IOTA - Permissioned ledger Russian extortion scheme

[Come-from-Beyond]

when does this delusion stop?

I adore cryptohunter and his insane integrity. The guy is on ignore but if I see "This user is currently ignored" post of him I know that it's again about the "secret ICO" and the request to sell him bitcoins for 2$. In our windy times this integrity is a calm cozy corner where I rest time to time. Don't take this away from me, please...

[ozboom]

The last con from belarus was enough. We don't need another one.

CH, from your signature it looks like you put money into Waves.
Did you check the team? Sasha Ivanov, Ivan Shcheglov, Yuri Gagarin,...
How did you get involved in this Russian scam?

[r0ach]

Uh oh

[Come-from-Beyond]

Uh oh

Poor CIYAM, I didn't expect plain lie from him, but I don't blame him, it's all alcohol...

[smooth]

Discuss: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492837.0

[AgeraS]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

[r0ach]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

And then Come from Beyond's sidekick (Sergio of IOTA) attempted to get pull requests done to make it easier for him to patent troll Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5102

https://github.com/BlockheaderNonce2/bitcoin/wiki

After patent trolling Bitcoin, they team up to release an IPO scamcoin named IOTA.  People like Come from Turkmenistan and Sergio have spent a lot of time in Bitcoin with no payday, so they get desperate looking for some kind of cash grab to monetize their time spent and come up with these scams.

[tangleNinja]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

And then Come from Beyond's sidekick (Sergio of IOTA) attempted to get pull requests done to make it easier for him to patent troll Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5102

https://github.com/BlockheaderNonce2/bitcoin/wiki

After patent trolling Bitcoin, they team up to release an IPO scamcoin named IOTA.  People like Come from Turkmenistan and Sergio have spent a lot of time in Bitcoin with no payday, so they get desperate looking for some kind of cash grab to monetize their time spent and come up with these scams.

Sure you got the right Sergio?

[r0ach]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

And then Come from Beyond's sidekick (Sergio of IOTA) attempted to get pull requests done to make it easier for him to patent troll Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5102

https://github.com/BlockheaderNonce2/bitcoin/wiki

After patent trolling Bitcoin, they team up to release an IPO scamcoin named IOTA.  People like Come from Turkmenistan and Sergio have spent a lot of time in Bitcoin with no payday, so they get desperate looking for some kind of cash grab to monetize their time spent and come up with these scams.

Sure you got the right Sergio?

He's listed in the pull request.  Two guys seem to have been attempting to modify Bitcoin to make ASIC boost more effective so they can attempt to patent troll Bitcoin to death afterwards.  And hilariously, one of these guys seems to be affiliated with IOTA.  They had to know full well nobody is going to stand for that shit.  The Chinese aren't paying any royalties.  

The only possible outcome of their actions would be mining wouldn't occur in any first world nation that respects patents, or Bitcoin developers shut down the boost making his patent useless.  The result of his actions can be considered nothing besides patent trolling to waste everyone's time while he has no chance of success anyway.

[LiQio]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

And then Come from Beyond's sidekick (Sergio of IOTA) attempted to get pull requests done to make it easier for him to patent troll Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5102

https://github.com/BlockheaderNonce2/bitcoin/wiki

After patent trolling Bitcoin, they team up to release an IPO scamcoin named IOTA.  People like Come from Turkmenistan and Sergio have spent a lot of time in Bitcoin with no payday, so they get desperate looking for some kind of cash grab to monetize their time spent and come up with these scams.

Sure you got the right Sergio?

He's listed in the pull request.  Two guys seem to have been attempting to modify Bitcoin to make ASIC boost more effective so they can attempt to patent troll Bitcoin to death afterwards.  And hilariously, one of these guys seems to be affiliated with IOTA.  They had to know full well nobody is going to stand for that shit.  The Chinese aren't paying any royalties.  

The only possible outcome of their actions would be mining wouldn't occur in any first world nation that respects patents, or Bitcoin developers shut down the boost making his patent useless.  The result of his actions can be considered nothing besides patent trolling to waste everyone's time while he has no chance of success anyway.

What exactly is the role of CfB in the above mentioned pull request?
Are you implying that CfB is Timo Hanke?

[achimsmile]

Come-From-Beyond did some work for me in 2013 -- I never had any problems and he was generally quite helpful and easy going.

And then Come from Beyond's sidekick (Sergio of IOTA) attempted to get pull requests done to make it easier for him to patent troll Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5102

https://github.com/BlockheaderNonce2/bitcoin/wiki

After patent trolling Bitcoin, they team up to release an IPO scamcoin named IOTA.  People like Come from Turkmenistan and Sergio have spent a lot of time in Bitcoin with no payday, so they get desperate looking for some kind of cash grab to monetize their time spent and come up with these scams.

Sure you got the right Sergio?

He's listed in the pull request.  Two guys seem to have been attempting to modify Bitcoin to make ASIC boost more effective so they can attempt to patent troll Bitcoin to death afterwards.  And hilariously, one of these guys seems to be affiliated with IOTA.  They had to know full well nobody is going to stand for that shit.  The Chinese aren't paying any royalties.  

The only possible outcome of their actions would be mining wouldn't occur in any first world nation that respects patents, or Bitcoin developers shut down the boost making his patent useless.  The result of his actions can be considered nothing besides patent trolling to waste everyone's time while he has no chance of success anyway.

Sergio OF IOTA, cfb's sidekick, you have no idea.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Sergio_Demian_Lerner
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-sergio-lerner-security-role/

Sergio, Sergey, Turkmenistan, Belarus... it's all the same.
Looks like you should be thankful, because he reviews Bitcoin's security. And looks like he reviewed IOTA's security too.

I drove a Ferrari once. Call me achimsmile OF Ferrari, Enzo's sidekick.

[cryptohunter]

r0ach, if you don't have 100 BTC we could do, for example, 14. There is nothing bad in admitting that you are not as rich as other Bitcoin Maximalists, who use all dirty tricks in their repertoires to save Bitcoin from total collapse.

Just because you have a ton of BTC from the first big ICO scam NXT1 that you've now fully exited from there is no need to try and sound impressive by throwing your weight around.

IOTA (nxt2) is your second attempt at a large ICO scam - get back to working on that latest scam so it can get to an exchange some time this year.

Rather than you and 20 pals hoarding it all telling us how great it is and we must buy some privately for 50x ICO stealth scam prices put it out to exchanges asap. Let's see how it fairs on the free market.

If you used your talents to produce something decent and fair perhaps you would make more returns than from these constant ico scams you can't pull yourself away from.

Stop trying to ransom off iota whilst holding back supply. Get the gui out and get it on exchange. Let's see all the great and must have benefits of this new token in real world usage.

CH you can't keep saying the same things over and over all over the place Im mean all over the place. you have the same story and it's not real.

I see some of others here are full of shit too but not all the time, they are intelligent. They don't just say lies over and over and their only move. These guys are at least very smart.

You coming on threads with pasting this secret IPO thing of yours. No where is the place but definitely this is not the place this is a thread for intelligent people. Even if they bullcrap sometimes its at least based on something smart. An idea, or different way of looking at things.

you tell lies over and over, when proof is ask = nothing

I hear you say it was secret ipo and it s an advertised one. It had some threads you were in and made PRE ANN, an ann, a website. more than month of pre ipo threads and news and threads in altcoin discussion area of threads. Then a month of the real ann, and the ann thread got activity so it was almost always on the first announcemnt page. Then there was a few MORE altcoin discussion area threads that were created by the community member.

YOU EVEN TALKED IN SOME SO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER NUTCASE

after all of that there was also an interview in multiple cryptocurrency news websites.

told you everybody a thousand times maybe more and you just keep saying it was a secret ico while many many people demonstrate to you that these words you continue paste and paste eveerywhere makes it you look crazy. now there are two altcoin dissision area threads about how crasyness you are.

when does this delusion stop?

Perhaps I am crazy?? or perhaps you're a scam promoter ?? who can say.

Ah sorry. Haven't been on here much of late.

I see you have not read my posts correctly. Else you have read them and choose to misrepresent what I have posted.t I see you're new and perhaps too have limited comprehension of the English language so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

In comparing the IOTA ico with other big ico's it was obviously under advertised and the numbers speak for themselves. Compare it to ethereum, maid, lisk, any big ico. These people have been around longer than those running those other ICO's. Most consider the ICO as an insider scam. The polls I conducted clearly demonstrated that IOTA should have been advertised harder as with all the other large ICO's. Their argument that they did not want to waste money on paying for sig campaigns or social media campaigns is just plain illogical since it would have raised far far more ICO development funds anyway. I think LISK accumulated 16x more than Iota. So to be clear LISK has 16x more development funds than IOTA does in BTC raised.

The only reason to under advertise an ICO is to accumulate as larger % of the minting as you can so as to have total control of the market and therefore able to manipulate the price.

Anyway where is it?? let's see it released and working well for a few months before we start to evaluate the pro's and con's of this currency.

I see mostly only a bunch of sub 200 post accounts most sub 100 puppet accounts promoting or protecting this dubious scheme. Is a full scam that will be dumped over a period of time for when they set up a new scheme. Time will tell.

[cryptohunter]

The last con from belarus was enough. We don't need another one.

CH, from your signature it looks like you put money into Waves.
Did you check the team? Sasha Ivanov, Ivan Shcheglov, Yuri Gagarin,...
How did you get involved in this Russian scam?

Wrong. Please read more before posting incorrect information.

Is it a scam or not??? who can say. Nobody knows as yet. Same with all of these Ico's

[LiQio]

[...] it was obviously under advertised [...]

This is brilliant.
But you should not leave us laughing without providing your definition of "under advertised".
Let me guess:
- Under advertised = I missed an opportunity for trading profits.
- Balanced advertised = I made small profit.
- Perfectly advertised = I made huge profit.
Was the turnaround of Apple also under advertised? Was Nokia maybe over advertised?
Keep'em coming 

[r0ach]

Sergio OF IOTA, cfb's sidekick, you have no idea.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Sergio_Demian_Lerner
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-sergio-lerner-security-role/

Sergio, Sergey, Turkmenistan, Belarus... it's all the same.
Looks like you should be thankful, because he reviews Bitcoin's security. And looks like he reviewed IOTA's security too.

I drove a Ferrari once. Call me achimsmile OF Ferrari, Enzo's sidekick.

I know who he is.  Just because he reviewed Bitcoin code doesn't mean he's not patent trolling Bitcoin now.  The result of those actions can be nothing positive for himself, because like I said, the Chinese aren't going to pay any royalties, and nobody else is either.  The code would just be changed to nullify those patents.  All he's doing is attempting to negatively effect Bitcoin for no reason (i.e. patent trolling).  Mark Karpeles was in the Bitcoin Foundation too.

[cryptohunter]

[...] it was obviously under advertised [...]

This is brilliant.
But you should not leave us laughing without providing your definition of "under advertised".
Let me guess:
- Under advertised = I missed an opportunity for trading profits.
- Balanced advertised = I made small profit.
- Perfectly advertised = I made huge profit.
Was the turnaround of Apple also under advertised? Was Nokia maybe over advertised?
Keep'em coming  

Keep laughing whilst the majority of the board keeps considering it a poorly advertised ICO compared to the other large ICO's on this board.

Let's compare apples with apples.

Why don't you spend some time comparing IOTA's ico with ethereum, lisk, waves, maid, etc rather than trying divert to other pointless comparisons.

Remember this LISK has 16x IOTA's development budget. They can hire a far superior team, they can create a far superior product. Lisk is like 30M cap. The unrealistic figures thrown around the iota insider ico scam are ridiculous.

Is lisk better than IOTA? who can say but at least they gave a far better opportunity for everyone to invest as did ethereum. I did not invest in ethereum and yet I can not say it looks like an insider scam ICO because of the POW phase. Hinting I am ONLY calling iota out for being an insider ico scam because i did not invest is not a valid claim.

Release it. Let's see it tested in the wild. Let's see how secure it is and what the pros and cons are. If it is even useful and if it is secure then hopefully someone else just clones it and conducts a fairer initial distribution.

[LiQio]

[...] it was obviously under advertised [...]

This is brilliant.
But you should not leave us laughing without providing your definition of "under advertised".
Let me guess:
- Under advertised = I missed an opportunity for trading profits.
- Balanced advertised = I made small profit.
- Perfectly advertised = I made huge profit.
Was the turnaround of Apple also under advertised? Was Nokia maybe over advertised?
Keep'em coming  

Keep laughing whilst the majority of the board keeps considering it a poorly advertised ICO compared to the other large ICO's on this board.

Let's compare apples with apples.

Why don't you spend some time comparing IOTA's ico with ethereum, lisk, waves, maid, etc rather than trying divert to other pointless comparisons.

Remember this LISK has 16x IOTA's development budget. They can hire a far superior team, they can create a far superior product. Lisk is like 30M cap. The unrealistic figures thrown around the iota insider ico scam are ridiculous.

Is lisk better than IOTA? who can say but at least they gave a far better opportunity for everyone to invest as did ethereum. I did not invest in ethereum and yet I can not say it looks like an insider scam ICO because of the POW phase. Hinting I am ONLY calling iota out for being an insider ico scam because i did not invest is not a valid claim.

Release it. Let's see it tested in the wild. Let's see how secure it is and what the pros and cons are. If it is even useful and if it is secure then hopefully someone else just clones it and conducts a fairer initial distribution.

Man, didn't know that Waves and Maid had ICOs - must have been totally under advertised.
Probably they hid it from me on purpose.
Honestly I've never heard of most coins on Poloniex - totally under advertised stuff. Mean.

Try harder and please finally show us your whitepaper "how to advertise correctly".

[Pedagang]

[...] it was obviously under advertised [...]

This is brilliant.
But you should not leave us laughing without providing your definition of "under advertised".
Let me guess:
- Under advertised = I missed an opportunity for trading profits.
- Balanced advertised = I made small profit.
- Perfectly advertised = I made huge profit.
Was the turnaround of Apple also under advertised? Was Nokia maybe over advertised?
Keep'em coming  

Keep laughing whilst the majority of the board keeps considering it a poorly advertised ICO compared to the other large ICO's on this board.

Let's compare apples with apples.

Why don't you spend some time comparing IOTA's ico with ethereum, lisk, waves, maid, etc rather than trying divert to other pointless comparisons.

Remember this LISK has 16x IOTA's development budget. They can hire a far superior team, they can create a far superior product. Lisk is like 30M cap. The unrealistic figures thrown around the iota insider ico scam are ridiculous.

Is lisk better than IOTA? who can say but at least they gave a far better opportunity for everyone to invest as did ethereum. I did not invest in ethereum and yet I can not say it looks like an insider scam ICO because of the POW phase. Hinting I am ONLY calling iota out for being an insider ico scam because i did not invest is not a valid claim.

Release it. Let's see it tested in the wild. Let's see how secure it is and what the pros and cons are. If it is even useful and if it is secure then hopefully someone else just clones it and conducts a fairer initial distribution.

Man, didn't know that Waves and Maid had ICOs - must have been totally under advertised.
Probably they hid it from me on purpose.
Honestly I've never heard of most coins on Poloniex - totally under advertised stuff. Mean.

Try harder and please finally show us your whitepaper "how to advertise correctly".

not it gets free advertisement everyday on coinmarketcap

[aleksand]

IOTA was very suspect-able for me from the very beginning, Majority of coins in hands of few goons, and most people are Arabian, I will not invest a single penny in this pyramid.

[LiQio]

IOTA was very suspect-able for me from the very beginning, Majority of coins in hands of few goons, and most people are Arabian, I will not invest a single penny in this pyramid.

Maybe you should ask for a change of thread subject, it mentions "Russian"