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July 03, 2016, 01:54:57 AM
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hi

anyone ?

15m ago

Hello, how can we help you? Please state your question or problem as completely and with as many details as necessary such as trade id or payment method required amount wanted etc..

14m ago

well

the situation i was in

the moderator came in, spoke for 2 sentences, and went to get on busying

i need a solution, my paypal is stuck, the btc guy logged off, with my paypal and his coins he is not releasing

13m ago

What is the trade id?

13m ago

sec

let me check

p5be6D4Bbm7

the buyer is asking me to file for non-authorize transaction with paypal to get my refund?

thats absurd right?

firstly, paypal will ban me for lying

and secondly, i might not even get it back because there wasnt un-authorizer transaction

11m ago

You need to do the chargeback because the bitcoins will not be released to you.

11m ago

i cant

i cant charge back

i showed u the screenshot

if paxful u r asking me to file unauthorize transaction

u better be sure this is what u asking me to do

becos if my paypal gets banned

i am looking for u guys'

10m ago

Yes, you can do if you really own the PP account.

10m ago

i do

10m ago

So do it because unfortunately the bitcoins will not be released for you.

10m ago

let me remind u

i called paypal 10mins ago

they said if i file for unauthorize transaction

i will not get back becos there wasnt a unaunthorize transaction

so u helping scammers now paxful ?

becos this is a genuine case here now isnt it obvious the buyer knows i cant do anything becos only thing paypal allows me to do

is CONTACT SELLER

for seller to refund

and seller is refusing to refund

yet paxful u guys helping him to keep his bitcoins

8m ago

Do the chargeback please we are talking about PP, the chargeback machine.

8m ago

I CANT CAHRGE BACK

ARE U BBLIND OR WHAT

can u see the options ?

can u ?

7m ago

I'm blind. And you will do the chargeback.

7m ago

there is NO charge back options

give me a number

i can talk ot someone

before i blow this matter big

7m ago

Contact their support.

7m ago

whose?

now ure the one fucked up

u asking me to contact WHO ?

6m ago

You can talk with PP support.

6m ago

i SPOKE to them

6m ago

5m ago

was there any unauth transaction?

DUDE

u asking me to LIE to paypal ?

5m ago

I'm asking you to do the chargeback.

5m ago

no

u r asking me to LIE to psaypal

becos there isnt any unaunthorize transaction

i did the transaction

and based on paxful's ESCROW system

4m ago

In 3 hours I will cancel the trade.

4m ago

u do that

u can cancel it now

im logging everything

good luck

4m ago

ok

4m ago

whats ur name btw ?

macros?

hey

3m ago

Jeremias.

2m ago

so much for ur escrow

really

not marcos?

2m ago

No, my name is Jeremias and I am a bot.



Above is my conversation with a paxful.com staff, when i got scammed out by someone in this forum, i have sent payment as donations via a site, and now paxful.com can really just ask the buyer to refund, don't but asked me to file for non-auth transactions? how ridiculous is that? someone kindly advice where else can i bring this matter to. scumbags like paxful.com needs to be taught a lesson.
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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]


You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting.

You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback.
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July 03, 2016, 08:34:59 AM
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[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]


You need to submit the scam accusation report in this format. Also, provide the chat messages as a screenshot instead of copy pasting.

You can chargeback via PayPal and it seems this user scammed you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798843. Payful looks shady if they keep saying BTC won't be released to you and recommend you to do a chargeback.

thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.
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July 03, 2016, 08:42:17 AM
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thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.


I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS.

Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later.
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July 03, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
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You can contact this user and try to present him your situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520886
As far as I know he is a Paxful support staff. They also have their own forum here: https://talk.paxful.com

Here is another discussion about Paxful if you find anything helpful from there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1337755.0


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July 04, 2016, 02:56:07 AM
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thanks for ur advice erika, but i made that payment in donations. u can't charge back a donation. the only option i have in paypal is to contact seller. or report as unauthorized access. so paxful the smart scumbags, they adviced me to go do that. which i have already forwarded the entire log to paypal. obviously paypal can't do anything to them. but i am sure backpage can. they claimed to be official exchanger for backpage, using hacked techniques, anyway to cut it short i informed backpage. i really love to see those scumbags get shut down

back to topic, if i charge back based on unauthorized access, i wont win it, because i really did login to my paypal. i am not going to lie to paypal about things that did not happen and get my account banned cos of 200 bucks.


I'm not so sure about chargebacks with PayPal as I haven't used it to send money. But I read that any method of payment can be chargedback if you contact support and say that you haven't receive the product after sending the money. I read that in their TOS.

Also, you need to submit a proper scam report in this thread if the scammer is from this forum so that Default Trust members leave him ratings and he isn't able to scam anyone later.


The problem is that it was donation, not selling of product. So only unauthorized transaction can be chargeback. Scammers know that, and one time i was scammed like this also. Never donations, only normal selling transaction!

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July 04, 2016, 03:09:10 AM
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


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July 04, 2016, 04:00:47 AM
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


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first things first. what did i lie about? and ethey, stop using new alts. anyway im sick of all of u losers. go ahead and spoil the community. anyway 200 is nothing to me, but its probably a sack worth of grains for u. so yea keep it. i tip the bartender more on good days. this thread is about paxful not doing what is right. not a thread for me to prove i am not lying. well, the fact now is i have sent the paypal, and i lost my paypal, yet paxful awarded the coins to the buyer. may i ask why? on the basis i MAY have a chance of charging back? then they jolly well award every single transaction to buyers from now. because if not, i spoke to my lawyers, i can sue them for dependency, and dont worry im not going aginst paxful, im going against the owners personally. check with ur lawyers if i am right what i am saying now. oh yea i remember their names now. ray and arthur. and being responsible due to the fact, they are acting operators/owners of paxful.com.
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July 04, 2016, 06:31:24 AM
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There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):

Registrant Contact Information:
Name: ARTUR SCHABACK
Organization
PAXFUL
Address
54 EAST 40TH ST
City
NEW YORK
State / Province
NY
Postal Code
10017
Country
US
Phone
+267.6076869
Email
paxful [-at-] gmail.com

That phone number points to Philidelphia
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July 04, 2016, 06:36:12 AM
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There have been several other similar threads about Paxful pulling scams in the past. It looks like they steal money selectively, on people they think are "suspicious" and in situations like this there is nothing you can do to fight back. I don't know how accurate this information is, but it's stored on their domain lookup (not verified in any way):

Registrant Contact Information:
Name: ARTUR SCHABACK
Organization
PAXFUL
Address
54 EAST 40TH ST
City
NEW YORK
State / Province
NY
Postal Code
10017
Country
US
Phone
+267.6076869
Email
paxful [-at-] gmail.com

That phone number points to Philidelphia

none of them are in america. and i intend to try to do a fight back once. have some money to spend, it just has to break down to who can do better seo, them trying to put themselves on good side, or me trying to tell the world the truth.
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July 04, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


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Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?

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July 04, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


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Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?

don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.
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Check this Scam accusion against Sarahiko.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538734.msg15470621#msg15470621

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July 05, 2016, 02:15:48 AM
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don't listen to a scammer. any method on paypal is subjected to chargeback, because you can file for non-authorize transaction. like a bank. however, if you file for that, paypal will first investigate if that really did happen. if found out that you lied about it, your paypal might be banned.

Sarahiko has a scam accusation against them here --> Hero Member Sarahiko trying to Scam via Paypal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538734.0 Please look into this before considering a trade.

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actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins?
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actually, ure is not a accusation, its just wrongly accusing. let me ask u. did u or did u not take my money and refuse to refund AND did not give me my bitcoins?

i did not take your money. You have tried to steal me. This is an Scam attempt.

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July 08, 2016, 10:33:51 AM
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Even Donation could get chargebacked on Paypal.

ONLY TRANSACTION as "FAMILY AND FRIENDS" are SAVE Payments from Paypal.

Sarahiko could u please proof that u send as "FAMILY AND FRIEND".
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE YOUR NOT A LIAR!


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Do i understand you correct - that "FRIENDS AND FAMILY" is impossible to chargeback?

If the funds were backed with a credit card, you can chargeback through that card. So, no, it is not impossible.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

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September 11, 2016, 07:05:33 AM
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I agree with OP 100%. This Paxful site is a joke, and makes all Bitcoin look like a scam.

We review sites independently to help the community and put our experiences online.

Paxfulreview.com is the website for our review of Paxful. Just want to share that with the community. Pay the love forward.
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June 28, 2017, 11:50:52 AM
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Paxful.com is a scam. Trade on localbitcoins . com next time

Take a look on their scam site from this links

1) https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6jqlpp/stay_away_from_paxfulcom_the_moderators_are/

2) http://www.nairaland.com/3884643/www.paxful.com-fraud-scammer-site-founder

3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1987998.0

4) http://www.nairaland.com/3887327/never-trade-paxful.com-owner-start#57917835

They will ban the vendor, take all his coins and won't even resolve issue with the Card owner.  Scam both Vendor and Card seller




The owner were caught with drug weeks ago in Miami, USA.

Popular site in USA Posted this, read it here https://cointelegraph.com/news/paxful-exchange-ceo-and-cto-arrested-in-miami-on-weapons-and-drugs-charges






STAY AWAY FROM PAXFUL.COM PLEASE, THEY ARE DANGEROUS.


PAXFUL.COM STOLE MY  0.6BTC BITCOINS, THEY ARE SCAM SITE
NEVER  KEEP YOUR COINS WITH THEM PLEASE.
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Did you try to use another alternative like https://www.megachange.is ?

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