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November 17, 2017, 02:23:31 PM
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sorry if my question sounds noob but a wp 2.0 is just a new edition of previous wp or it will bring significant changes on the system?
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November 17, 2017, 02:26:44 PM
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wah .. this is probably the time when ICO is still very rare .. seen when i read this xaurum thread is very amazing a great project, if i do not read wrong i found that this project from 2015, 2016, 2017 this long project hopefully xaurum can always get success
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November 17, 2017, 02:27:45 PM
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All coins have good and bad moments,with xaurum we had joy at the begining now we are on bad mood,it can not be just bad,things will change.In my opinion the main focus should be to expend xaurum in other countries and find few masternodes and everything would be easier.I must check whitepaper and see what is written in it.
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November 17, 2017, 02:28:04 PM
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Good point AK!

I have few more questions. Huh

1.) Where is the roadmap?

2.) If there is no promotion, marketing etc... the price will not reach production price and mint will not happen. How to cut this circle?

3.) Where is weekly report?

4.) Where is the app?

5.) Can I buy Xaurum via bitins?

It's all amount trust, trust and trust. With such a poor communication investors can not trust the team. Investors are getting nervous. All that cars the team has, this is not a good sign to the community. If you want the project to be successful you put all your money and effort in the project development and not in the fancy cars.

Whitepaper 2.0. good to be updated but there is all we already know (those who follow the project seriously).

Xaurum investors don't seek stability. We seek healthy growth (positive volatility is better than stability).



Thanks for support. My point of view is the same, it is not healthy for the investors to see adds on luxury cars. I am not saying that team is using inestors' money to live a luxurious life (and I hope I am not qrong). And I agree with you, postitive volatility is better for investors than stability. As the coin stagnates there is no market high and low difference.
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November 17, 2017, 02:29:28 PM
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All coins have good and bad moments,with xaurum we had joy at the begining now we are on bad mood,it can not be just bad,things will change.In my opinion the main focus should be to expend xaurum in other countries and find few masternodes and everything would be easier.I must check whitepaper and see what is written in it.
Agree with you, we can't just judge a coin when it on down.
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November 17, 2017, 02:43:08 PM
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The problem is not the price, the main problem is communication. We don't know what is going on with the project. You cannot build trust on promises. The market price is driven by expectations, and it's a reflection of all future benefits discounted to present value. It's as simple as that. If you don't know what to expect or if you don't believe in promises you cannot expect the price to go up.

Xaurum team, people trusted you their own money, at least you can do is to establish proper communication (meaning, true, reliable and up to date information). Don't promise something you cannot deliver. If you made a mistake in date (7th instead of 17th), then please correct the date on your web page. All this small details sum up to mosaic of trust.

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November 17, 2017, 03:36:27 PM
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Small advice be investor and not daily, weekly or monthly trader....becouse if you trading there is a possibilty to loose money in forex 98% and more than 99,5% in crypto( very volatile market) I think there is no important where did you buy Btc one, two, or 8 year ago.

Be patient and you will be rewarder also in Xaurum.
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November 17, 2017, 03:44:22 PM
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The problem is not the price, the main problem is communication. We don't know what is going on with the project. You cannot build trust on promises. The market price is driven by expectations, and it's a reflection of all future benefits discounted to present value. It's as simple as that. If you don't know what to expect or if you don't believe in promises you cannot expect the price to go up.

Xaurum team, people trusted you their own money, at least you can do is to establish proper communication (meaning, true, reliable and up to date information). Don't promise something you cannot deliver. If you made a mistake in date (7th instead of 17th), then please correct the date on your web page. All this small details sum up to mosaic of trust.



well it's okay, I understand your frustration,  but it is not as simple as you wrote. You just don't know what will happen next second. If it would be so simple, everybody would be a millionaire, happy and freed from material desires. It is just not that easy, and, as life has its ups and downs, so it is normal, that xaurum & all other cc & shares or whatever, is not just uptrend. If you don't understand this (maybe simple) fact, then you will always complain thru life. I'll tell you a little secret: expectations leads to disappointments. Sometimes you buy low and sell high, and sometimes not. So when not, be patient and wait.

I agree with you on a second paragraph statement.

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November 17, 2017, 06:16:56 PM
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The problem is not the price, the main problem is communication. We don't know what is going on with the project. You cannot build trust on promises. The market price is driven by expectations, and it's a reflection of all future benefits discounted to present value. It's as simple as that. If you don't know what to expect or if you don't believe in promises you cannot expect the price to go up.

Xaurum team, people trusted you their own money, at least you can do is to establish proper communication (meaning, true, reliable and up to date information). Don't promise something you cannot deliver. If you made a mistake in date (7th instead of 17th), then please correct the date on your web page. All this small details sum up to mosaic of trust.



well it's okay, I understand your frustration,  but it is not as simple as you wrote. You just don't know what will happen next second. If it would be so simple, everybody would be a millionaire, happy and freed from material desires. It is just not that easy, and, as life has its ups and downs, so it is normal, that xaurum & all other cc & shares or whatever, is not just uptrend. If you don't understand this (maybe simple) fact, then you will always complain thru life. I'll tell you a little secret: expectations leads to disappointments. Sometimes you buy low and sell high, and sometimes not. So when not, be patient and wait.

I agree with you on a second paragraph statement.



Amen...every one need to try by himself and than he would bealive...but depend how much it cost him.

I agree with all of you...but don t be unpatient....becouse months are to short peroiod to make any conclusion.
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November 18, 2017, 10:09:19 AM
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so how did that xaurum vacuum or whatever the mystery thing was go? Like luxury apartment in Croatia or something like that?

If you want physical gold just go buy physical gold. Lots of places take crypto for physical gold. JMbullion.com. 4% discount and free shipping in the US.

Not hating the project just saying that if you want gold get gold lol

Not hating the project,but dont understanding the project.If you would understand the project you would not say buy gold,xaurum has growing gold base with every mint you have more gold behind your xaurums,this is unique.So take your time before saying non sense and read whitepaper.
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As it was explained many times before Xaurum is not an ordinary cryptocurenncy. It is a digital asset that uses blockchain technology, technology that is (so far) mostly adapted in the world of cryptocurrencies.  

Xaurums main advantage and main focus is its gold base, gold ratio and not its market price. Market prices are merely reflection of changing human behavior, on the other hand the amount of stored  gold it is not prone to any subjectivity. Xaurum’s market price has never gone lower than the value of its gold base. Xaurum tries to produce a better form of money regarding many aspects of modern-day money.

Xaurum it’s not tied to BTC ratio. Xaurum is not competing with BTC. I personally highly respect BTC  currency since it opened the doors for many wonderful projects but as stated many times Xaurum works in different way. Xaurum price is nominated in USD and when the opportunity arises I personally hope they will pair XAUR with USD. XAUR/BTC ratio changed dramatically just few days ago, it was almost 30% change, I was unable to find any comment saying: “Great job Xaurum, in just one day 30% increase in ratio towards BTC.”  

As some of you mentioned in your comment: the most promising about Xaurum is the fact that is backed by gold, and then in the next sentence forgetting about it wanting it to act like any other token. Funny.

Saying that project isn’t moving anywhere can only come from not understanding the project. The most important ratio is XAUR/GOLD. Since RICO where Xaurum was sold just above 0,03 USD, each XAUR has almost as twice as much gold behind it as the price in the middle 2016 was. To simplify: one Xaurum was bought for something more than 0,03 USD, today the same Xaurum has guaranteed around 0,06 USD of gold behind it. The market price is at the moment approximately 3 times higher these days than the gold price. To conclude this paragraph, XAUR/GOLD ratio is changing constantly with every transaction in favor of Xaurum holders.

Did it happened overnight? In two months? 5 months? No. Because building gold base is not just clicking buy and sell on exchange.

It is ok not to like the Xaurum concept, vision and the way it operates in the long-term, but please, do not try to squeeze it in to the box with volatile, unstable, highly speculative currencies, where trading is primary goal. I hope Xaurum never follows this footsteps. I rather see them increase the amount of gold gram by gram, kilo by kilo until …

As I understand Xaurum, Xaurum never was about quick buck. It never was about speculation only. If price is now stable around 17 cents with gold coverage at 0,06 USD I am only looking forward to the day when the gold coverage will be at around 0,30 cents…

And it is funny, how people demand something… “I demand answers, I demand this and that…” It is a free country. If u don’t like it, go away, or sell. It is quite simple. But if you really want this project to be even more successful, do you think your input really helps?
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November 18, 2017, 02:38:27 PM
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As it was explained many times before Xaurum is not an ordinary cryptocurenncy. It is a digital asset that uses blockchain technology, technology that is (so far) mostly adapted in the world of cryptocurrencies. 

Xaurums main advantage and main focus is its gold base, gold ratio and not its market price. Market prices are merely reflection of changing human behavior, on the other hand the amount of stored  gold it is not prone to any subjectivity. Xaurum’s market price has never gone lower than the value of its gold base. Xaurum tries to produce a better form of money regarding many aspects of modern-day money.

Xaurum it’s not tied to BTC ratio. Xaurum is not competing with BTC. I personally highly respect BTC  currency since it opened the doors for many wonderful projects but as stated many times Xaurum works in different way. Xaurum price is nominated in USD and when the opportunity arises we will willingly pair XAUR with USD. XAUR/BTC ratio changed dramatically just few days ago, it was almost 30% change, I was unable to find any comment saying: “Great job Xaurum, in just one day 30% increase in ratio towards BTC.” 

As some of you mentioned in your comment: the most promising about Xaurum is the fact that is backed by gold, and then in the next sentence forgetting about it wanting it to act like any other token. Funny.

Saying that project isn’t moving anywhere can only come from not understanding the project. The most important ratio is XAUR/GOLD. Since RICO where Xaurum was sold just above 0,03 USD, each XAUR has almost as twice as much gold behind it as the price in the middle 2016 was. To simplify: one Xaurum was bought for something more than 0,03 USD, today the same Xaurum has guaranteed around 0,06 USD of gold behind it. The market price is at the moment approximately 3 times higher these days than the gold price. To conclude this paragraph, XAUR/GOLD ratio is changing constantly with every transaction in favor of Xaurum holders.

Did it happened overnight? In two months? 5 months? No. Because building gold base is not just clicking buy and sell on exchange.

It is ok not to like the Xaurum concept, vision and the way it operates in the long-term, but please, do not try to squeeze it in to the box with volatile, unstable, highly speculative currencies, where trading is primary goal. I hope Xaurum never follows this footsteps. I rather see them increase the amount of gold gram by gram, kilo by kilo until …

As I understand Xaurum, Xaurum never was about quick buck. It never was about speculation only. If price is now stable around 17 cents with gold coverage at 0,06 USD I am only looking forward to the day when the gold coverage will be at around 0,30 cents…

And it is funny, how people demand something… “I demand answers, I demand this and that…” It is a free country. If u don’t like it, go away, or sell. It is quite simple. But if you really want this project to be even more successful, do you think your input really helps?


I personally understand the concept you are implying to. But not all of xaurum investors, including myself, bought it when the price was 0.03-0.09 dollars. So if the gold coverage is 0.06 usd per xaurum and we bought it for 0.17 usd, how can we be calm when the price is stagnant or falling? I would be quiet if I bought it for that price. My point is that all is driven by crypto market hype no matter what the background story is.
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November 18, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
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It is ok not to like the Xaurum concept, vision and the way it operates in the long-term, but please, do not try to squeeze it in to the box with volatile, unstable, highly speculative currencies, where trading is primary goal. I hope Xaurum never follows this footsteps. I rather see them increase the amount of gold gram by gram, kilo by kilo until …

And it is funny, how people demand something… “I demand answers, I demand this and that…” It is a free country. If u don’t like it, go away, or sell. It is quite simple. But if you really want this project to be even more successful, do you think your input really helps?


Just wtf? I will just leave that here, because I am so fu***ng triggered, that I cannot respond. It' because your opinion, not Xaurum.


But I will add that: Yes I think my input really helps. My input is money that I invested, so please tell me how that doesn't help?

Bitins and Petrol?
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Gamma platform?
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November 18, 2017, 09:17:56 PM
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It is ok not to like the Xaurum concept, vision and the way it operates in the long-term, but please, do not try to squeeze it in to the box with volatile, unstable, highly speculative currencies, where trading is primary goal. I hope Xaurum never follows this footsteps. I rather see them increase the amount of gold gram by gram, kilo by kilo until …

And it is funny, how people demand something… “I demand answers, I demand this and that…” It is a free country. If u don’t like it, go away, or sell. It is quite simple. But if you really want this project to be even more successful, do you think your input really helps?


Just wtf? I will just leave that here, because I am so fu***ng triggered, that I cannot respond. It' because your opinion, not Xaurum.


But I will add that: Yes I think my input really helps. My input is money that I invested, so please tell me how that doesn't help?

Bitins and Petrol?
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Gamma platform?



No, no, no he is right. If you put money in something, you should never ask, what is going on with it. That is forbiden, cuz you dont give a shit about your investment, this is common rule in financial world. So I support him... Realy, realy ... Cuz he is realy right... And im for real here
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November 18, 2017, 09:21:26 PM
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Where is your headquarters located?
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November 18, 2017, 11:36:34 PM
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One more thing to clear up. Why did you all invest in Xaurum? Because you believe in cryptocurrencies? The way I see it, there are 2 reasons people start investing in crypto: 1. They want to make money 2. They believe that cryptocurrencies will eventually replace fiat (normal) currenct.
I want both if I am honest. Has Xaurum made any step towards either of these 2? Is developing another project Gamma while your base product (Xaurum) is barely holding everything together?

I don't understand how you cannot see that Xaurum is losing value! If it is a cryptocurrency it should not be compared to dollar but to XAU/BTC ratio.
Calculate- Suppose you have 10.000 Xaurum you bought for 0.15 usd in April (total 1500 usd) and you sold them for BTC:

1. in mid-June XAU/BTC ratio was cca. 10.000 satoshis (0.0001 BTC)
    10.000 XAU= 1BTC=2600 usd, a plus of 1100 usd
    you HOLD 1BTC and you now in mid-November have almost 8000 usd!

2. you HOLD your XAU, sell it now in mid-november for BTC, XAU/BTC=2000 satoshis (0.00002 BTC)
    10.000 XAU=0.2 BTC= 1500 usd, you made nothing!

Do you get my point? Xaurum is not increasing in value. Prove me otherwise and I will apologise for my stupidity.
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November 19, 2017, 12:14:20 AM
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This project has a very large market capitalization, but why at this price so low. I watched the coin exit story on the stock exchange and so the price was even space seems not at all real. I find it interesting to watch grow again if the price to these heights, we'll see.
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November 19, 2017, 12:36:18 AM
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And it is funny, how people demand something… “I demand answers, I demand this and that…” It is a free country. If u don’t like it, go away, or sell. It is quite simple. But if you really want this project to be even more successful, do you think your input really helps?


Are you for real?? We invested our money in the project, that gives us the right to demand. If we would have known what we know now, we probbably wouldn't have done it. People demand because the promisses were made. And it is not about the price, it is about false promisses. It is about no communication. It is about treatment of investors. When they want to sell they are all sweet and sticky, when they have to deliver... then we demand to much... Then we don't understand that it is normal for deadlines to be moved...

I'm still waiting with my question what has happened in Monaco. I'm still waiting with gamma question on how will the investors supervise the renting. I'm still waiting for the roadmap. I'm still waiting with question what is going on with mints (no money or keeping the low price on purpuse). Sandll is waiting with his question on how is the project financed (how much extra units masternode gets with every mint). Why is there no videoconference possibility for the presentations in Ljubljana? What has happened with "weekly report", or is there just nothing to report (it has become more like "surprise report")?

And yes, I think my input helps. Maybe it will somehow move the team to get the things right. If they can solve most of the "demands" the project will be a lot more sucessfull. Some of us are not looking for luxury cars, but the respect and open communication for the start.
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November 19, 2017, 09:22:45 AM
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One more thing to clear up. Why did you all invest in Xaurum? Because you believe in cryptocurrencies? The way I see it, there are 2 reasons people start investing in crypto: 1. They want to make money 2. They believe that cryptocurrencies will eventually replace fiat (normal) currenct.
I want both if I am honest. Has Xaurum made any step towards either of these 2? Is developing another project Gamma while your base product (Xaurum) is barely holding everything together?

I don't understand how you cannot see that Xaurum is losing value! If it is a cryptocurrency it should not be compared to dollar but to XAU/BTC ratio.
Calculate- Suppose you have 10.000 Xaurum you bought for 0.15 usd in April (total 1500 usd) and you sold them for BTC:

1. in mid-June XAU/BTC ratio was cca. 10.000 satoshis (0.0001 BTC)
    10.000 XAU= 1BTC=2600 usd, a plus of 1100 usd
    you HOLD 1BTC and you now in mid-November have almost 8000 usd!

2. you HOLD your XAU, sell it now in mid-november for BTC, XAU/BTC=2000 satoshis (0.00002 BTC)
    10.000 XAU=0.2 BTC= 1500 usd, you made nothing!

Do you get my point? Xaurum is not increasing in value. Prove me otherwise and I will apologise for my stupidity.


You showed your stupidity because you didn't sell your xaurums and hodl btc. You had 5 months and You haven't sold??? You knew what will happen, right?
Do you get this or not, mr nostradamus? I would have millions today if i was hodl btc. We don't know what tomorrow will bring.
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One more thing to clear up. Why did you all invest in Xaurum? Because you believe in cryptocurrencies? The way I see it, there are 2 reasons people start investing in crypto: 1. They want to make money 2. They believe that cryptocurrencies will eventually replace fiat (normal) currenct.
I want both if I am honest. Has Xaurum made any step towards either of these 2? Is developing another project Gamma while your base product (Xaurum) is barely holding everything together?

I don't understand how you cannot see that Xaurum is losing value! If it is a cryptocurrency it should not be compared to dollar but to XAU/BTC ratio.
Calculate- Suppose you have 10.000 Xaurum you bought for 0.15 usd in April (total 1500 usd) and you sold them for BTC:

1. in mid-June XAU/BTC ratio was cca. 10.000 satoshis (0.0001 BTC)
    10.000 XAU= 1BTC=2600 usd, a plus of 1100 usd
    you HOLD 1BTC and you now in mid-November have almost 8000 usd!

2. you HOLD your XAU, sell it now in mid-november for BTC, XAU/BTC=2000 satoshis (0.00002 BTC)
    10.000 XAU=0.2 BTC= 1500 usd, you made nothing!

Do you get my point? Xaurum is not increasing in value. Prove me otherwise and I will apologise for my stupidity.


You showed your stupidity because you didn't sell your xaurums and hodl btc. You had 5 months and You haven't sold??? You knew what will happen, right?
Do you get this or not, mr nostradamus? I would have millions today if i was hodl btc. We don't know what tomorrow will bring.



Nitja, for me you are one of the people who don't and apparently never will get my point. I never stated I knew what was going to happen, no one does. What I want to say is that you cannot state that Xaurum is holding a strong position and its value. Ask any crypto investor or trader what makes a cryptocurrency or asset (as you like to adress XAU) strong and valuable. It is common sense. The essence of my point was to show how investors are actually losing here not winning and that it seems like XAU team doesn't see the need to establish a communication. There have been many questions asked on how the price is going to increase if we need another mint. Somebody here said we are in a magical circle or a loophole if you want; low price=no mint, no mint=low price.

All I want is that Xaurum team finally responds and gives us some kind of proof that something is happening in the direction of further xaurum development. Whitepaper 2.0 just isn't enough, for me it's worth nothing.
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