My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[philipma1957]

Merry Christmas to all!

Or happy holidays to all!

My Christmas presents to me from me

1 biostar z170 mobo
2 sticks of crucial ram
3 more psus
4 Msi rx 470s
5 more fans
6 Dvi to Dvi cables
7 USB cables
8 port dvi/USB/kvm switch
9 cat 7 cables
10 pounds of steaks
11 sized sneakers
12 canolies

All seriousness I did get an 8 port  switch. Cost me good money but I have an idea for using it beyond mining.
And I am going to have six four card biostar Msi rigs.

[ps_jb]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

My gift to myself is 14TH of S9 on Hashnest

[Tmdz]

Merry Christmas to all!

Or happy holidays to all!

My Christmas presents to me from me

1 biostar z170 mobo
2 sticks of crucial ram
3 more psus
4 Msi rx 470s
5 more fans
6 Dvi to Dvi cables
7 USB cables
8 port dvi/USB/kvm switch
9 cat 7 cables
10 pounds of steaks
11 sized sneakers
12 canolies

All seriousness I did get an 8 port  switch. Cost me good money but I have an idea for using it beyond mining.
And I am going to have six four card biostar Msi rigs.

I picked up a rx 480 4gb from newegg for $175 wooo

hoping for an after x-mas sale as well 

[citronick]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year holidays to everyone!

Thanks to Phil for creating this thread too and always learning from all of you guys -- appreciate it very much.

My Christmas presents awaits.....

1. 700THs++ = 120 x Avalon 7s going online phase by phase today ... looking forward to get pass 2PH/s for the group.
2. Just ordered the 5 x EVGA Z170 mobos, cpu, ram, m2 etc. from Newegg.
3. Negotiating 20 x Sapphire 470s from a local supplier ... hopefully can close by today.
4. And most of all .... all the kids are around this Christmas so going for nice lunch with the family today!

[Hotmetal]

8 port dvi/USB/kvm switch

All seriousness I did get an 8 port  switch. Cost me good money but I have an idea for using it beyond mining.
And I am going to have six four card biostar Msi rigs.

Please can you post a link to it, you've gotten me curious!

[Hotmetal]

3. Negotiating 20 x Sapphire 470s from a local supplier ... hopefully can close by today.

Aren't you able to get able to get 480's at the same price at the 470's?

With the new AMD GPU's getting released in 2 weeks, isn't it worth waiting to see what price it comes in at?
(even if too expensive, it should drop the price of the already existing 470/480's)

[philipma1957]

8 port dvi/USB/kvm switch

All seriousness I did get an 8 port  switch. Cost me good money but I have an idea for using it beyond mining.
And I am going to have six four card biostar Msi rigs.

Please can you post a link to it, you've gotten me curious!

it is costly

http://www.provantage.com/startech-sv831dviu~7STR9244.htm

[ps_jb]

it is costly

http://www.provantage.com/startech-sv831dviu~7STR9244.htm

Phil - what is the usage for this switch?

Why do not use TeamViewer?

[citronick]

3. Negotiating 20 x Sapphire 470s from a local supplier ... hopefully can close by today.

Aren't you able to get able to get 480's at the same price at the 470's?

With the new AMD GPU's getting released in 2 weeks, isn't it worth waiting to see what price it comes in at?
(even if too expensive, it should drop the price of the already existing 470/480's)

Yes, the 490. But Sapphire have not confirmed the dates for it.

[citronick]

it is costly

http://www.provantage.com/startech-sv831dviu~7STR9244.htm

Phil - what is the usage for this switch?

Why do not use TeamViewer?

I use a combination of Teamviewer and TightVNC to manage all rigs.

The KVM is also a feasible solution however the rigs needs to be fairly close to each other so that cables can reach all rights to where you want the master workstation to be. Anything further may need custom cables.

KVMs are relatively cheap, depending on how many ports, but will be expensive if you need DVI, which is quite unique vs VGA, HDMI... IMHO. Most LCD monitors nowadays are HDMI standard and all newer GPUs may not have DVI ports anymore especially if you want the slim design like the MSI 470 to fit into the Z170 mobos.

Phil - please take note.... the next generation GPU like RX/Polaris based may not have DVI ports anymore - unless you use an older card as the GPU1-PCI-16X designate to connect the KVM switch.

[QuintLeo]

it is costly

http://www.provantage.com/startech-sv831dviu~7STR9244.htm

Phil - what is the usage for this switch?

Why do not use TeamViewer?

I use a combination of Teamviewer and TightVNC to manage all rigs.

The KVM is also a feasible solution however the rigs needs to be fairly close to each other so that cables can reach all rights to where you want the master workstation to be. Anything further may need custom cables.

KVMs are relatively cheap, depending on how many ports, but will be expensive if you need DVI, which is quite unique vs VGA, HDMI... IMHO. Most LCD monitors nowadays are HDMI standard and all newer GPUs may not have DVI ports anymore especially if you want the slim design like the MSI 470 to fit into the Z170 mobos.

Phil - please take note.... the next generation GPU like RX/Polaris based may not have DVI ports anymore - unless you use an older card as the GPU1-PCI-16X designate to connect the KVM switch.

 DVI fits on slim cards - my Sapphire HD 7750 "true single slot low profile" card has a DVI-I + HDMI + a bracket-mounted DB15 (VGA).
 The connector is the same width as a VGA connector or VERY VERY close, though a lot longer.

 With that said, I've priced out DVI KVM switches - once. WAY crazy expensive stuff, I recommend not even looking at them unless you can find one REAL cheap as a used item somewhere.
 http://www.provantage.com/startech-sv831dusbuk~7STR925J.htm for a comparable VGA-port version of the same switch from the same site - less than half the price.
 It would be cheaper to buy that VGA version of the KVM and 8x HDMI->VGA adapters from WalMart than the DVI version of the KVM.
 I couldn't find a native HDMI version from that site.

 Odd part is that for a monitor for a mining rig, a current *TV* is often less expensive for the same resolution (if you insist on using new stuff), and I've yet to see ANY LCD/LED TV that didn't have HDMI suppport (VGA support is less common on them).

[citronick]

Did the "most profitable coin" just switched to ETH??? 

One of my test machine, I installed Nicehash Windows miner.

It has quite an aggressive "auto-switching" algorithm for renting/selling hash.

And I usually take this signal from Nicehash and compare with whattomine.com and coinwarz.com to determine if I need to switch my rigs to mine the best coin.

[philipma1957]

To answer why I spent a shit ton of cash on dvi.

I have found that going the route of  dvi switching  bypasses the dreaded black screen and the eth 4mhs bug. Better then vga or hdmi
I also have some

display to dvi cables
hdmi to dvi cables
dvi to dvi cables


It really costs far to much to justify as a practical solution.
Team viewer is more cost effective

But I am a gear freak.

Right now I have 12 rigs in house.

I plan for the garage to have 8 rigs not 10

They will be 7 biostar 4 card and 1 evga 4 card  the eight port switcher will be ideal.

3 rigs will go to the solar array

1 rig will be in my den   a 1 card rig as I had the pc already


Hey zec dropped just a bit  so stay on it and wait for the rx 490 pump.  hold coins if you can.

[xleejohnx]

I got server upgrades from the wifey!!

asus z97 extreme6 mobo
I7-4960k 4.5ghz CPU
3 more 3tb hdd
Computer case with 10 external slot bay
3 3x5.25 to 4x3.5 hot swap cages
Single 1x5.25 hot swap
2 sas controllers
2 250gb Samsung 800 series ssd for cache
Label maker for cables hdds and miner labeling

I use unraid for a software it's awesome
if anyone wants an awesome home server use unraid

I know it's off topic

Anywho I hope everyone has a safe wonderful day
Happy holidays/ merry Christmas



 

[Hotmetal]

Did the "most profitable coin" just switched to ETH??? 

One of my test machine, I installed Nicehash Windows miner.

It has quite an aggressive "auto-switching" algorithm for renting/selling hash.

And I usually take this signal from Nicehash and compare with whattomine.com and coinwarz.com to determine if I need to switch my rigs to mine the best coin.

I would avoid using nicehash if i were you. Not only do you have to factor in a 3% fee (not included on those sites), but their payment policy has changed and payouts take quite a bit longer.
If you're using RX cards, you probably want to (at this point) stick to XMR. (i factor in the 3% fee when checking profitability)

[ps_jb]

Did the "most profitable coin" just switched to ETH??? 

One of my test machine, I installed Nicehash Windows miner.

It has quite an aggressive "auto-switching" algorithm for renting/selling hash.

And I usually take this signal from Nicehash and compare with whattomine.com and coinwarz.com to determine if I need to switch my rigs to mine the best coin.

Yes - I switched yesterday manually from ETC. On ETC I could catch all spike from the beginning

[GabryRox]

Did the "most profitable coin" just switched to ETH???  

One of my test machine, I installed Nicehash Windows miner.

It has quite an aggressive "auto-switching" algorithm for renting/selling hash.

And I usually take this signal from Nicehash and compare with whattomine.com and coinwarz.com to determine if I need to switch my rigs to mine the best coin.

Yup, based on my sporadic checks of both sites, ETH has been atop the profitability list most of the time over the past week or so. ZEC was at top a few times when it was around $55 but not any more. Also, a few times when I checked on WTM, they showed ETH way down but it was incorrect because the difficulty they showed for it was WAY higher (like by around 10% or so) than it was everywhere else, so there seems to be a problem there.  Also, I noticed that the USD values for all 3 of these coins are usually quite a bit lower on the top bar at WTM then they are on most exchanges, so that also affects what that site shows.

With my 4-GPU modded rig I get the following per coin:
ETH: 110 Mh/s @ 620W
XMR: 2500 H/s @ 550W
ZEC: 800 H/s @ 570W

Profitability on CW:  ETH = $2.71 / XMR = $2.27  / ZEC = $1.94
Profitability on WTM:  ETH = $2.61 / XMR = $2.41  / ZEC = $2.43

Difficulty for ZEC & XMR matches on the 2 sites but once again, the ETH diff is off... this time though WTM has their about 3T lower than CW.

Bottom line is that with the drop of ETH to close to $7, you wouldn't think it would be the top coin to mine right now, but if you look at how much its difficulty has dropped recently, it makes more sense. ZEC diff has spike up a lot (predictably after the price push I suppose) and XMR diff is also going up. 

[bittawm]

To answer why I spent a shit ton of cash on dvi.

I have found that going the route of  dvi switching  bypasses the dreaded black screen and the eth 4mhs bug. Better then vga or hdmi
I also have some

display to dvi cables
hdmi to dvi cables
dvi to dvi cables


It really costs far to much to justify as a practical solution.
Team viewer is more cost effective

But I am a gear freak.

Right now I have 12 rigs in house.

I plan for the garage to have 8 rigs not 10

They will be 7 biostar 4 card and 1 evga 4 card  the eight port switcher will be ideal.

3 rigs will go to the solar array

1 rig will be in my den   a 1 card rig as I had the pc already


Hey zec dropped just a bit  so stay on it and wait for the rx 490 pump.  hold coins if you can.

I am constantly having black screen and 4mhs bug, i got 10 saphire cards on multiple rigs (also have a few other cards too)

Is there a cost effective solution?

my monitor takes vga and hdmi

Cheers all

merry xmas I hope next year kicks ass

[philipma1957]

To answer why I spent a shit ton of cash on dvi.

I have found that going the route of  dvi switching  bypasses the dreaded black screen and the eth 4mhs bug. Better then vga or hdmi
I also have some

display to dvi cables
hdmi to dvi cables
dvi to dvi cables


It really costs far to much to justify as a practical solution.
Team viewer is more cost effective

But I am a gear freak.

Right now I have 12 rigs in house.

I plan for the garage to have 8 rigs not 10

They will be 7 biostar 4 card and 1 evga 4 card  the eight port switcher will be ideal.

3 rigs will go to the solar array

1 rig will be in my den   a 1 card rig as I had the pc already


Hey zec dropped just a bit  so stay on it and wait for the rx 490 pump.  hold coins if you can.

I am constantly having black screen and 4mhs bug, i got 10 saphire cards on multiple rigs (also have a few other cards too)

Is there a cost effective solution?

my monitor takes vga and hdmi

Cheers all

merry xmas I hope next year kicks ass

try a display to hdmi cable


https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-Anbear-Enabled-Desktops-Displays/dp/B01EY67S6O/ref=sr_1_1?


move it from one sapphire to the next  see if the 4mh drops off.

use 16.11.3  amd drive.

[citronick]

Did the "most profitable coin" just switched to ETH???  

One of my test machine, I installed Nicehash Windows miner.

It has quite an aggressive "auto-switching" algorithm for renting/selling hash.

And I usually take this signal from Nicehash and compare with whattomine.com and coinwarz.com to determine if I need to switch my rigs to mine the best coin.

I would avoid using nicehash if i were you. Not only do you have to factor in a 3% fee (not included on those sites), but their payment policy has changed and payouts take quite a bit longer.
If you're using RX cards, you probably want to (at this point) stick to XMR. (i factor in the 3% fee when checking profitability)

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thats a very nice graphs you have there -- is that generated from a website?

With no solid wallets for XMR and ZEC, I have to use Poloniex address and I see that over time, the commission charge to them and also the baby-sitting efforts to sell the coins at high -- are taking too much money and time from me.

I reckon, factoring all of these consolidating to NH and get paid in BTC upfront works out to be same-same. The farm on 100% NH (selling hash for BTC instead of mining them directly for native coins) generates around USD$270-320 220-270 per day @ 33 rigs.

If I have indeed lost up to 3% of these revenue for using NH, I think its a small price to pay because, I get to do away with selling at exchanges and get BTC upfront, pass the "selling" risk to NH, avoid Shapeshift and risk paying more commission and catch the BTC wave directly. I use NH only for ZEC and XMR. ETH is direct into my Coinbase wallet.

If you are collecting coins, then NH is not a good solution.