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April 17, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
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Bumping this thread.

Is there any indirect clues about death of Satoshi or that he still is well and alive? Or this is just a wild speculation.

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April 17, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
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Bumping this thread.

Is there any indirect clues about death of Satoshi or that he still is well and alive? Or this is just a wild speculation.

This entire thread is wild speculation.

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April 18, 2013, 12:12:40 AM
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50 million dollars is a decent chunk of change for almost any software developer or economist.  It's the kind of stash that, even if you are in Bitcoin for the long haul, the temptation to cash out just 2% of it and buy a yacht or an island or something is just too great.  Not doing so means that you are either extremely wealthy already, or some kind of supervillain who intends to take over the world once Bitcoin is in more widespread use.  I don't think either description fits.  I'm thinking that, by now, there are only two options as to why this hasn't happened:

1) Satoshi's coins are lost

2) Satoshi's coins are in the hands of some kind of corporate entity

Either of these scenarios has implications for the future of Bitcoin.

3) He doesn't care about personal wealth.
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April 18, 2013, 12:14:09 AM
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wild speculation.
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April 18, 2013, 01:39:38 AM
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I will sell my guess for BTC11,000,000.
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April 18, 2013, 02:20:08 AM
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Insanely wild speculation.

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April 18, 2013, 02:34:45 AM
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3) He doesn't care about personal wealth.

See, this doesn't really hold water for me.  Even if he doesn't care about personal wealth, he can give them away.  He could purchase some goods with Bitcoins and have them sent to a local charity.

If he doesn't care about his Bitcoins, but still has control over them, then distributing them, one way or another, during either of the last two run-ups would have had a hugely beneficial effect on the Bitcoin economy.

I don't want to turn this into "Satoshi should spend his Bitcoins."  Perhaps he shouldn't.  I'm just saying there are only a few scenarios that really make sense, and they all have consequences.

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April 18, 2013, 05:14:45 AM
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Maybe he doesn't spend them because his ex-wife from Hell would steal his money through increased child support payments.
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April 18, 2013, 05:34:08 AM
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3) He doesn't care about personal wealth.

See, this doesn't really hold water for me.  Even if he doesn't care about personal wealth, he can give them away.  He could purchase some goods with Bitcoins and have them sent to a local charity.

If he doesn't care about his Bitcoins, but still has control over them, then distributing them, one way or another, during either of the last two run-ups would have had a hugely beneficial effect on the Bitcoin economy.

I don't want to turn this into "Satoshi should spend his Bitcoins."  Perhaps he shouldn't.  I'm just saying there are only a few scenarios that really make sense, and they all have consequences.

In order for Bitcoin software to work, it must be connected to another node. So Satoshi must have had other machines in addition to the backbone miner. These would easily have generated 10,000s of coins during 2009-2010, which Satoshi could have, and probably has, partially spent anonymously.

What if Satoshi has an active wallet of BTC50,000 now? I would think everyone is happy!

I would give 10% chance that any of the mystery miner coins will ever be spent. It just doesn't seem that way. I like it.

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April 18, 2013, 08:57:13 AM
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http://www.findsatoshi.com/

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April 18, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
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i R satoshi!
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April 18, 2013, 10:08:02 AM
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The actual Satoshi has not yet even been born. And the time machine inventor is just a glimmer in his mother's eye.

This theory makes the most sense to me... he came back from the future, implemented bitcoin (he didn't invent it, he's just the messenger and bitcoin was actually invented in 2140 by the Satoshi rebellion group {aka children of WW3 which kicks off with the current political climate greece and north korea etc.} and foresaw their demise before bitcoin had time to manifest in their time) By doing this they will secure the future, stop WW3 from ever taking place at least in our timeline and that's why bitcoin generation expires in 2140, mD-Day (max Difficulty day).

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April 18, 2013, 10:10:49 AM
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We really need such a website.

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April 18, 2013, 08:05:09 PM
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I have a thread where I am compiling theories...  

http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/talk-bitcoin/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-thread-of-theories!/

ahh, bitcointalk incorrectly sees an ! as a stop in a URL, to click on through, i've bit.ly'd it -> http://bit.ly/14zF9bR

Surely enough theories are posted and all the clues in one place, a conclusion might be drawn from the findings..
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April 18, 2013, 09:35:09 PM
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satoshi has died
satoshi has risen
satoshi will come again
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April 19, 2013, 01:00:53 AM
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Everybody on this forum is Satoshi.

Time for our pills.
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May 17, 2013, 12:13:24 AM
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Also, he might be dead, in which case it is sad that no one will ever know unless family steps forward.

You don't think Gavin knows who / what Satoshi is?
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May 17, 2013, 12:16:15 AM
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I doubt Satoshi is dead... But its a possibility.
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May 17, 2013, 12:22:03 AM
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If he has 50,000 in 1 wallet, he probably has another some thousands in another. You don't need $50,000,000 to live rich.
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May 17, 2013, 12:29:04 AM
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While we all today live on the last permanent timeline, I would like to say that the first battles in the time-space continuum happened over bitcoin, but of this I can not be certain. The only thing we know for sure is that in the end...the humans won...
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