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Author Topic: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping  (Read 122527 times)
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September 25, 2017, 02:40:26 AM
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30.2GH at 750W, Innosilicon introduces the world best X11 miner A5 DashMaster
 
Innosilicon, the world’s leading supplier of advanced mining ASIC,  Grin proudly announces today its next generation X11 miner, A5 DashMaster, at 30.2GH performance in 750W low power mode and 38GH in overclocked mode. It is so advanced and so far ahead in the field that it possesses >3.2 times efficiency advantage over its closest competitor. The A5 DashMaster owns huge competitive advantage, significantly lower operating cost, higher ROI and longevity in all conditions.  Smiley
 
"Once again, Innosilicon A5 DashMaster ASIC raises the bar significantly and brings another crypto currency miner to the next level, building a consistent record of successfully delivering the previous most competitive A series of miners ", says the Innosilicon marketing Director Joey Jiang. "Smart customers choose the best miners and won’t risk money on obsolete stuff. A5 DashMaster is so well designed that we believe, even couple of years from now, you can still resell it as the best miner in the market"
 
Innosilicon X11 is fully proven and open for pre-order now! Delivery time starts from Sept 20th 2017 with superior 6 months’ warranty. Cheesy First order, first served!
 
Contact us please via email miner_sales@innosilicon.com.cn
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Ya, Feel free to contact them, but don't expect an answer. They only answer every third email, unless your buying a new rig. But if you need to order parts because the controller got hot, or some other reason, they're busy now making big money selling rigs, they can't be bothered with little things, like keeping your rig running after you buy it.
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I am getting a lot of questions via PM's from a lot of people here regarding this mess with the A4's.  I can tell you that I know what everyone else knows, which isn't much.  I know people are frustrated and angry.  I know, I am one of the frustrated and angry customers myself.  It has been a week now since Inno said they were going to set something up to take care of this situation with the miners.  But now I am hearing rumors that it isn't going to happen.  I don't have any confirmation yet from Inno.  

So I have a feeling we are going to have to work to resolve this as a community the best we can if we can get our hands on the jigs to do the flashing.  I just sent Inno and email suggesting that they can send me a jig and I will try to help coordinate getting this done.  I have no idea if they will take me up on the suggestion.

In the mean time I would like to see if we can get a show of hands here who has a jig or has one coming to them?  If you have a jig, or have one coming would you be willing to loan it to the community here so that we can try to come up with a way for members to get their units flashed?  I honestly don't think it is a good idea to try and ship jigs from member to member all over the country, but I am certainly open to input on the best way to try and coordinate this activity so that we get everyone flashed who needs it.

The next question I have is how many units are we talking about here in the US that need to be flashed?  I know this isn't a small number, but I don't know how many people have bought A4's directly with Inno that are in this boat with a B1 or B2 miner.  So I would also like to get an idea how many units we are talking about.

This could turn into a huge undertaking trying to coordinate miners coming in, miners being flashed, tested, and then shipped back out.  So there is a significant amount of work and effort to do this depending on how many units we are talking about.  

So lets sound off.  Let me hear if you have a jig or one is coming.  And I would like to get an idea how many A4's need flashing.  I would like to get a game plan together and start working the plan.  Thoughts?

I have 2 B2's that need to be flashed.
I have 3 units that need flashed. B1 pair and B2 single USA

Its a raspberry PI. Can't you just go to raspberry and get the connectors from them? Save yourself a lot of trouble, or are they locked out?

After I looked at mine, I noticed it has a MICRO SD card and it can be flashed by plugging into your computer. No Jig needed, well, pardon me, you will need some form of connection plug to convert it from USB to MICRO SD. So, I'm guessing their is different cards.

Is this the case?
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September 25, 2017, 03:21:03 AM
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Ya, Feel free to contact them, but don't expect an answer. They only answer every third email, unless your buying a new rig. But if you need to order parts because the controller got hot, or some other reason, they're busy now making big money selling rigs, they can't be bothered with little things, like keeping your rig running after you buy it.

Hm. Let them know I'd be happy to help, I'm not free (well, information is free, service is money) but fair.
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Ya, Feel free to contact them, but don't expect an answer. They only answer every third email, unless your buying a new rig. But if you need to order parts because the controller got hot, or some other reason, they're busy now making big money selling rigs, they can't be bothered with little things, like keeping your rig running after you buy it.

Hm. Let them know I'd be happy to help, I'm not free (well, information is free, service is money) but fair.

As the first mention already said, they only reply to every 3rd email. Give us the info so we can buy new controllers, even though the rig is still under warranty. Just reply in a very timely manner, like the rest of the world that knows what customer service is. Miners make the most money when you first buy them, so not letting us fix our own rigs, is seriously costly. Even when we are happy to pay, even thought he rig is under warranty, still no reply.
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September 25, 2017, 04:12:59 AM
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As the first mention already said, they only reply to every 3rd email. Give us the info so we can buy new controllers, even though the rig is still under warranty. Just reply in a very timely manner, like the rest of the world that knows what customer service is. Miners make the most money when you first buy them, so not letting us fix our own rigs, is seriously costly. Even when we are happy to pay, even thought he rig is under warranty, still no reply.
I get it, but this seems to be a common thread with mining companies. Even Ant is getting more grumbling these days, if they would just release schematics and some notes it would go a long way towards people being able to service the miners. But they don't, which is weird.

I don't own any inno stuff, are the controllers proprietary?
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Hi Grin Want to follow this project. But not very understand the main goal of the project
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Guys, help me to flash my A4.
The problem is that I download firmware, any version, using the program Win32DiskImager to create the image on the SD card. Get a control Board, and the miner does not load the system.
what file system must be created on the SD card? NTFS FAT32 exFAT?
Does it matter?
Even after I write the image to the card, when trying to load a map I find that the map is empty and no files.
Please tell me how to understand what's going on?
Now on my miner address 192.168.1.150
after flashing to change this address??
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October 11, 2017, 01:22:04 PM
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Hey,

Recently I bought Innosilicon A4 Dominator miners but I'm really unsatisfied with my Nicehash results. Miners are updated with suggested firmware but still I'm getting very low real hashrate. This guy here is getting stable 272MH/s but im not even close to this result... I don't know from what batch are my miners.

Miners are working at 825MH/s total power but nicehash medium result from 6 hours is only 696MH/s - graph from nicehash. Im using xnsub parameter. Here is my miner statistics page from one node - I have two of them.
Because of controller failure I have 3 tubes in one controller but with two tubes in one controller results are that same weak... My controllers are TF card - Orange Pi. Ping to nicehash is 80ms.
Can you show me your results or have some suggestions to me?

I'm really disappointed, was wondering to invest more for L3+ but calculations resulted in favor of A4 products but not in this case. L3+ users are getting stable 488MH/s out of box when miner speed is 504MH/s!

Here are some cgminer summary:
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.876941] BA20 | (5s):68.92M | A:1998848 R:65536 HW:1 WU:48482.6/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877127] BA21 | (5s):68.92M | A:2490368 R:229376 HW:78 WU:63873.8/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877305] BA22 | (5s):68.92M | A:2228221 R:65536 HW:41 WU:53869.4/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877495] BA23 | (5s):68.86M | A:1802239 R:32768 HW:71 WU:43095.6/m

[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848768] BA21 | (5s):70.30M | A:12025855 R:1048576 HW:136 WU:58184.4/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848958] BA22 | (5s):70.30M | A:12877824 R:786432 HW:77 WU:60809.3/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849159] BA23 | (5s):70.30M | A:10190848 R:393216 HW:1019 WU:47101.7/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849356] BA24 | (5s):70.30M | A:11829247 R:589824 HW:705 WU:55267.9/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849541] BA25 | (5s):70.30M | A:12353536 R:294912 HW:743 WU:56872.0/m

Really thanks for any help.
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October 11, 2017, 02:15:06 PM
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Hey,

Recently I bought Innosilicon A4 Dominator miners but I'm really unsatisfied with my Nicehash results. Miners are updated with suggested firmware but still I'm getting very low real hashrate. This guy here is getting stable 272MH/s but im not even close to this result... I don't know from what batch are my miners.

Miners are working at 825MH/s total power but nicehash medium result from 6 hours is only 696MH/s - graph from nicehash. Im using xnsub parameter. Here is my miner statistics page from one node - I have two of them.
Because of controller failure I have 3 tubes in one controller but with two tubes in one controller results are that same weak... My controllers are TF card - Orange Pi. Ping to nicehash is 80ms.
Can you show me your results or have some suggestions to me?

I'm really disappointed, was wondering to invest more for L3+ but calculations resulted in favor of A4 products but not in this case. L3+ users are getting stable 488MH/s out of box when miner speed is 504MH/s!

Here are some cgminer summary:
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.876941] BA20 | (5s):68.92M | A:1998848 R:65536 HW:1 WU:48482.6/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877127] BA21 | (5s):68.92M | A:2490368 R:229376 HW:78 WU:63873.8/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877305] BA22 | (5s):68.92M | A:2228221 R:65536 HW:41 WU:53869.4/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877495] BA23 | (5s):68.86M | A:1802239 R:32768 HW:71 WU:43095.6/m

[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848768] BA21 | (5s):70.30M | A:12025855 R:1048576 HW:136 WU:58184.4/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848958] BA22 | (5s):70.30M | A:12877824 R:786432 HW:77 WU:60809.3/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849159] BA23 | (5s):70.30M | A:10190848 R:393216 HW:1019 WU:47101.7/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849356] BA24 | (5s):70.30M | A:11829247 R:589824 HW:705 WU:55267.9/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849541] BA25 | (5s):70.30M | A:12353536 R:294912 HW:743 WU:56872.0/m

Really thanks for any help.

Are you on V2.0.3beta?

Ensure that you are on this firmware or better.

For Nicehash, the #xnsub wont work with A4s -- the L3+ does not support #xnsub too.

I get 280MHs++ consistently by just putting "d=131072" in password field.

My A4s are 815mV.

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October 11, 2017, 02:37:16 PM
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Maybe should I use older firmware? I run now at V1.1.0 because I have TF version - Orange Pi.
This version was released with V2.1.0 for SD so its probably the same version of cgminer for another hardware. I got message that XNSUB is working. Maybe I should also remove #xnsub parameter from url?

Restarted miners: both with d=131072, one with #xnsub, second without. I'll let it run for few hours and write results here.
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October 13, 2017, 05:03:27 PM
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Hey,

Recently I bought Innosilicon A4 Dominator miners but I'm really unsatisfied with my Nicehash results. Miners are updated with suggested firmware but still I'm getting very low real hashrate. This guy here is getting stable 272MH/s but im not even close to this result... I don't know from what batch are my miners.

Miners are working at 825MH/s total power but nicehash medium result from 6 hours is only 696MH/s - graph from nicehash. Im using xnsub parameter. Here is my miner statistics page from one node - I have two of them.
Because of controller failure I have 3 tubes in one controller but with two tubes in one controller results are that same weak... My controllers are TF card - Orange Pi. Ping to nicehash is 80ms.
Can you show me your results or have some suggestions to me?

I'm really disappointed, was wondering to invest more for L3+ but calculations resulted in favor of A4 products but not in this case. L3+ users are getting stable 488MH/s out of box when miner speed is 504MH/s!

Here are some cgminer summary:
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.876941] BA20 | (5s):68.92M | A:1998848 R:65536 HW:1 WU:48482.6/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877127] BA21 | (5s):68.92M | A:2490368 R:229376 HW:78 WU:63873.8/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877305] BA22 | (5s):68.92M | A:2228221 R:65536 HW:41 WU:53869.4/m
[2017-10-10 23:22:16.877495] BA23 | (5s):68.86M | A:1802239 R:32768 HW:71 WU:43095.6/m

[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848768] BA21 | (5s):70.30M | A:12025855 R:1048576 HW:136 WU:58184.4/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.848958] BA22 | (5s):70.30M | A:12877824 R:786432 HW:77 WU:60809.3/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849159] BA23 | (5s):70.30M | A:10190848 R:393216 HW:1019 WU:47101.7/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849356] BA24 | (5s):70.30M | A:11829247 R:589824 HW:705 WU:55267.9/m
[2017-10-11 00:27:11.849541] BA25 | (5s):70.30M | A:12353536 R:294912 HW:743 WU:56872.0/m

Really thanks for any help.

Are you on V2.0.3beta?

Ensure that you are on this firmware or better.

For Nicehash, the #xnsub wont work with A4s -- the L3+ does not support #xnsub too.

I get 280MHs++ consistently by just putting "d=131072" in password field.

My A4s are 815mV.

Still the same weak result... I disconnected one tube due to replacement.

WORKER81: 2 tubes 280MH/s (innosilicon value)
WORKER82: 3 tubes 420MH/s (innosilicon value)
Expected real nicehash value 272MH/s + 408MH/s = 680MH/s (as showed by nicehash on firmware update news)
Real reached nicehash value 556MH/s
GRAPH

Till today I tested this values:
d=131072, d=65536, x as password
810mV/815mV/820mV
clock 1000MHz, 1200MHz, 1244MHz
--queue 0
--scan-time 1
--expiry 1
Stratum proxy (results very weak).

Wanted to test Raspberry cgminer but it's not working on Orange PI. Don't know where to download older TF card versions to test older cgminers (<1.1.0).

Sadly that nicehash is not providing graphs for individual workers.

Anyone has different ideas?
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October 13, 2017, 06:57:24 PM
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Anyone interested in buying the original A4 miner? I have 3 from last November looking to sell.
Make offers.
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October 19, 2017, 11:16:32 AM
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Orange PI - TF version 1.1.1 (G5-20-V1.1.1TF) SSH password is:
login: root
password: innosilicon

Got all my workers, but still working bad. Changed ISP with lower pings.
From 6 tubes and 3 controllers im getting average of 737Mh/s on nicehash. That is 245 per unit.
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October 19, 2017, 11:23:30 AM
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Anyone interested in buying the original A4 miner? I have 3 from last November looking to sell.
Make offers.

What kind of hashpower did you get from them? Where are you shipping them from and what kind of price do you have in mind?

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Anyone interested in buying the original A4 miner? I have 3 from last November looking to sell.
Make offers.

What kind of hashpower did you get from them? Where are you shipping them from and what kind of price do you have in mind?
Hashrate depends on where you mine. On litecoinpool I get the full 280, on nicehash I get more like 240-250.
They are in Arizona, nice and dry/clean. No rust or anything like that.
Price, probably around 0.2 BTC.
I also have seasonic PSU with PCIe cables if needed for around 0.02 BTC.
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November 08, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
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Anyone else tinker with overclocking these?

I have 2 so far and 2 more on the way tomorrow, all used. The 2 I already have are newer ones (april & june 2017) with Orange Pi controllers, running firmware v1.1.1.  Using the login creds previously mentioned in this thread (root/innosilicon), I am launching the cgminer manually with a clock value of 1600 instead of 1248.  This results in the hashing rate being around 364 instead of 276.  I kept the voltage at the default value of 820.  So far stable, temps are virtually unchanged.  Can't get any higher than 1600 tho, I think that might be because the PLL or something runs at 1600 as well (saw something about this in the log).  I figure if my temps are normal and voltage was not bumped any higher, how bad could it be. Result is about a 32% overclock.  I'm assuming this is only possible because I have newer batches, so don't take this as a good reference point if you have older ones.  Just wondering if anyone else was tinkering with overclocking these to squeeze every last ounce out of them, and if so what you did to get above 1600.

Another thing I'd like to try is get ahold of the firmware from an A4+ once they're around - wondering if the newer build of cgminer in there might have some improvements that could be copied over to this build.

Go to the web page, stop mining if you have it already mining.  Putty into the miner, change directory to /var/www, and here is the command I use (changed the worker name in case anyone wants to donate some mining time to me in return for this info, so if not change that part to your own pool info)

sudo ./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://scrypt.usa.nicehash.com:3333/#xnsub -u 3Qk7dwXXn1Qr2jfK2aetLZod43v5sJy4ow.Donate -p x --A1Pll1 1600 --A1Pll2 1600 --A1Pll3 1600 --A1Pll4 1600 --A1Pll5 1600 --A1Pll6 1600 --A1Vol 820  --diff 8 --api-listen --api-network --cs 8 --stmcu 0 --hwreset > cgminer.log  &

https://i.imgur.com/Mh98xJ5.jpg
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Anyone else tinker with overclocking these?

I have 2 so far and 2 more on the way tomorrow, all used. The 2 I already have are newer ones (april & june 2017) with Orange Pi controllers, running firmware v1.1.1.  Using the login creds previously mentioned in this thread (root/innosilicon), I am launching the cgminer manually with a clock value of 1600 instead of 1248.  This results in the hashing rate being around 364 instead of 276.  I kept the voltage at the default value of 820.  So far stable, temps are virtually unchanged.  Can't get any higher than 1600 tho, I think that might be because the PLL or something runs at 1600 as well (saw something about this in the log).  I figure if my temps are normal and voltage was not bumped any higher, how bad could it be. Result is about a 32% overclock.  I'm assuming this is only possible because I have newer batches, so don't take this as a good reference point if you have older ones.  Just wondering if anyone else was tinkering with overclocking these to squeeze every last ounce out of them, and if so what you did to get above 1600.

Another thing I'd like to try is get ahold of the firmware from an A4+ once they're around - wondering if the newer build of cgminer in there might have some improvements that could be copied over to this build.

Go to the web page, stop mining if you have it already mining.  Putty into the miner, change directory to /var/www, and here is the command I use (changed the worker name in case anyone wants to donate some mining time to me in return for this info, so if not change that part to your own pool info)

sudo ./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://scrypt.usa.nicehash.com:3333/#xnsub -u 3Qk7dwXXn1Qr2jfK2aetLZod43v5sJy4ow.Donate -p x --A1Pll1 1600 --A1Pll2 1600 --A1Pll3 1600 --A1Pll4 1600 --A1Pll5 1600 --A1Pll6 1600 --A1Vol 820  --diff 8 --api-listen --api-network --cs 8 --stmcu 0 --hwreset > cgminer.log  &



Nice overclock. Powerdraw per Mhash should be same as with stock cloks. As you didn't up voltage.
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November 08, 2017, 10:59:53 PM
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Anyone else tinker with overclocking these?

I have 2 so far and 2 more on the way tomorrow, all used. The 2 I already have are newer ones (april & june 2017) with Orange Pi controllers, running firmware v1.1.1.  Using the login creds previously mentioned in this thread (root/innosilicon), I am launching the cgminer manually with a clock value of 1600 instead of 1248.  This results in the hashing rate being around 364 instead of 276.  I kept the voltage at the default value of 820.  So far stable, temps are virtually unchanged.  Can't get any higher than 1600 tho, I think that might be because the PLL or something runs at 1600 as well (saw something about this in the log).  I figure if my temps are normal and voltage was not bumped any higher, how bad could it be. Result is about a 32% overclock.  I'm assuming this is only possible because I have newer batches, so don't take this as a good reference point if you have older ones.  Just wondering if anyone else was tinkering with overclocking these to squeeze every last ounce out of them, and if so what you did to get above 1600.

Another thing I'd like to try is get ahold of the firmware from an A4+ once they're around - wondering if the newer build of cgminer in there might have some improvements that could be copied over to this build.

Go to the web page, stop mining if you have it already mining.  Putty into the miner, change directory to /var/www, and here is the command I use (changed the worker name in case anyone wants to donate some mining time to me in return for this info, so if not change that part to your own pool info)

sudo ./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://scrypt.usa.nicehash.com:3333/#xnsub -u 3Qk7dwXXn1Qr2jfK2aetLZod43v5sJy4ow.Donate -p x --A1Pll1 1600 --A1Pll2 1600 --A1Pll3 1600 --A1Pll4 1600 --A1Pll5 1600 --A1Pll6 1600 --A1Vol 820  --diff 8 --api-listen --api-network --cs 8 --stmcu 0 --hwreset > cgminer.log  &

https://i.imgur.com/Mh98xJ5.jpg

Nice overclock. Powerdraw per Mhash should be same as with stock cloks. As you didn't up voltage.

So, what is your real hashrate at nicehash? Can you show me your graph?
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November 09, 2017, 01:44:05 AM
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I have a love / hate relationship with NiceHash.  I appreciate the simplicity of it, and I personally prefer my mining proceeds to be in bitcoin rather than any altcoin at the moment.  But, I can't help but feel like there is some sort of issue with these things and NiceHash and not getting our full hashrate out of them.  I had tried ProHashing - love their interface and graphs, but felt like the income was slightly less.  I have just now moved one of them over to ZPool.CA to check it out.  My average hashrate at NiceHash without overclocking was around 490-ish for 2 A4s.  After overclocking today for a few hours, the average on the graph for that period of time is about 515.  So an increase of 166 hash between the two of them resulted in an increase of only about 25 at the pool average.  I will admit I'm not being very scientific about this - if I was more patient I would split them between two pools and compare across several days. I also have 2 gaming PCs (single GPU) pointed at NiceHash so I can't even look at my daily earnings as a measure since those are pulling in a couple bucks themselves and I don't see an easy way to differentiate earnings in the NiceHash payment transactions.   I may end up doing that comparison but I'm still learning and tinkering at this point so I'm probably not the best metric for this.

I also wonder if the Orange Pi could somehow be causing diminishing returns somehow - maybe that's why they're designed to support 3 tubes but they only came with 2?  So another test could be running overclocked single tubes on controllers by themselves to see if that is an issue.

Here's the graph with the time block highlighted where the 2 A4s were there overclocked.  I have only one there now, moved the other to zpool as I mentioned.  The one at Zpool has been there now for 4 hours and 10 minutes and the unpaid balance is already 0.00045771 BTC - if that pace holds up then zpool might end up being waaay more profitable.

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November 18, 2017, 08:10:47 AM
 #1600

I have a batch 2 A4 that needs the boards flashed. I've got a ST-link programmer and have identified the pins to program the microcontroller on the boards, but I don't have the newer firmware image to flash. Actual microcontroller image, not the SD card image that people are calling firmware. Does anyone have any solutions? Be it the mythical jig or something I could flash, or anything else, any input would be appreciated. I'm currently running 1.0.3 SD card image software.
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