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August 14, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
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This statement is completely false. None tries to oppose a newbie or doesn't accept their valued posts. Most of the time newbies will be advised not to get caught into the hands of scams because scammers always target newbies to make profit with their attractive earning methods.

That's true even I was scammed when I was a newbie, and as a newbie we always look on the ways to earn bitcoin fast and scammers takes advantage of it and scam us very easily.
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August 14, 2016, 01:09:06 PM
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I not belive newbies are fool or an easy target to scam

They should just use common sense and use their brsin before they deal

It's the same as in real life if a deal sounds too good to be true it's a scam or there is a hiden term or trick behind

Or will you blindly trust someone who say give me your car for a test drive and say i come back 100% i swear i think newbies would not be that fool so the should use the same sense on the internet!
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August 14, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
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I not belive newbies are fool or an easy target to scam

They should just use common sense and use their brsin before they deal

It's the same as in real life if a deal sounds too good to be true it's a scam or there is a hiden term or trick behind

Or will you blindly trust someone who say give me your car for a test drive and say i come back 100% i swear i think newbies would not be that fool so the should use the same sense on the internet!

Its not that people don't have common sense but those people have trick to scam you and that is the reason they are called scammers and ordinary people like us get cheated.
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August 14, 2016, 03:15:09 PM
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Well if they're newbies that means they're new and most of the time, they dont know that much they should and its higher chance that they'll be scammed. Also, no one will trust them that much since theyre newbies and there arent that many options for them at such lower ranks.

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August 14, 2016, 07:50:55 PM
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Well if they're newbies that means they're new and most of the time, they dont know that much they should and its higher chance that they'll be scammed. Also, no one will trust them that much since theyre newbies and there arent that many options for them at such lower ranks.

I think we should guide newbies on forum and should help them to stay away from scammers, and if a newbie will spend more time here then he will come to know what is genuine and what is scam.
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August 14, 2016, 08:22:22 PM
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Some newbies actually join here to become unwitting shills for a less than reputable "faucets", honestly, I made this mistake when I first started here. I joined to post transaction records for payment confirmations for a faucet that I later learned was a ponzi, to give the illusion that it was paying out. Unfortunately, like so many ponzis, it went scam.. I tend to stay out of that section of the board now, because not only did that happen right after I chose to invest in it foolishly, I also invested in another "ponzi" that turned scam after 2 years of operation where the admin falsely claimed to have been seized by the FBI. So yes, in a sense, I was foolish when I was a newbie, but learning from ones mistakes makes you wise.. usually.

This knowledge came from other members sharing their wisdom with me. So yes, there are "good" people that are newbies, seeking guidance and assistance, although sometime their questions can be random and answers can usually be found with a little searching, they are trying to find their sea-legs in a sense, and with proper guidance, they do not turn to the dark side.. :p
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August 14, 2016, 08:27:17 PM
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They would considered that if they get mixed up in questionable activity on the forum.
That can quite easily happen if they start to buy and sell then don't live up to paying back what is owed in a trade.
That to me is just foolish behavior from the unexperienced new members on the forum.
But you must live and learn.
The fools are the ones that do not and continue on their way with out a care in the world. Sad

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August 15, 2016, 02:12:26 AM
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I not belive newbies are fool or an easy target to scam

They should just use common sense and use their brsin before they deal

It's the same as in real life if a deal sounds too good to be true it's a scam or there is a hiden term or trick behind

Or will you blindly trust someone who say give me your car for a test drive and say i come back 100% i swear i think newbies would not be that fool so the should use the same sense on the internet!
Apparently though that's not how scammers act these days. Scammers use an almost so true but still good offer. They know that people wouldn't give money if their deal is so good to be true. So they use a more realistic deal. Scammers are becoming smarter and smarter with more and more solid ideas. Most scammers fake BTC transactions to prove that they are legit.

Sometimes, common sense just isn't enough to avoid dealing with scammer. Only experience can teach you well and newbies lack experience.

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August 15, 2016, 03:16:26 AM
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Well if they're newbies that means they're new and most of the time, they dont know that much they should and its higher chance that they'll be scammed. Also, no one will trust them that much since theyre newbies and there arent that many options for them at such lower ranks.

I think we should guide newbies on forum and should help them to stay away from scammers, and if a newbie will spend more time here then he will come to know what is genuine and what is scam.

Yeah, because most newbie do not know the variety of risks that could he experienced in the world of bitcoin. I know because this experience happened to me before. And for newbie also not too lazy to read and learn from the existing threads. Because with reading, newbie will not be regarded as a fool. IMO

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August 15, 2016, 03:57:36 AM
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Well if they're newbies that means they're new and most of the time, they dont know that much they should and its higher chance that they'll be scammed. Also, no one will trust them that much since theyre newbies and there arent that many options for them at such lower ranks.

I think we should guide newbies on forum and should help them to stay away from scammers, and if a newbie will spend more time here then he will come to know what is genuine and what is scam.

Yeah, because most newbie do not know the variety of risks that could he experienced in the world of bitcoin. I know because this experience happened to me before. And for newbie also not too lazy to read and learn from the existing threads. Because with reading, newbie will not be regarded as a fool. IMO

We experience all here of being a newbie, and no one directly jump to a veteran and yes, its our responsible to learn into things that we dont even know or heard even before.
This forum have lots of information and guidelines  for you to learn.

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August 15, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

No I don't think so, because someone just joined the forum doesnt mean that he or she doesnt know anything about bitcoin or has zero knowledge. People join here even if they are CEO of a company/startup and can have good communication/quality posts.

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August 15, 2016, 08:31:06 PM
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

No I don't think so, because someone just joined the forum doesnt mean that he or she doesnt know anything about bitcoin or has zero knowledge. People join here even if they are CEO of a company/startup and can have good communication/quality posts.

Exactly and we should not look at the rank but the contribution that he have made in his post, may be he will share some valuable information that no one else is aware about.
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August 16, 2016, 03:34:26 AM
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Some people get over excited when they enter a forum.  They are eager to learn and forget that a search is just a click away.  Also, posting is an opportunity to have your voice heard and some people forget that and post previously answered questions.
However, some 'status newbs' are trolls, account farmers, or want a new face. Be careful.
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August 16, 2016, 03:57:55 AM
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Some people get over excited when they enter a forum.  They are eager to learn and forget that a search is just a click away.  Also, posting is an opportunity to have your voice heard and some people forget that and post previously answered questions.
However, some 'status newbs' are trolls, account farmers, or want a new face. Be careful.

I think this can not be called stupidity, because we know some newbie still have little knowledge about this forum moreover they do not want to read the existing legislation and I call it lazy. So with that some of them prefer to make the same thread rather than having to bother to look for a similar thread and existing. thanks

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August 16, 2016, 04:12:29 AM
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Some people get over excited when they enter a forum.  They are eager to learn and forget that a search is just a click away.  Also, posting is an opportunity to have your voice heard and some people forget that and post previously answered questions.
However, some 'status newbs' are trolls, account farmers, or want a new face. Be careful.

I think this can not be called stupidity, because we know some newbie still have little knowledge about this forum moreover they do not want to read the existing legislation and I call it lazy. So with that some of them prefer to make the same thread rather than having to bother to look for a similar thread and existing. thanks

This will always happen. Some of them might be lazy, but others just didn't know about it. I think once you created a new thread and people complain about the redundancy of this thread, you won't do it again.

Beginners are here to make mistakes.
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August 16, 2016, 04:33:43 AM
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Some people get over excited when they enter a forum.  They are eager to learn and forget that a search is just a click away.  Also, posting is an opportunity to have your voice heard and some people forget that and post previously answered questions.
However, some 'status newbs' are trolls, account farmers, or want a new face. Be careful.

Searching the forum for specific information can be a daunting task, it's a lot easier to just post a question directly.
I think it might help to have a read only section where information about Bitcoin is organized in a logical and comprehensive manner. We could have a separate thread where people could discuss/suggest things/ideas to add to the section. But the section itself would be read only and maintained by a mod or volunteer. Any comment posted in a thread would only contain updates to the topic. That way you won't need to scan dozens of pages to find specific info, like you would in a normal thread.
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August 16, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
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This will always happen. Some of them might be lazy, but others just didn't know about it. I think once you created a new thread and people complain about the redundancy of this thread, you won't do it again.

Beginners are here to make mistakes.

Yeah I know, some of them do exist that do not know. But there are also some who have been reprimanded and then do it again. My advice to the beginner should read more serious again and not have to ask all the things that already exists in this forum.

I think beginners here to learn, not to make mistakes. They made a mistake because of the limitations of their knowledge.

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August 16, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
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This will always happen. Some of them might be lazy, but others just didn't know about it. I think once you created a new thread and people complain about the redundancy of this thread, you won't do it again.

Beginners are here to make mistakes.

Yeah I know, some of them do exist that do not know. But there are also some who have been reprimanded and then do it again. My advice to the beginner should read more serious again and not have to ask all the things that already exists in this forum.

I think beginners here to learn, not to make mistakes. They made a mistake because of the limitations of their knowledge.

You both have right, but i think it was most because of Newbie users that was joining Signature Campaigns and start shitposting around the forum asking stupid questions again and again just to earn decent amount of Bitcoin.

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August 16, 2016, 03:41:17 PM
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Well if they're newbies that means they're new and most of the time, they dont know that much they should and its higher chance that they'll be scammed. Also, no one will trust them that much since theyre newbies and there arent that many options for them at such lower ranks.

I think we should guide newbies on forum and should help them to stay away from scammers, and if a newbie will spend more time here then he will come to know what is genuine and what is scam.

Exactly, that the thing I say to most of the newbie posts here. Smiley but by the time they actually get some btc, they'l probably learn a thing or two about scams Cheesy however better safe than sorry.

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August 16, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
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This was a long thread to read through.  My voice in this post is to say that I personally have been reading here for well over a year.  Maybe two.  I didn't decide to join on a whim.  There are times I will need help, but I promise you if you watch my posts you will see me giving back way more than taking.  Its just how I "roll".  I am a security and network buff and I beyond a doubt know my away around communications systems.  So for now sit back and don't trust me if you want, I am good with that.  In the military you earned your stripes and I will here too.  Why?  Won't try; I'll just give back and it will happen on its own.  I only want my readers to someday know they can bank on my guidance, and I will never ask to be paid for help.  I have had so much fun reading these forums and I have learned a bunch.  Take it or leave it, that is my story.

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