your KingCoin to ShitCoin. That's why YOU ARE SCARED.

I do not live here 24/7 in this forum.  Cheesy

If I'm interested I'm in in other forums. But only if it's something great like IOTA. So it is, dude  Grin
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March 29, 2016, 03:54:14 AM
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Hey cryptohunter Lisk scammer. This is especially for you. You spaming with your Lisk every thread and propagating your lies about IOTA everywhere, because are you afraid of Iota. You deleted my post in the self-moderated topic. Read it again:


By the way

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/03/14/can-bitteasers-blockchain-ad-network-disrupt-pay-per-click-market/#78b8ef064e22

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new technologies will be integrated into the platform, bringing their own unique advantages. One such development is IOTA, an ‘Internet-of-Things’ currency that takes a radically different approach to regular blockchain technology to deliver fee-free transactions as well as unprecedented scalability

Now also Forbes writes about IOTA. Revolutionary ideas of the Iota project becomes known everywhere.

I hope this fact will not make some envious of the IOTA project persons even more sad and serious?  Roll Eyes
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March 29, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
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Where's my 50 btc?

So you don't mind against that bet? Great, what escrow agents do you trust?

You presented terms that are too ambiguous for betting nomenclature.  Nobody would be able to decide the result.  Basically cherry picked the only somewhat ambiguous terminology out of my long post you could find and tried to turn that into a wager...

I don't know what your exact angle is.  I'm guessing you'll make a claim that the coin which hasn't been released yet supports atomic transactions across chains, then claim the outside entropy of other coins allows permissionless accumulation of coins in your network, but that's not how the game works.  You have to assume only your coin exists and you can't just borrow outside entropy from other coins that may or may not exist.

I don't really feel like guessing the other elusive but probably debunkable technicalities you might try to pull.  Did you really think it would be that easy to defeat Long r0ach silver of the high seas and Bitcoin?
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Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?

It's spotlight fallacy combined with incorrectly sampled data. Add the names to the list, please, otherwise we can't verify your data.
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You presented terms that are too ambiguous for betting nomenclature.  Nobody would be able to decide the result.  Basically cherry picked the only somewhat ambiguous terminology out of my long post you could find and tried to turn that into a wager...

I don't know what your exact angle is.  I'm guessing you'll make a claim that the coin which hasn't been released yet supports atomic transactions across chains, then claim the outside entropy of other coins allows permissionless accumulation of coins in your network, but that's not how the game works.  You have to assume only your coin exists and you can't just borrow outside entropy from other coins that may or may not exist.

I don't really feel like guessing the other elusive but probably debunkable technicalities you might try to pull.  Did you really think it would be that easy to defeat Long r0ach silver of the high seas and Bitcoin?

We will stick to your definitions quoted by me in my first post of this thread. So? You are about to lose your face if you keep making excuses. Just say that you are willing to accept the bet and we'll nail the details.
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March 29, 2016, 08:23:04 AM
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You presented terms that are too ambiguous for betting nomenclature.

Funny, it was YOU who presented the terms:

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Yes, it is true, I can technically "interact" with IOTA on a "permissionless" level, but that interaction has no purpose unless you're first able to acquire the native token of the protocol.  It doesn't really matter if you can interact with it in some meaningless way if you're not spending native coins.  

In iota you can interact in a meaningful way (sending & receiving meaningful data) without aquiring tokens, so it's permissionless. period.
If you're sure about your statement above, put up that 50BTC.
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Does anyone else find it curious that nearly all the accounts posting in support of IOTA and that expressed interest on the IOTA crowdsale thread were created at the same time, shortly after the Nxt launch, and many of them show the same long period of inactivity from 2014 until IOTA ?

It's spotlight fallacy combined with incorrectly sampled data.

And you know this how?

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Add the names to the list, please, otherwise we can't verify your data.

I don't have time to write up a detailed study. I made an observation and asked a question. Perhaps someone else would like to look more carefully.
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