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April 12, 2016, 03:19:32 PM |
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The big question is why wait until now to give this information to the community? Assuming what you say is true (about which I can not see substantial evidence).
Okay, we do not kill the messenger, but why send that message? Whoever it was, honestly it's bad for his ethics and professionalism.
It´s a FUD?
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sotisoti
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April 12, 2016, 03:22:26 PM |
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Same here, would like to know why the last minute news.
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Bitrated user: sotisoti.
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Mike8
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April 12, 2016, 03:32:37 PM |
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It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.
We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.
How comes that it came into your attention exactly in the day of the ICO? I don't tell that waves may not be a little bit (or more) fishy... but this is quite a coincidence too... |
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April 12, 2016, 03:38:12 PM |
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It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.
We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.
So... it is open source... Do we care if you endorse the sale? It would be great if we can get a response from WAVES before the 20% day is up. |
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kame
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April 12, 2016, 03:46:20 PM |
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I found charleshoskinson tweeting same message few hrs before. seems on travel now.  |
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LitcoinCollector
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April 12, 2016, 03:49:35 PM |
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Opensource sure great, but sources should be mentioned imo (maybe it has been)...
Also information needs to be accurate on who is involved...
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April 12, 2016, 03:51:47 PM |
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Opensource sure great, but sources should be mentioned imo (maybe it has been)...
Also information needs to be accurate on who is involved...
WAVES website states:
Q: Who are the NXT developers involved in WAVES?
A: Devs involved: JL777, Kushti, Tosch. Project leader, Coinomat at NXTforum.
Q: What programming language will be used to develop the platform?
A: Full node client will be built is Scala, on Scorex platform which Kushti and his team have been developing. Lite, end-user, client will be in JS. Also there most probably will be a full-node C++ client too.
there you have it. |
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Zenyoguibit
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April 12, 2016, 03:52:37 PM |
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I found charleshoskinson tweeting same message few hrs before. seems on travel now. Real? how weird. Well let's see how this later. |
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kame
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April 12, 2016, 03:56:02 PM |
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I found charleshoskinson tweeting same message few hrs before. seems on travel now. Real? how weird. Well let's see how this later.  |
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BellaBitBit
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April 12, 2016, 03:57:46 PM |
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I found charleshoskinson tweeting same message few hrs before. seems on travel now. Real? how weird. Well let's see how this later. seems legit, waiting for more information. Maybe a statement from developers? |
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April 12, 2016, 04:58:15 PM |
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bad news always come out when a ICO is over ore after it's started. Nothing new with the timing
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bcmine
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April 12, 2016, 05:50:53 PM |
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bad news always come out when a ICO is over ore after it's started. Nothing new with the timing
the dark side of the project it is. |
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April 12, 2016, 06:22:39 PM |
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Opensource sure great, but sources should be mentioned imo (maybe it has been)...
Also information needs to be accurate on who is involved...
WAVES website states:
Q: Who are the NXT developers involved in WAVES?
A: Devs involved: JL777, Kushti, Tosch. Project leader, Coinomat at NXTforum.
Q: What programming language will be used to develop the platform?
A: Full node client will be built is Scala, on Scorex platform which Kushti and his team have been developing. Lite, end-user, client will be in JS. Also there most probably will be a full-node C++ client too.
there you have it. Thanks |
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April 12, 2016, 07:18:39 PM |
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Does it really matter? All ICO are permissioned ledger, distributed, but not decentralized, money grab scams. You're all arguing about who gets to be leader of the scam and if so and so guy from some place in Russia endorses the scam or not. no closed entropy, pre-mined, permissioned ledger system will ever have value. The only ones that have are ones forced upon you with coercion by governments. Unless you believe the UN is going to force Ripple upon the entire world, you better dump that bag of turds For any cryptocurrency to be adopted, there can't even be a hint of the coin being created solely to enrich the creator. Economics is a zero sum game and there is no Nash equilbrium to be had by random Joe off the street adopting something that puts you at an advantage and him at a disadvantage. It doesn't matter if you think you should get paid to work. Nobody would have adopted gold if gold had a central issuing authority with the market cornered at day one.
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April 12, 2016, 07:24:42 PM |
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W.r.t. to WAVES, Charles is ostensibly very wisely making sure he and his company are not associated with the ostensibly illegal selling of unregistered investment securities to USA investors: I applaud Charles' statements and actions in this thread and in the quoted video. Disclaimer: IANAL, so make sure you consult your own attorney. My statements are my personal opinions. |
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r0ach
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April 12, 2016, 07:40:26 PM |
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Of course they're illegal. If you look at the guidelines issued by US authorities, they talk about what constitutes a decentralized platform in the first place and all these permissioned ledger, closed entropy systems fail that test. What you're issuing is shares of a company for profit. The legal system doesn't allow you to start selling shares of some fly by night company from your basement.
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April 12, 2016, 07:55:06 PM |
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Does it really matter? All ICO are permissioned ledger, distributed, but not decentralized, money grab scams. You're all arguing about who gets to be leader of the scam and if so and so guy from some place in Russia endorses the scam or not.
I think the community should know that r0ach is just angry because I caught him on spreading bullshit. I offered him to put money where his mouth was and of course he didn't accept the bet. The quoted post and the other posts of the guy are worthless. |
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April 12, 2016, 07:59:00 PM |
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My statements are my personal opinions...
...which have little common with the reality as we saw. |
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r0ach
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April 12, 2016, 08:02:43 PM |
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Does it really matter? All ICO are permissioned ledger, distributed, but not decentralized, money grab scams. You're all arguing about who gets to be leader of the scam and if so and so guy from some place in Russia endorses the scam or not.
I think the community should know that r0ach is just angry because I caught him on spreading bullshit. I offered him to put money where his mouth was and of course he didn't accept the bet. The quoted post and the other posts of the guy are worthless. Haha, oh please. I think we all know what's going on. Young Dmitri in Astrakhan is desperate for money and is going to issue at least 100 IPOs until you give it to him. |
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April 12, 2016, 08:07:48 PM |
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Haha, oh please. I think we all know what's going on. Young Dmitri in Astrakhan is desperate for money and is going to issue at least 100 IPOs until you give it to him.
If that was said by someone else we would pay attention to these words. Taking into account that it's yours I would ignore the post. |
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