Someone please make a steem clone

[chryspano]

How many people really care about what steemit means? I just think that the best attribute/quality of a name is to be easy to pronounce, it doesn't necessary have to mean anything, although it could be an added bonus if it did. Just my random thoughts...

[iamnotback]

I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

I agree, videos & images are quicker to produce than blogs, and much more likely to be produced & shared by a regular person. Not everyone can write well but everyone can take a photo or video and upload it. Everyone wants their 15 minutes ...

As for a name, "FAMOUS", or some cool alternative spelling

edit: "Paparazzi" or an alternative spelling

Afaics, the primary reason for people to join Steemit, has nothing to do with shallow delusions of being famous on a social network.

And I don't see the need to relegate it to one genre of content. I do think users should be able to filter by content type and other sub-community attributes (e.g. tags, follows, etc). Perhaps you mean to prioritize a different genre of content as the first priority feature set?

[iamnotback]

How many people really care about what steemit means?

My limited research seems to indicate the 3 inspirations I enumerated are what inspired female Steemians to join:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558366.msg15730959#msg15730959

I just think that the best attribute/quality of a name is to be easy to pronounce, it doesn't necessary have to mean anything, although it could be an added bonus if it did. Just my random thoughts...

I agree first priority is catchy name and easy to pronounce. Otherwise recall and viral spread may suffer.

I seem to want to pronounce peerbrary as "peer berry". I have no problem pronouncing peerbase. They aren't super catchy, but at least in my mind (as of now and that might change) peerbrary is meaningful, unique, and probably recallable if they get the connection to peer + library.

Instead of librarians, we can say peerbrarians.

Edit: I thought of catchier names but they don't have appropriate meaning, such as peerjam and jambox. Jambox was for app focused content especially games, but I've decided it would be better to compete with Steem.


Btw, I own the domains for snapcash, but I've decided to go compete with Steem instead of launch under that name. (this is just a rebuttal to generalizethis who said I can't think of a catchy name)

[generalizethis]

Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

[iamnotback]

Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Note your point is very valid as a potential criticism of my plan to remove the quadratic reward (and make it linear). But with the linear reward, then more women can get a few bucks, than a few women gettings $1000s.

Also another key point is that I am wanting to build something that is also attractive to serious content creators. So that is another reason to have a different naming. I will have a monetization feature for them which Steem does not have (and where the big rewards can still come from).

[generalizethis]

Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life, but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.

[iamnotback]

Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.

Men are gaming women also. And men are also for sale at the right price. I don't really get the relevance.

Steam is a gaming platform. Reddit is a discussion site. Steemit seems to be neither of those.

[iamnotback]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Thanks for the feedback.

Peerit and what is 'it' that is being peered? And in what way peered? Doesn't seem to have any meaning. Soon there will be so many *it copycats that it won't even stand out any more. blogit, vibeit, postit, tackit, lickit, pokeit, humpit, etc..  (<--- click my link for a laugh)

The word 'it' is not brandable.

Four more ideas (variants) along that same theme:

peertrove
wetrove
peerstash
webrary

[generalizethis]

Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")

Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.

I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help?

I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com".

Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love).

Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks).

Hamlet figured it out:

"I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance."

Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name.....

Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur?

*those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in.

Men are gaming women also. And men are also for sale at the right price. I don't really get the relevance.

Steam is a gaming platform. Reddit is a discussion site. Steemit seems to be neither of those.

Steam delivers content, reddit forums--so the link is there.

As for men who hustle--they're a rare breed and women love/hate them for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Yv6J6Vzyw

This is sparknote version, the film Alphie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375173/ would be the longer course, though it doesn't nail the darker aspects as well as Salvat's video. But back on topic....

Name? Anything involving sex is too obvious, unless you are creating a decentralized porn, cam, escort site that is resistant to corporate/government interest--as I'm sure they won't want their sacred cow delving into unholy places.

Why is no one building this?

Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name.

[iamnotback]

Can anyone give me some serious help/feedback on the naming?

[Pikachu45]

For anyone who wants to build an alternative to steem the first basic fundamental is to give 1 human = 1 vote. If you want wisdom of the crowd to decide which post is best everyone should have equal power.

Also people should not be influenced by number of upvotes or voters's usernames this info should be hidden

[generalizethis]

Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name.

Phokit

"I'll take Trebek for 1000."

[DecentralizeEconomics]

Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name.

Phokit

"I'll take Trebek for 1000."

Yeah, we got some real intellectuals in here.

[kennyP]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.

Although there are some aspects of the above names I don't think are ideal (e.g. they don't really illicit an emotional reaction, unless one is really excited about the concept they intend), I do like that they seem (for me at least) to be congruent with the thought of investing long-term in building a trove of content and media that is owned collectively by no one.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I like the meaning of 'peer', but maybe use something different like 'tribe' or 'collective' or 'commune'. Dojo is another good word that evokes a good image in my mind of lots of people joining together to work towards private, but related goals, around self improvement and sharing. Another good word to base things around is 'expression'.

Edit: I also think made up words, or totally unrelated words can work well too, like 'onfinity' or 'zenith' or 'areeba'

Edit2: could always be cheeky and go with 'tangle', although the IOTArians might be pissed off

Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony'

Edit 4: a smorgasbord,  'buffet'

[generalizethis]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.

Although there are some aspects of the above names I don't think are ideal (e.g. they don't really illicit an emotional reaction, unless one is really excited about the concept they intend), I do like that they seem (for me at least) to be congruent with the thought of investing long-term in building a trove of content and media that is owned collectively by no one.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I like the meaning of 'peer', but maybe use something different like 'tribe' or 'collective' or 'commune'. Dojo is another good word that evokes a good image in my mind of lots of people joining together to work towards private, but related goals, around self improvement and sharing. Another good word to base things around is 'expression'.

Edit: I also think made up words, or totally unrelated words can work well too, like 'onfinity' or 'zenith' or 'areeba'

Edit2: could always be cheeky and go with 'tangle', although the IOTArians might be pissed off

Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony'

Edit 4: a smorgasbord,  'buffet'

rhizome

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=rhizome&allowed_in_frame=0 (using Delueze's sense of the word would probably give you the truest sense of the word and its modern implications).

[iamnotback]

Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony'

I had been playing with the word 'hive', as it is short and energetic.

Other words:

silo
chi
laud (claud)
mojo
realm

rhizome

New word for me. Thanks.

Sounds like something related to the genome.

[electronicash]

I don't think that just cloning a coin is good idea. Simple clone would never be as popular as original design.
What you want to is introduce EEE doctrine. Which means - embrace, extend, and exterminate.
This is known strategy Microsoft uses as main way to conquer the market; they first copy existing idea, hone it to the perfection and then you can kill original idea and control and monopolize this idea.

Someone will soon create another clone for it. its inevitable. there is a competitor as far as i know but sooner a clone will rise.
Most clones actually are performing well than the original ones, probably because they now see flaws.

[generalizethis]

Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony'

I had been playing with the word 'hive', as it is short and energetic.

Other words:

silo
chi
laud (claud)
mojo
realm

rhizome

New word for me. Thanks.

Sounds like something related to the genome.

The Rhizome Project

[iamnotback]

webrary

I think that name is sufficient although maybe not the most pizazz.

Storing everything in a library for the web.

I think it implies you want to get in early and grow with it, such as those who got into Bitcoin early.

It seems to also to be more conservative thus separation of impression from the name Steemit and quadratic voting rewards ($40,000 for a single blog while most get only pennies) which seems to be more about hype than a steady, methodical growth plan.


If anyone can suggest a better name or if I think of better one later, then great.

[generalizethis]

webrary

I think that name is sufficient although maybe not the most pizazz.

Storing everything in a library for the web.

I think it implies you want to get in early and grow with it, such as those who got into Bitcoin early.

It seems to also to be more conservative thus separation of impression from the name Steemit and quadratic voting rewards ($40,000 for a single blog while most get only pennies) which seems to be more about hype than a steady, methodical growth plan.


If anyone c
an suggest a better name or if I think of better one later, then great.

I would suggest you think more academia and politics, and less commercial. I'd buy into a project that's trying to create a private and decentralized content sharing platform--I wouldn't buy into steemit 2.0.  It exists and they already have me and a few others rooting them on because of the rewards they dole out (except for maybe you ) , their brand has loyalty rewards built into it.