[DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread

[stan.distortion]

You're clutching at straws now Maybe too recent for you, here's part of a 2015 progress report:
https://dashtalk.org/threads/dashs-incredible-2015-and-a-gaze-into-the-crystal-balls-2016.7576/

Achievements

    Technical / Development
        Stable implementation of the 2nd tier
        Added InstantX instant transactions: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/darkcoin-now-supports-instant-transactions/
        Blockchain based governance and network-funded budgeting system: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dash-implement-decentralized-governance-system/
        Upgrade from Litecoin to Bitcoin Core codebase
        Release of the Dash wallet version 11
        Release of the Dash wallet version 12
        Added support for multi Masternode configurations from a single wallet
        Improved DarkSend speed and efficiency
        Implementation of the project governance framework
        Improvements to Masternode payment frequency
        Implementation of the Electrum-Dash wallet (together with TREZOR implementation): https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Hardware Wallets
        Implementation of the Apple iPhone wallet: https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/iPhone - DashWallet v.0.8.8
        Implementation of the Android wallet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.darkcoin.wallet
        Launch of Dash Evolution (3rd Tier, decentralized social data storage, social network functionality, an identity system, a decentralized API): https://www.dash.org/evolution/

    Marketing
        Re-branded Darkcoin to Dash
        New website coinciding with rebranding. More content, new design and multilingual (Chinese, Russian and Spanish)
        dash.org domain purchase
        Launched new website design project
        Creation of "What is Dash?" video and translated it to 20 languages:
        Presentation at Barcelona Bitcoin Meetup:
        Presentation at Bitcoin Wednesday in Amsterdam:
            Dash keynote in October and next two sessions in November and December
            Dash as a sponsor of Bitcoin Wednesday
            New contacts and relationships taken from the event
        Presentation at FinTech Amsterdam:
        LaBITconf 2015 in Mexico:
        Evan's keynote during the conference
        New contacts and business relationships with key crypto industry representatives
        Tennis open advertisement
        Multiple community videos and marketing campaigns
        First Dash music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ8U5F8V1U
    Business development
        Establishment of new relationships
            Bitcoin Wednesday
            LaBITConf relationship and participation in the conference
            Koinbanx relationship established during conference in Mexico
            North American Bitcoin Conference in Miami
            Transform PR - they will support our PR and marketing efforts
        Merchants and services
            Initiated project of Dash integration with Lamassu BTMs
            Trezor hardware wallet for Dash
            Genesis Mining https://www.genesis-mining.com/ (offering cloud mining services for Dash)
            Additional merchants, for more details go to: https://dashtalk.org/threads/merchant-directory-listing-updated-oct-2015.3445/
    PR / Social Media
        Extended Social Media Pages:
            13 Pages (daily updates)
            4-5 Chat Groups (incl, Slack, Telegram, IRC,....)
        China (as they can not access dash.org)
            Banner Ads on 8btc
            8btc Community/ Wallet download page / Dash Section/ translations (100% News)
            Extended Social Media (QQ Group's)
            www.dashpay.cn ready but not launched yet
        Spain
            Banner Ads
            Translation / Publishing News / Giveaway
            Extended Social Media (FB page)
        Portugal
            Banner Ads
            Translation / Publishing News / Giveaway
            Extended Social Media (FB page + Telegram Chat Group)
        Russia
            http://dash.org.ru
            Translation / Publishing News / a lot of community PR
            Extended Social Media (FB page)
        Wiki + YouTube (Guides)
            YouTube 502 subscribers, 56,132 views, 120 Videos (incl different languages + Subtitles)
            Dash Wiki (99% up to date, incl Guides, Videos, Explanations, Help, Q n A,....)
    Orgnizational
        Dash Strategy: https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash Strategy
        Mission and Vision statement: https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-mission-and-vision-statement.4998/
        New core team members: moocowmoo, fulltimegeek, balu, __kot__ and many others
        Migration to Slack and defined roles in our virtual organization

(Continued...)

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Good morning everyone.

I see that we've had another visit from the school-boy bullies overnight. They know their stuff, and are armed with just the right spin and innuendo to make you believe their narrative.

Unfortunately for them however, as I've clearly challenged them earlier in this thread, they don't have a single shred of solid evidence to back up their claims. Dash is a professional, inclusive, optimistic project with clear goals to become the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money.

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

I invite you to join us in Dash Nation.

Respectfully,

Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder)

[iCEBREAKER]

I see that we've had another visit from the school-boy bullies overnight. They know their stuff, and are armed with just the right spin and innuendo to make you believe their narrative.

Unfortunately for them however, as I've clearly challenged them earlier in this thread, they don't have a single shred of solid evidence to back up their claims. Dash is a professional, inclusive, optimistic project with clear goals to become the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money.

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

[extensive spam link collection removed]

Dash is objectively defined by the facts of the matter.  The instamine is a fact, and it was probably not "accidental."

You are insulting the intelligence of people like Tone Vays and Debora Meeks.  They are not victims of "spin" and "innuendo."

They made up their own minds based on the facts.

[qwizzie]

Proposal: DS Liquidity Providers v2

https://dashtalk.org/threads/proposal-ds-liquidity-providers-v2.8668/
https://www.dashwhale.org/p/ds-liquidity-v2

Liquidity Provider reimbursement proposal

https://dashtalk.org/threads/liquidity-provider-reimbursement-proposal.8669/
https://www.dashwhale.org/p/LP-reimbursment

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

I see that we've had another visit from the school-boy bullies overnight. They know their stuff, and are armed with just the right spin and innuendo to make you believe their narrative.

Unfortunately for them however, as I've clearly challenged them earlier in this thread, they don't have a single shred of solid evidence to back up their claims. Dash is a professional, inclusive, optimistic project with clear goals to become the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money.

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

[extensive spam link collection removed]

Dash is objectively defined by the facts of the matter.  The instamine is a fact, and it was probably not "accidental."

You are insulting the intelligence of people like Tone Vays and Debora Meeks.  They are not victims of "spin" and "innuendo."

They made up their own minds based on the facts.

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

iCEBREAKER, I love it when you come here and prove my points for me. We're going to make a great team!

[iCEBREAKER]

I see that we've had another visit from the school-boy bullies overnight. They know their stuff, and are armed with just the right spin and innuendo to make you believe their narrative.

Unfortunately for them however, as I've clearly challenged them earlier in this thread, they don't have a single shred of solid evidence to back up their claims. Dash is a professional, inclusive, optimistic project with clear goals to become the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money.

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

[extensive spam link collection removed]

Dash is objectively defined by the facts of the matter.  The instamine is a fact, and it was probably not "accidental."

You are insulting the intelligence of people like Tone Vays and Debora Meeks.  They are not victims of "spin" and "innuendo."

They made up their own minds based on the facts.

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

iCEBREAKER, I love it when you come here and prove my points for me. We're going to make a great team!

I can help you with marketing.

DASH - It might not be a scam!<sup>*

*</sup>It's probably a scam.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

I see that we've had another visit from the school-boy bullies overnight. They know their stuff, and are armed with just the right spin and innuendo to make you believe their narrative.

Unfortunately for them however, as I've clearly challenged them earlier in this thread, they don't have a single shred of solid evidence to back up their claims. Dash is a professional, inclusive, optimistic project with clear goals to become the true digital cash Satoshi envisioned, the Internet of Money.

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

[extensive spam link collection removed]

Dash is objectively defined by the facts of the matter.  The instamine is a fact, and it was probably not "accidental."

You are insulting the intelligence of people like Tone Vays and Debora Meeks.  They are not victims of "spin" and "innuendo."

They made up their own minds based on the facts.

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

iCEBREAKER, I love it when you come here and prove my points for me. We're going to make a great team!

I can help you with marketing.

DASH - It might not be a scam!<sup>*

*</sup>It's probably a scam.

Thanks! You're a fine person.

[generalizethis]

The school -boy bullies don't define Dash. We define ourselves. Thanks for reading and giving us the opportunity.

The "bullies" are the only thing that keeps this from a circle jerk "Oh, Evan, such genius!" of like minded instminers and coin centralizers that make the Bitcoin Devs puke in their mouths whenever Satoshi's name is invoked as some sort of faux approval worthy Oxaccao's fake PM from Satoshi.

Thanks for #6 TaoOfCentralization https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.msg14472374#msg14472374

[smooth]

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

I'm glad we now agree that the instamine was probably not accidental. Good decision! It was probably untenable to trying to scam new investors with the claim it was all a big accident and, "Whoops! I instamined again!".

For anyone following along

1. Evan had at least two years of experience with crypto before launching Dash. There was no "lack of experience" as you claim. (Your statement about what "caused mistakes to be made" was opinion, by the way. I'm glad we have agreed to exclude opinion from this thread.)

2. Evan stated months ahead of the launch that he was working on a "for-profit" coin launch.

3. Evan deliberately withheld the development and feature plans until after the end of the instqamine.

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

5. Evan later cut the mining rewards and coin supply, increasing the effective size of the instamine by a factor of four or more.

6. In total, the instamine of 2 million coins represents over approximately 30% of the current supply of Dash.

7. "Official Communication" from Dash blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

EDIT: corrected for new current supply

[qwizzie]

You can plant a dream.

Join Dash Nation

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

You can plant a dream.

Join Dash Nation

Thank you qwizzie. I couldn't agree more. Dash Nation represents progress, optimism and decentralized tech. We're taking the narrative back from those who would seek to define us for two years.

To build the Internet of Money, you need people to be able to access it. Disconnecting from BTC is of paramount importance. What's Dash's short-term plan in this regard?

https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/ditching-btc-1695039752.html

#DashNation #IoM

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

I'm glad we now agree that the instamine was probably not accidental. Good decision! It was probably untenable to trying to scam new investors with the claim it was all a big accident and, "Whoops! I instamined again!".

For anyone following along

1. Evan had at least two years of experience with crypto before launching Dash. There was no "lack of experience" as you claim. (Your statement about what "caused mistakes to be made" was opinion, by the way. I'm glad we have agreed to exclude opinion from this thread.)

2. Evan stated months ahead of the launch that he was working on a "for-profit" coin launch.

3. Evan deliberately withheld the development and feature plans until after the end of the instqamine.

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

5. Evan later cut the mining rewards and coin supply, increasing the effective size of the instamine by a factor of four or more.

6. In total, the instamine of 2 million coins represents over approximately 30% of the current supply of Dash.

7. "Official Communication" from Dash blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

EDIT: corrected for new current supply

OK Smooth, you left me no choice. For bringing the same tired "half-truth, half-spin" that I've dealt with already in this thread for all to see, you deserve it.

Ladies and gentlemen, Allen "Smooth" Iverson:

http://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzI

Bring some new evidence? Found your "smoking gun"? If not, thanks for the thread bumps...

Concentrate on your own project instead of baselessly attacking others. You'll inspire people. As I said before, I'm trying to teach you...

[smooth]

Concentrate on your own project instead of baselessly attacking others.

Nice try but:

1. No one is attacking. I criticize the instamine because it was a dishonest scam, and I criticize Dash because it continues to scam investors by lying about the instamine, and its technology is described by recognized exports as very good either. But hey, you seem like a decent guy for the most part. Misguided with your spam threads, and obviously misled about Dash, but decent anyway.

2. The criticism of Dash is not baseless. Some of the basis is quoted below, but there is plenty more

"half-truth, half-spin"

Sorry, but as inconvenient as it might be for you or the ongoing Dash scam, all of my comments below are obviously factual, and fully backed up by sources, not half-truth, and not spin.

1. Evan had at least two years of experience with crypto before launching Dash. There was no "lack of experience" as you claim. (Your statement about what "caused mistakes to be made" was opinion, by the way. I'm glad we have agreed to exclude opinion from this thread.)

2. Evan stated months ahead of the launch that he was working on a "for-profit" coin launch.

3. Evan deliberately withheld the development and feature plans until after the end of the instqamine.

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

5. Evan later cut the mining rewards and coin supply, increasing the effective size of the instamine by a factor of four or more.

6. In total, the instamine of 2 million coins represents approximately 30% of the current supply of Dash.

7. "Official Communication" from Dash blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Concentrate on your own project instead of baselessly attacking others.

Nice try but:

1. No one is attacking. I criticize the instamine because it was a dishonest scam, and I criticize Dash because it continues to scam investors by lying about the instamine, and its technology is described by recognized exports as very good either. But hey, you seem like a decent guy for the most part. Misguided with your spam threads, and obviously misled about Dash, but decent anyway.

2. The criticism of Dash is not baseless. Some of the basis is quoted below, but there is plenty more

"half-truth, half-spin"

Sorry, but as inconvenient as it might be for you or the ongoing Dash scam, all of my comments below are obviously factual, and fully backed up by sources, not half-truth, and not spin.

1. Evan had at least two years of experience with crypto before launching Dash. There was no "lack of experience" as you claim. (Your statement about what "caused mistakes to be made" was opinion, by the way. I'm glad we have agreed to exclude opinion from this thread.)

2. Evan stated months ahead of the launch that he was working on a "for-profit" coin launch.

3. Evan deliberately withheld the development and feature plans until after the end of the instqamine.

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

5. Evan later cut the mining rewards and coin supply, increasing the effective size of the instamine by a factor of four or more.

6. In total, the instamine of 2 million coins represents over approximately 30% of the current supply of Dash.

7. "Official Communication" from Dash blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

EDIT: corrected for new current supply

I did you the favour of fixing your post. Same old, same old. Why can't you be more like Fluffypony? He's actually a nice guy once you get to know him. Learn from his example, if you don't want to learn from me...



I wish you and your project nothing but the best. Crypto competition FTW! But your style is not the way to do it.

Progress. Optimism. Decentralized tech. That's what Dash Nation represents. We could be friends if you would just change your attitude. There's still time.

[smooth]

I'm sorry but as smooth is a core dev who is leading the FUD charge while the rest of his dev cohort not coming out publicly to yank the leash in on their attack dog, then they are obviously quiet happy with the troll campaign.

There wouldn't be any reason for anyone legitimate in the cryptocurrency space to be unhappy about criticism of the Dash scam and its advertising spam threads trying to rope in new investors to scam.

That said, we are all individual volunteers who do what we want. For example, I personally would not have posed for that picture, because I'd recognize it could be abused as a sort of endorsement of Evan, which I doubt was intended. I'm speak only for myself (unless, on rare occasion, stated otherwise, but that hasn't happened here).

Random fact:

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

I'm sorry but as smooth is a core dev who is leading the FUD charge while the rest of his dev cohort not coming out publicly to yank the leash in on their attack dog, then they are obviously quiet happy with the troll campaign.

There wouldn't be any reason for anyone legitimate in the cryptocurrency space to be unhappy about criticism of the Dash scam and its advertising spam threads trying to rope in new investors to scam.

That said, we are all individual volunteers who do what we want. For example, I personally would not have posed for that picture, because I'd recognize it could be abused as a sort of endorsement of Evan, which I doubt was intended. I'm speak only for myself (unless, on rare occasion, stated otherwise, but that hasn't happened here).

Random fact:

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

"Scam." I love that you don't know when to quit. You help me prove my point with every post.

[smooth]

"PROBABLY" not accidental.

I'm glad we now agree that the instamine was probably not accidental. Good decision! It was probably untenable to trying to scam new investors with the claim it was all a big accident and, "Whoops! I instamined again!".

For anyone following along

1. Evan had at least two years of experience with crypto before launching Dash. There was no "lack of experience" as you claim. (Your statement about what "caused mistakes to be made" was opinion, by the way. I'm glad we have agreed to exclude opinion from this thread.)

2. Evan stated months weeks ahead of the launch that he was working on a "for-profit" coin launch.

3. Evan deliberately withheld the development and feature plans until after the end of the instqamine.

4. Evan misled people about the launch schedule, launching much earlier than promised. During the first hour, over 500000 coins were mined, and in 8 hours, over a million coins.

5. Evan later cut the mining rewards and coin supply, increasing the effective size of the instamine by a factor of four or more.

6. In total, the instamine of 2 million coins represents over approximately 30% of the current supply of Dash.

7. "Official Communication" from Dash blaming the instamine on inherited Litecoin code (which is factually false).

8. Dash ANN OP claiming the coin was "fairly and transparently launched".

EDIT: corrected for new current supply

In addition to the correction of the supply number, I must also correct another error. The statement about a "for-profit" coin launch was made not months before launch but about three weeks before launch.

My apologies for the error

[toknormal]

"Scam." I love that you don't know when to quit. You help me prove my point with every post.

There are a few deluded high horses in crypto who can't live with the fact that Dash overcame its launch issues and was accepted by the market as a legitimate cryptocurrency.

The "not knowing when to quit" stems from the sense of injustice done to their selective view of "legitimacy", even though as I described in another post, it's bogus.

All the same, they're having to swallow it and you might therefore have to swallow their gurning, maligning remarks and patronising put downs about "scamming new investors", even though anyone who invested in Dash over the last 2 years knows it's anything but.

Uneasy accord.

(Put it this way - I know which side of it I'd rather be on)

[smooth]

"Scam." I love that you don't know when to quit. You help me prove my point with every post.

There are a few deluded high horses in crypto who can't live with the fact that Dash overcame its launch issues and was accepted by the market as a legitimate cryptocurrency.

The market does not accept or reject as "legitimate". The market just does what it does, which is trade tokens. Plenty of obvious scams (even worse than Dash) have had high values in the market for a time. People will buy any junk as long as they think they can sell it for a higher price.

sense of injustice done to their selective view of "legitimacy"

I can't speak for others but it has nothing to do with "injustice" or "legitimacy" in my view, and I mostly don't care what someone calls "legitimate". It has to do with whether investors are being scammed, and in the case of Dash, they are, by the ongoing false, deceptive, misleading, and selective statements being made both the official Dash organization (e.g. the ANN OP and the "Official Statement", "The History of Dash"), and by community members.

Such as you, for example, right here characterizing early launch, massive instamine, withholding of information, deceptive and misleading statements, cuts to emissions and supply, etc. with a nice little euphemism:

launch issues

If you and the rest of the Dash community would be up front, making full, complete, and accurate disclosure of the history as I have done in my comments here and on my Dash instamine thread, you would not hear from me again on the issue. I'm not holding my breath however.

[Lukas_Jackson]

...making full, complete, and accurate disclosure of the history...

It's disclosed out there in the open and already priced in the market, but you and your friend can't see that.
You're not interested in any disclosure. You're just interested in killing Dash and you can't live with a thought that it doesn't give a fuck what you think.
This is market.