I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Yes You Do!

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I was merely pointing out that you are in fact receiving payment from betcoin.ag, while there is no evidence that I am aware of that suggests that twitchyseal is receiving any payment from any betcoin.ag competitor. Based on this alone, it looks more like you are being paid to shill for betcoin, not that twitchyseal is being paid to harm their competitors.

I had auctioned my signature space, and the owner of crypto games won the auction. You were free to bid if you so choose, however one requirement is that I not advertise what I view to be a scam. I actually had a negative rating against the owners of crypto games for several months due to an issue with how they handled certain payouts; I removed my rating after they remediated the issue.

The company that I am advertising for does not have the ability to influence my position on any given debate. I form my opinion based on the facts that are available to me, and my own judgement. There is no amount of money that could possibly convince me to say that something is my opinion when in fact it is not.

Edit: I would also note that the only people defending betcoin are those who are wearing their signature. This is very similar to how the idiots who were advertising the scam site DaDice were blindly supporting them.

I understand what you're saying and i too believe it is true that you probably are not acting in favor of site you advertise, but i don't think the company that bought
your signature space hoped for the same.

I am by far not a shill, but rather just one of the members on who a clan of people tried to use bullying tactics  to make us do what they want, how they want, and when they want.
The fact that i don't react well on threats is one of my bigger flaws, so i apologize if sometimes i get too carried away.


EDIT: Do you realize that, for example, crypto-games.net that you advertise -  is an illegal gambling site with absolutely no gambling licence ? (Just like Da-Dice was)

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[Quickseller]

I am by far not a shill, but rather just one of the members on who a clan of people tried to use bullying tactics  to make us do what they want, how they want, and when they want.
The fact that i don't react well on threats is one of my bigger flaws, so i apologize if sometimes i get too carried away.

Among the people in the DT network that have left betcoin.ag negative trust, one I have zero respect for due to his perpensidy to help his friends steal millions of dollars from people that trust him, one I believe is too immature to have any serious amount of authority, and one I trust. I can say that I am not part of any clan that is against betcoin.

EDIT: Do you realize that, for example, crypto-games.net that you advertise -  is an illegal gambling site with absolutely no gambling licence ? (Just like Da-Dice was)

Illegal in which jurisdiction? Which jurisdiction's licenses are they missing? Are they accepting players from any of these jurisdictions? Don't answer these questions because I do not care.

If you uncover evidence that cryptogames is cheating players, is not crediting deposits, is not paying out withdrawals, or is cheating investors, then please let me know, and I will promptly investigate, and remove my signature if I find the evidence to be credible, and counterpoints do not outweigh the evidence.

[Heutenamos]

Edit: I would also note that the only people defending betcoin are those who are wearing their signature.

edit again panther. I am not.

one I believe is too immature to have any serious amount of authority,

[DarkDays]

EDIT: Do you realize that, for example, crypto-games.net that you advertise -  is an illegal gambling site with absolutely no gambling licence ? (Just like Da-Dice was)

Just like Betcoin is.

Also, I'd like to point out that if you live in the US and are advertising as an affiliate for Betcoin (or any other illegal US-facing gambling site), you are actively breaking US law.  Playing on these sites is fine, but when you act as an employee, and especially one that is trying to recruit people to play on the site, that's illegal.

[Quickseller]

Edit: I would also note that the only people defending betcoin are those who are wearing their signature.

edit again panther. I am not.

I must have missed your post when you said that you thought that Betcoin.ag was in the right.

The only posts that I have seen of yours in this thread is that the extortionist moderator Lauda has the right to advertise what he wants and if the OP disagrees with Lauda advertising for betcoin then the OP can distrust Lauda.

[Heutenamos]

The only posts that I have seen of yours in this thread is that the extortionist moderator Lauda has the right to advertise what he wants and if the OP disagrees with Lauda advertising for betcoin then the OP can distrust Lauda.

If the moderator is extortionist then the OP can extort him in reply as well. There is no question of betcoin

Edit: I would also note that the only people defending betcoin are those who are wearing their signature.

edit again panther. I am not.

I must have missed your post when you said that you thought that Betcoin.ag was in the right.

You are prolly right but not all participants are defending betcoin as a casino, some of them are also against other people censoring them.

Who are you two to force me into anything ?
Who are you to bully me and other betcoin.ag signature campaign members with open threats?

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I am here 5 fucking years, and i can tell you people that centralization of this forum never was worse then it is now.
Decentralization forum based on centralized trust rating network, my god. This is exactly what created this atmosphere of company shills that lurk around the
forum dealing with DT to top up their trust and to selectively choose in other people's name who's right and who's wrong, and what you should and should not say.

This is school example of extortion, so stop lying to yourself that you're the good guy here, you're not.

[actmyname]

You are prolly right but not all participants are defending betcoin as a casino, some of them are also against other people censoring them.

I do not think that any casino that blatantly deletes and ignores posts [that poke at the casino's ethics and ask important questions towards them] should be trusted. As for people defending said casino, if they have been given the information and are still ignorant to it (or equally bad, are shills) and are still willing to advertise for it, which advocates a product, then it is clear that negative feedback can be applied. Warnings were given - it is not as if Lutpin is not offering the signature campaign members a choice.

Consider if this situation were to have happened physically and not digitally: if you were advertising for a real casino that did what Betcoin has, then shouldn't you too receive backlash at least in some form? It shows that you're associating yourself with a provider that is ethically wrong.

I'd also like to redirect this whole Betcoin talk down to BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot (somewhat active) and Betcoin.ag Retaliates (Collection of scam accusations against me) for anything against TwitchySeal and people defending Betcoin.ag (and Betsoft).


Oh, and finally: Betcoin.ag has a new signature campaign thread (which was previously probably the only way to actually talk to them about problems) which is now self-moderated to protect against spam (issues directed at them)

[Heutenamos]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg15778933#msg15778933

stop with the idiotic closed minded "I think you don't think" explanations & show me all you got. Otherwise you are a liar pussycat.

[actmyname]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg15778933#msg15778933

stop with the idiotic closed minded "I think you don't think" explanations & show me all you got. Otherwise you are a liar pussycat.

What does that post have to do with anything? OgNasty's involvement in Betcoin? That can't be used as justification. I'd also like to state again that Betcoin created the self-moderated thread to censor content that can be used against them. If only they would reply.
I've already linked the master list in my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13507632#msg13507632.