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[riceberry]

HEAT Ledger Ltd
H.E.A.T.
H.E.A.T. Ledger
HEAT

I think a design for a heat token is needed before the release removing "HEAT LEDGER" from the graphic something simple, iconic that works at any pixel resolution and if you intend to keep that heat ledger design reserve it for the Ltd company. As seen below it will never be visible when displayed at small pixel resolutions

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/heat-ledger/

CryptoCurrencies used to be a community effort I think this has moved on where the community can simply be passengers along for the ride. Maybe discussing the heat ledger logo is as peculiar as me calling my Yorkshire Bank to discus way to improve their logo/branding

I also agree with this. Website needs fixing too, it's too much going on, needs to be simple and sexy with emphasis on heat.

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[riceberry]

Someone realised HEAT is not a shitcoin, and has a tiny marketcap at current prices. Price increasing 0.00015263 btc currently. Thin sell pressure too, and a small wall at 0.0002 btc which will be broken.

[LiskEnterprise]

Correct me if i am wrong.

I congratulate the HEAT team and they well deserve the money as the tech could be great.

and also to the long term holders of FIM who also deserve their reward for testing

and their patience for getting heat to where it is now..

BUT.....

FIMK holders paid

2 500 000 - 0.000031

2 000 000 - 0.000041

1 600 000 - 0.000052

1 000 000 - 0.000062

average 0.0000465

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6 500 000 total FIMK HEAT BUYS

16 551 977 Heat reserved.

25,000,000 total heat

40% about are FIM holders.
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40% of holders bought at average .0000465
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Average FIM buy in - .0000465

Average BTC buy in - .0000795

Average ETH buy in - .000100

Average NXT buy in - .000123

I am concerned the current price on C-cex will promote a dump.

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would you sell what you bought at the current price
0.00015

if you bought it at
0.0000465

MORE THAN 3X profitable sale...

3x your investment at opening.

I want to encourage lower prices to avoid any dump.

Steady growth not hype and mis-maths.

The markets currently active are not FIM buyers they are BTC buyers only the FIM buyers are still not able to trade.

Encourage a hold mentality not fast profit dumping as it looks bad for the HEAT history if we open with a dump.

Moderate price increase for a few months would be best.

[windjc]

Correct me if i am wrong.

I congratulate the HEAT team and they well deserve the money as the tech could be great.

and also to the long term holders of FIM who also deserve their reward for testing

and their patience for getting heat to where it is now..

BUT.....

FIMK holders paid

2 500 000 - 0.000031

2 000 000 - 0.000041

1 600 000 - 0.000052

1 000 000 - 0.000062

average 0.0000465

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6 500 000 total FIMK HEAT BUYS

16 551 977 Heat reserved.

25,000,000 total heat

40% about are FIM holders.
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40% of holders bought at average .0000465
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Average FIM buy in - .0000465

Average BTC buy in - .0000795

Average ETH buy in - .000100

Average NXT buy in - .000123

I am concerned the current price on C-cex will promote a dump.

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would you sell what you bought at the current price
0.00015

if you bought it at
0.0000465

MORE THAN 3X profitable sale...

3x your investment at opening.

I want to encourage lower prices to avoid any dump.

Steady growth not hype and mis-maths.

The markets currently active are not FIM buyers they are BTC buyers only the FIM buyers are still not able to trade.

Encourage a hold mentality not fast profit dumping as it looks bad for the HEAT history if we open with a dump.

Moderate price increase for a few months would be best.

Was FIM really that cheap? I had no idea.

[Kazadar]

Correct me if i am wrong.

...

I am concerned the current price on C-cex will promote a dump.

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would you sell what you bought at the current price
0.00015

if you bought it at
0.0000465

MORE THAN 3X profitable sale...

3x your investment at opening.

I want to encourage lower prices to avoid any dump.

Steady growth not hype and mis-maths.

The markets currently active are not FIM buyers they are BTC buyers only the FIM buyers are still not able to trade.

Encourage a hold mentality not fast profit dumping as it looks bad for the HEAT history if we open with a dump.

Moderate price increase for a few months would be best.

You are wrong at the moment.
The holdings havent been multiplied by 1.45 yet, so FIMK investors would only double their their investments.

FIMK was 3 times cheaper which is a bit strange but unfortunatly its too late to change it now.

[LiskEnterprise]

You are wrong at the moment.
The holdings havent been multiplied by 1.45 yet, so FIMK investors would only double their their investments.

FIMK was 3 times cheaper which is a bit strange but unfortunately its too late to change it now.

yes no one has been 1.45x yet, no one even FIMK.

you also in your last line say it is three times cheaper... so you agree...

Can you detail how i am wrong as that is not an issue and not the issue i am mentioning.

FIMK is Due to have and i thank FIM coin holders -  its discount as it is the base we are on now.

But on average the other coins BTC and NXT and ETH paid the btc that made the full funding.

The FIM i do not think is sell able but that is fine. I hope it finds a use inside HEAT.


But what i am saying is 40% of the investors paid three times less than the current C-Cex price.

So if 0.00015 is the price when everyone can trade i am cautious that 40% of the investors who some got in at 0.000031

COUNT YOUR ZEROS...

they will sell to get 5x the price.

I am not FUD -

one guy crashed the HEAT price from an extra zero in his sale position.

I got 70% of those coins. I am a buyer but when the price meets the current facts.

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Yes i would like to buy more HEAT lower..

Yes i want HEAT to NOT crash on market opening.

Yes i am fully invested in HEAT and now hope it goes up.

BUT - i will not sell for a year or more so it does not matter to me.

I just want heat to have a good reputation and a good ICO and no price smashing.

A good price for HEAT today is 0.000065.

Why is that a good price - becasue the ICO shows us the facts and numbers.

Nothing else is new information.

Once the opening and the wallet and the tech is out then let it raise up...

BUT NOT ON SPECULATION ...

If i have free cash in hand i will look at buying up to .0001 but thats me.

I just think the facts are clear.


THERE ARE

2 500 000 HEAT out there bought at - 0.000031

2 000 000 HEAT out there bought at - 0.000041

waiting...

Look i expect a huge dump and i will  be buying...

But i want to avoid people loosing money on speculation without looking at these numbers.

[idolacchacked]

all can be avoided if only give extra coins to buyers who bought with other coins than Fimk...otherwise it will be a race to dump before the Fimk buyers

[Kazadar]

You are wrong at the moment.
The holdings havent been multiplied by 1.45 yet, so FIMK investors would only double their their investments.

FIMK was 3 times cheaper which is a bit strange but unfortunately its too late to change it now.

yes no one has been 1.45x yet, no one even FIMK.

you also in your last line say it is three times cheaper... so you agree...

Can you detail how i am wrong as that is not an issue and not the issue i am mentioning.

FIMK is Due to have and i thank FIM coin holders -  its discount as it is the base we are on now.

But on average the other coins BTC and NXT and ETH paid the btc that made the full funding.

The FIM i do not think is sell able but that is fine. I hope it finds a use inside HEAT.


But what i am saying is 40% of the investors paid three times less than the current C-Cex price.

So if 0.00015 is the price when everyone can trade i am cautious that 40% of the investors who some got in at 0.000031

COUNT YOUR ZEROS...

they will sell to get 5x the price.

I am not FUD -

one guy crashed the HEAT price from an extra zero in his sale position.

I got 70% of those coins. I am a buyer but when the price meets the current facts.

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Yes i would like to buy more HEAT lower..

Yes i want HEAT to NOT crash on market opening.

Yes i am fully invested in HEAT and now hope it goes up.

BUT - i will not sell for a year or more so it does not matter to me.

I just want heat to have a good reputation and a good ICO and no price smashing.

A good price for HEAT today is 0.000065.

Why is that a good price - becasue the ICO shows us the facts and numbers.

Nothing else is new information.

Once the opening and the wallet and the tech is out then let it raise up...

BUT NOT ON SPECULATION ...

If i have free cash in hand i will look at buying up to .0001 but thats me.

I just think the facts are clear.


THERE ARE

2 500 000 HEAT out there bought at - 0.000031

2 000 000 HEAT out there bought at - 0.000041

waiting...

Look i expect a huge dump and i will  be buying...

But i want to avoid people loosing money on speculation without looking at these numbers.

You are calculating with the numbers after the multiplier.

Right now the cheapest ones are FIMK S1 at 0.000045



As the stake multiplier havent been added yet, you should use Price/HEAT.

Paid/HEAT is only correct after the multiplier.

[LiskEnterprise]

all can be avoided if only give extra coins to buyers who bought with other coins than Fimk...otherwise it will be a race to dump before the Fimk buyers

No way.

A deal is a deal - immutable --

We are all fine with the deal as it was proposed and arranged in the open.

but now lets not f*&ckk up with any greed or FOMO ( Pied piper show - fear of missing out ) - lets make it a smooth release.

HEAT will be one of the biggest platforms out there.

For its niche.

[LiskEnterprise]

As the stake multiplier havent been added yet, you should use Price/HEAT.

Paid/HEAT is only correct after the multiplier.

the cheapest purchase for the heat WITHOUT the multiplier.

Is same as now. - no multiplier applied yet.

IS 0.000031 BTC  for 2 500 00 HEAT not FIM but heat tokens.

next is 0.000041 BTC for another 2,000,000 HEAT.

that is 4.5 million for under 0.000041 BTC

and yes that number 4.5 million in early adopters needs to be multiplied 1.45 times. but that's later after 22nd august.

FIM owns 6,535.000 heat at max... 0.0000041

out of NOT 25 mil but less than that.. 25 mil is 1.45 applied already

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side note - maybe NXT 9 a great platform) one day 1 billion coins should be $1 each.

Better than USD YEN and EUR right?

But HEAT at 50 mil - omg should be -- through the roof....

but not pump and dump. Lets not go there..

Pay what you like. I am going into ETC now - to sell later for more HEAT.

But if the average buyin is 3 - 4 times less than the actual release price.

What will happen.
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TWO answers

FIMK dudes  know to hold as they know the two man heat team is strong.

Sell half for profit after waiting two years. at .000065

[LiskEnterprise]

""Right now the cheapest ones are FIMK S1 at 0.000045""

yes you might be right about that...sorry i will check.

SO if you are right every time i say

0.000031 i mean

0.000045 right?

Still the point is,

for the under the radar best ICO

very quiet here and the slack.

Cool with me as that seems the FIM way.

Tech before hype right.

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lets release cool and no fud and scandal.

NO crash 2/3rd down.

Most alts look like that if you go to coinmarket.

Lets start low and grow Pi style

[Kazadar]

""Right now the cheapest ones are FIMK S1 at 0.000045""

yes you might be right about that...sorry i will check.

SO if you are right every time i say

0.000031 i mean

0.000045 right?

Still the point is,

for the under the radar best ICO

very quiet here and the slack.

Cool with me as that seems the FIM way.

Tech before hype right.

Yes the multiplier wont be added until launch. At the moment the exchange tokens are basicly IOUs

These options are released around October / November, and they can be claimed through any genuine HEAT holdings. That also means HEAT obtained from C-CEX or any other exhange, or private trade, or through any means. It doesn't make a difference where you've got your HEAT from, as long as it's genuine HEAT in the HEAT blockchain it'll be eligible for the discount options. But no HEAT tokens (IOU) on any exchange will be eligible. So to receive discount tokens (that can BTW be traded if our legal plans go through), you need to withdraw your HEAT from an exchange first.

The 1.45x multiplier (not exact figure, may be slightly adjusted), however, will be applied to all exchange IOU, so that the total number of HEAT in circulation will be exactly 25 Million at time of genesis block on September 5th, despite the fact that only 66% of that was reserved in the ICO. Maybe the easiest way to think of it is that we distribute the full 25M lot anyway, even though we only got payment for 16 551 997 HEAT.

I do think its unavoidable that some of the FIMK buyers will dump early (some already have), but as long as the tech is solid, I am not to worried as the potential for HEAT is huge.

[lovely89]

Stop bitching ladies. We all knew the conditions before we bought. If you thought fimk was cheaper, you should have bought fimk then bought in. Simple. jl777 destroyed the first stage of fimk within minutes anyway. Everyone else got in stage 2+.

Also remember that fimk is currently 1/4 of the ico price way back. It felt like the price was set to honor ico participants from dgex.

Regardless, we all knew the conditions from the beginning. This means no one had an unfair advantage. This fear of dumping is irrational unless you purely think heat is a pump and dump scheme.

[LiskEnterprise]

I do think its unavoidable that some of the FIMK buyers will dump early (some already have), but as long as the tech is solid, I am not to worried as the potential for HEAT is huge.

i think there is no doubt about that.

If the whitepaper is correct ...

The history is perfect through NXT to FIM.

Also the engineering of already great products.

Very exciting.

Funny people are looking at eth or dash etc.

but that is ok, this ideally is not a hype community but a tech future driven one.

Also i did wish it was a full ICO so they have more funds.

But it will all be cool.

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If Heat opens with a instant exchange market.

Can i request we place a market NOW for IOTA


We could be the first IOTA ( no need for escrow exchange)

I have IOTA to buy and sell..

Mostly buy.

[LiskEnterprise]

Stop bitching ladies. We all knew the conditions before we bought. If you thought fimk was cheaper, you should have bought fimk then bought in. Simple. jl777 destroyed the first stage of fimk within minutes anyway. Everyone else got in stage 2+.

Also remember that fimk is currently 1/4 of the ico price way back. It felt like the price was set to honor ico participants from dgex.

Regardless, we all knew the conditions from the beginning. This means no one had an unfair advantage. This fear of dumping is irrational unless you purely think heat is a pump and dump scheme.

Can i re phrase that. Jl777 helped so much as his payment was 3 million NXT.

He paid in FIM and then in NXT.

Either the guy planned it to equal out or felt guilty to but only FIM.

Also another idea that i know is in the planning.

Dirk and JL777 should team up and merge tech as they have done and plan to do.

DIRK is a guy that is friends will alot of DEVS.

he has not made fights like the crypto is used to .

Another reason i am doubled down on heat.

[bitcoinuserz]

One more question, the amount of nxt holding by heat will create a separate Ardor token. Who would be owning that token? Do you devs just eat it or is it shared in like shareholder fashion?

[ShooterXD]

Hey dude, do u need a portuguese translation?

Call me if u want this!

cya

[m4nki]

Following this thread.

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