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[allyouracid]

The decision to run an ICO for 5-20mil € (dude, do you have any sense of reality left? 5-20 mil, for what? a yobit shitcoin?) is the worst move "jason" could do. And just devaluating users' position by 95% is an absolute asshole move.

Glad I sold at least half my position a 148k, so at least I haven't lost anything.
I'll take it as a reminder to always sell when prices are good and never get attached to a shitcoin.

5-20mil €, that guy is killing me  

[o48o]

just because you love going to town on Max's penis doesn't give you the right to project your homo fantasies on me you faggot.

Must be frustrating to have that kind of fixation on others sexual orientation... And all those graphical mental images in your head.
I don't think you are in the right forum for this.

[Hunterwolfie]

just because you love going to town on Max's penis doesn't give you the right to project your homo fantasies on me you faggot.

Must be frustrating to have that kind of fixation on others sexual orientation... And all those graphical mental images in your head.
I don't think you are in the right forum for this.

oh look, one of the fucking shills trying to be witty....

aren't you meant to be licking Max's arse you fucking fag?
 

[gsxrboy]

this guys must be trolling

[vlight]

So, this turned out to be scam  Oh, i've asked dev to clean wallet from possible viruses months ago, but got no response:
https://virustotal.com/en/file/5bdf4330c4cc11a18ab639ca4836ca8b34cc2dfa063eed93e9ac0588774498a0/analysis/

It's the reason i didn't put significant BTC in this. And only trusted VLT because of ICO site recommendation.

If devs wanted to raise money for the project they should just came upfront to the community and asked what would be the best way to implement that. Instead they blew it. That's a shame

[flowerpots]

Guys, look at the bright side... at least Veltor is getting some attention. 

[sotisoti]

So, this turned out to be scam  Oh, i've asked dev to clean wallet from possible viruses months ago, but got no response:
https://virustotal.com/en/file/5bdf4330c4cc11a18ab639ca4836ca8b34cc2dfa063eed93e9ac0588774498a0/analysis/

It's the reason i didn't put significant BTC in this. And only trusted VLT because of ICO site recommendation.

If devs wanted to raise money for the project they should just came upfront to the community and asked what would be the best way to implement that. Instead they blew it. That's a shame

ICOCountDown.com I guess

[Viper1]

this guys must be trolling

The fact he calls it FUD and refers to all those that were supporting things as "degenerate gamblers", eg the people actually mining the coin and keeping the network up, says a lot about him and his attitude towards supporters. Some people seem to just be clueless about when to just shutup. But then again, that sort of attitude is what you often see from those that run PnD coins. Maybe they're just young and stupid, I just don't know.

[PikachuYou]

this guys must be trolling

The fact he calls it FUD and refers to all those that were supporting things as "degenerate gamblers", eg the people actually mining the coin and keeping the network up, says a lot about him and his attitude towards supporters. Some people seem to just be clueless about when to just shutup. But then again, that sort of attitude is what you often see from those that run PnD coins. Maybe they're just young and stupid, I just don't know.

hmmmm....

another bunch of idiots who decide to do an ICO because it's critical for them to line their own pockets while at the same time pissing on their supporters....

kind of reminds me of the PureVidz fiasco.....

[Hunterwolfie]

There you have it ladies and gents:

the guys want to get PAID



They want to get PAID to create the Bitcoin Killer....or so they say...

If we don't PAY them, they won't be able to do it.

funny thing that seems to elude them is that they are the ones who decided to start this little "endeavour".

no one asked them to come up with their so-called Bitcoin Killer.
 

[kingcrimson]

this guys must be trolling

The fact he calls it FUD and refers to all those that were supporting things as "degenerate gamblers", eg the people actually mining the coin and keeping the network up, says a lot about him and his attitude towards supporters. Some people seem to just be clueless about when to just shutup. But then again, that sort of attitude is what you often see from those that run PnD coins. Maybe they're just young and stupid, I just don't know.

I have actually never seen coin devs so hateful and hostile to their own community. It is shocking to see it. In 5+ years here. Just keep all the evidence and show it when they go live with their ICO. I will personally pay for ads to warn people as well, when the time comes.

[Zer0Sum]

Weekly Sunday update:



So 14.000,00USD worth of Servers finally arrived!
The test Setup is almost ready to go! Simulating thousands of transactions a second, network structural tests etc...
The new codebase is progressing nicely, I am reviewing each feature in the bitcoin version and reevaluating its usefulness and getting rid of technical debt, this will significantly improve network stability and efficiency.
Ones a functional version is completed, the coinswap will be initiated.
Further more remarkable graphical design progress has been made, have already decided on a new Logo and will release it with the new codebase.
Each day stepping up the game!

J.V.

Looking nice.

You guys all sucked the Big One based on this blurry ultra-lo-res pic and some sleazy shills 

"Each day stepping up the game"...
Including a brilliant Exit Strategy that spawns a clusterfuck of cognitive dissonance.

Some advice: learn to trade obvious scams like this one and make money, never hodl just scalp 

[Hunterwolfie]

The arrogance of Max Wolter is just breathtaking.

This guy must have Asperger's or something.

I've never seen someone so inept and devoid of social skills.

Hey you fucking twat, you need the community's money for your ICO....that very community you're so quick to make fun of.........

[gsxrboy]

[Viper1]

Max Wolter
Mindaugas Kurlavicius
Sergii Shumakov
Julien Bordellier
Alexander Bremin
Gaury Antoine
Ivan Mendoza

Any of these people will step forward, and disassociate themselves from the VLT scam, now is the time.

Keep in mind that they already lied once to everyone about who they were. So that list of names becomes meaningless...

When you asked me in PM what I thought about the project, I had told you I had some "concerns". Well lets review the original "Jason" who I suspect has left the project and the account is now being used by someone else meaning they've still been misleading people. I'm actually surprised that no one has noted that awishformore is a brand new account for this coin only and yet he talks like he's been around crypto for awhile.

I have read the Bitcoin white paper and understand the basics and the code pretty well.

regarding a blockchain programming in C# book

Have been examining blockchain development seriously, I'll for sure check this book out!

Regarding validating bitcoin addresses

Compressed and easy to understand information like that is rare!

Would have taken me days to figure out how the conversion would work step by step like that.

That last one. Holy crap. Days? Seriously? Having gone through that process myself a few years back, his comment is staggering.

So this is someone who's going to develop some new revolutionary coin?

[kingcrimson]

I have read the Bitcoin white paper and understand the basics and the code pretty well.

regarding a blockchain programming in C# book

Have been examining blockchain development seriously, I'll for sure check this book out!

Regarding validating bitcoin addresses

Compressed and easy to understand information like that is rare!

Would have taken me days to figure out how the conversion would work step by step like that.

That last one. Holy crap. Days? Seriously? Having gone through that process myself a few years back, his comment is staggering.

So this is someone who's going to develop some new revolutionary coin?

That is my sense as well, Max Wolter came in February claiming himself as the webmaster, then he suddenly is the leader of the project. I believe Jason/John Connor left VLT, and then Alex and his buddy Max took it over for a quick exit scam.

[CryptoGoon]

I'ma let yall finish, but Max is one of the best blockchain devs of all time

[kaene]

You fudders do realize that it would benefit everyone to have a successful ico? I am baffled why do you guys want to sabotage it by throwing scam accusations?

It's not FUD, it's economics, there is no way they can collect any acceptable amount of money after what they did, their only option would be if the swap is for something near the 50%. How will any potential investor decide to put money after reading in this thread and learning about how they changed the rules after some people invested money already into their promises? If projects with awesome team and path sometimes don't get more than 1M, how can they expect something between 5 and 20? It's doomed to fail unless they start thinking of something near 50%

[kaene]

The least that can be said about me is that I do not understand the community and that I completely underestimated the intensity of the reaction. So, for my part, I believe I should get back to doing what I know: delivering value for the project.

I want to leave you with one final thought.

Imagine we deliver a working prototype with a test network that has a lightning network that is technically clearly superior to the Bitcoin LN.
Imagine we present a road map that shows that we know exactly where we are going and how to get there.
Imagine we publish a white paper that illustrates that we know what we are doing and that the approach is groundbreaking.
Imagine we sign partnerships with some of the world leading blockchain researchers.

How would that affect your perception of the situation? Of our decision?

This is our vision for the project.

I hope we will regain at least some of the trust that some of the investors have lost due to a lack of communication on our side.

Thank you everyone for all the time you put in to share your frustrations, and a special thank you for all the kind and supportive private messages.

Imagine you didn't lie and 1:1 didn't become a 20:1 ...

[YourMother]

The least that can be said about me is that I do not understand the community and that I completely underestimated the intensity of the reaction. So, for my part, I believe I should get back to doing what I know: delivering value for the project.

I want to leave you with one final thought.

Imagine we deliver a working prototype with a test network that has a lightning network that is technically clearly superior to the Bitcoin LN.
Imagine we present a road map that shows that we know exactly where we are going and how to get there.
Imagine we publish a white paper that illustrates that we know what we are doing and that the approach is groundbreaking.
Imagine we sign partnerships with some of the world leading blockchain researchers.

How would that affect your perception of the situation? Of our decision?

This is our vision for the project.

I hope we will regain at least some of the trust that some of the investors have lost due to a lack of communication on our side.

Thank you everyone for all the time you put in to share your frustrations, and a special thank you for all the kind and supportive private messages.

Well, this is the problem, you thieving piece of shit! You are trying to exchange imagination for millions of $. You and your fellow team members know very well that it's all about technical whitepapers and execution and not about ideas and imagination, which are both worth less than 1 pound of horse manure.