Sarahiko (OP)
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July 03, 2016, 01:54:57 AM |
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hi
anyone ?
15m ago
Hello, how can we help you? Please state your question or problem as completely and with as many details as necessary such as trade id or payment method required amount wanted etc..
14m ago
well
the situation i was in
the moderator came in, spoke for 2 sentences, and went to get on busying
i need a solution, my paypal is stuck, the btc guy logged off, with my paypal and his coins he is not releasing
13m ago
What is the trade id?
13m ago
sec
let me check
p5be6D4Bbm7
the buyer is asking me to file for non-authorize transaction with paypal to get my refund?
thats absurd right?
firstly, paypal will ban me for lying
and secondly, i might not even get it back because there wasnt un-authorizer transaction
11m ago
You need to do the chargeback because the bitcoins will not be released to you.
11m ago
i cant
i cant charge back
i showed u the screenshot
if paxful u r asking me to file unauthorize transaction
u better be sure this is what u asking me to do
becos if my paypal gets banned
i am looking for u guys'
10m ago
Yes, you can do if you really own the PP account.
10m ago
i do
10m ago
So do it because unfortunately the bitcoins will not be released for you.
10m ago
let me remind u
i called paypal 10mins ago
they said if i file for unauthorize transaction
i will not get back becos there wasnt a unaunthorize transaction
so u helping scammers now paxful ?
becos this is a genuine case here now isnt it obvious the buyer knows i cant do anything becos only thing paypal allows me to do
is CONTACT SELLER
for seller to refund
and seller is refusing to refund
yet paxful u guys helping him to keep his bitcoins
8m ago
Do the chargeback please we are talking about PP, the chargeback machine.
8m ago
I CANT CAHRGE BACK
ARE U BBLIND OR WHAT
can u see the options ?
can u ?
7m ago
I'm blind. And you will do the chargeback.
7m ago
there is NO charge back options
give me a number
i can talk ot someone
before i blow this matter big
7m ago
Contact their support.
7m ago
whose?
now ure the one fucked up
u asking me to contact WHO ?
6m ago
You can talk with PP support.
6m ago
i SPOKE to them
6m ago
5m ago
was there any unauth transaction?
DUDE
u asking me to LIE to paypal ?
5m ago
I'm asking you to do the chargeback.
5m ago
no
u r asking me to LIE to psaypal
becos there isnt any unaunthorize transaction
i did the transaction
and based on paxful's ESCROW system
4m ago
In 3 hours I will cancel the trade.
4m ago
u do that
u can cancel it now
im logging everything
good luck
4m ago
ok
4m ago
whats ur name btw ?
macros?
hey
3m ago
Jeremias.
2m ago
so much for ur escrow
really
not marcos?
2m ago
No, my name is Jeremias and I am a bot.
Above is my conversation with a paxful.com staff, when i got scammed out by someone in this forum, i have sent payment as donations via a site, and now paxful.com can really just ask the buyer to refund, don't but asked me to file for non-auth transactions? how ridiculous is that? someone kindly advice where else can i bring this matter to. scumbags like paxful.com needs to be taught a lesson.
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erikalui
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July 03, 2016, 08:30:44 AM |
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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting. You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback.
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Sarahiko (OP)
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July 03, 2016, 08:34:59 AM |
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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b] [b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting. You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback. thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.
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July 03, 2016, 08:42:17 AM |
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thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down
back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.
I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS. Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later.
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July 04, 2016, 02:56:07 AM |
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thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down
back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.
I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS. Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later. The problem is that it was donation, not selling of product. So only unauthorized transaction can be chargeback. Scammers know that, and one time i was scammed like this also. Never donations, only normal selling transaction!
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July 04, 2016, 03:09:10 AM |
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal. ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal. Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND". SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR! waiting
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Sarahiko (OP)
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July 04, 2016, 04:00:47 AM |
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal. ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal. Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND". SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR! waiting first things first. what did i lie about? and ethey, stop using new alts. anyway im sick of all of u losers. go ahead and spoil the community. anyway 200 is nothing to me, but its probably a sack worth of grains for u. so yea keep it. i tip the bartender more on good days. this thread is about paxful not doing what is right. not a thread for me to prove i am not lying. well, the fact now is i have sent the paypal, and i lost my paypal, yet paxful awarded the coins to the buyer. may i ask why? on the basis i MAY have a chance of charging back? then they jolly well award every single transaction to buyers from now. because if not, i spoke to my lawyers, i can sue them for dependency, and dont worry im not going aginst paxful, im going against the owners personally. check with ur lawyers if i am right what i am saying now. oh yea i remember their names now. ray and arthur. and being responsible due to the fact, they are acting operators/owners of paxful.com.
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July 04, 2016, 06:31:24 AM |
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There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):
Registrant Contact Information: Name: ARTUR SCHABACK Organization PAXFUL Address 54 EAST 40TH ST City NEW YORK State / Province NY Postal Code 10017 Country US Phone +267.6076869 Email paxful [-at-] gmail.com
That phone number points to Philidelphia
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Sarahiko (OP)
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July 04, 2016, 06:36:12 AM |
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There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):
Registrant Contact Information: Name: ARTUR SCHABACK Organization PAXFUL Address 54 EAST 40TH ST City NEW YORK State / Province NY Postal Code 10017 Country US Phone +267.6076869 Email paxful [-at-] gmail.com
That phone number points to Philidelphia
none of them are in america. and i intend to try to do a fight back once. have some money to spend, it just has to break down to who can do better seo, them trying to put themselves on good side, or me trying to tell the world the truth.
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July 04, 2016, 03:24:01 PM |
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal. ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal. Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND". SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR! waiting Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?
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Sarahiko (OP)
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July 04, 2016, 03:28:42 PM |
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal. ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal. Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND". SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR! waiting Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback? don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.
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July 05, 2016, 02:15:48 AM |
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don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.
Sarahiko has a scam accusation against them here --> Hero Member Sarahiko trying to Scam via Paypal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538734.0 Please look into this before considering a trade.
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Sarahiko (OP)
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July 05, 2016, 04:27:36 AM |
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actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins?
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July 05, 2016, 04:37:01 AM |
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actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins? i did not take your money. You have tried to steal me. This is an Scam attempt.
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July 08, 2016, 10:33:51 AM |
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal. ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal. Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND". SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR! waiting Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback? If the funds were backed with a credit card, you can chargeback through that card. So, no, it is not impossible.
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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September 11, 2016, 07:05:33 AM |
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I agree with OP 100%. This Paxful site is a joke, and makes all Bitcoin look like a scam. We review sites independently to help the community and put our experiences online. Paxfulreview.com is the website for our review of Paxful. Just want to share that with the community. Pay the love forward.
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