My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[arielbit]

Phil

My PDU says I'm pulling 2 amps on a 220/240 line

does that mean I'm doing 480 watts on that rig if I plug it into a 120 line and use the kill o meter is says I'm doing 562 watts or lower.

I wish there was a kill o mstter in the US you could buy for 240 lines like the one you can buy and use on 120 lines in the US .
I saw there is one in the UK or over seas that works on 220/240 lines but i can't buy, they won't sell it to me because i live in the US.

I have plans to hock up a full house Kill o meter next year, one of the 300 dollar ones,
I don't like how the power company's reports  don't give enough detail for there Smart meter reports online.

just use a clamp meter to measure amps, some models can also measure volts by having probes..

Power = amps x volts

[philipma1957]

Phil

My PDU says I'm pulling 2 amps on a 220/240 line

does that mean I'm doing 480 watts on that rig if I plug it into a 120 line and use the kill o meter is says I'm doing 562 watts or lower.

I wish there was a kill o mstter in the US you could buy for 240 lines like the one you can buy and use on 120 lines in the US .
I saw there is one in the UK or over seas that works on 220/240 lines but i can't buy, they won't sell it to me because i live in the US.

I have plans to hock up a full house Kill o meter next year, one of the 300 dollar ones,
I don't like how the power company's reports  don't give enough detail for there Smart meter reports online.

My pdu does 2 digits.  So from 0.0 to 9.9. Is say 24 watts + or minus.

But at 10 to 24  amps it is 240 watts + or minus. Since the .1 drops off.

Say 8.2 then 8.3.  But at 10 it goes 10  11 12 13

I would love for the meter on my pdu to read 3 digits.

[toptek]

THanks you two

I looked up clamp meters, i don't have one and ordered a cheap one for 29 $

My PDU only shows two digests and if I go by what your saying that rig is about right or around 500 watts and does use less power on a 220 .

I gonna keep it plugged in that line and save some power, i think.


cya top .

[Kaller]

Just got back from thanksgiving party and upgrade to claymore 8 seems like more hash and still pretty low power happy.

What is the efficiency of your RX rigs?

I can get about 0.7 J/H for my 6XR9 390 rigs. They are very undervoltged.

I have 3500h

 I use 8.2amps  x 240volts = 1968 watts

and I have a new rig using 200 watts at 120 volt power that is yet to be moved to the mining area

1968 + 200 + 2168

2168/3500 = 0.619 watts an h


if you do 0.700  watts an h with your 390 rigs  you are doing really well

My 6 X R9 Nano can do 1676H/s at 1000W (under voltaged). That is about 5.97J/H.

So the RX series is very efficient.

[arielbit]

THanks you two

I looked up clamp meters, i don't have one and ordered a cheap one for 29 $

My PDU only shows two digests and if I go by what your saying that rig is about right or around 500 watts and does use less power on a 220 .

I gonna keep it plugged in that line and save some power, i think.


cya top .

make sure you measure the voltage too to be accurate (don't assume 220 is constant), voltage varies depending on the load from your power distribution transformer etc.

example:
2.75A x 220V = 605 watts
2.75A x 215V = 591.25 watts

there is 13.75 watts difference, when power distribution is loaded sometimes voltage drops a few numbers, so measuring volts gives you a bit of accuracy.

anyway, when voltage drops the current tends to increase so the total wattage (power consumption) stays the same, in real world scenario if..

2.75A x 220V = 605 watts

and when voltage drops, this will happen. this will be the reading

2.8139A x 215V = 605 watts

[philipma1957]

THanks you two

I looked up clamp meters, i don't have one and ordered a cheap one for 29 $

My PDU only shows two digests and if I go by what your saying that rig is about right or around 500 watts and does use less power on a 220 .

I gonna keep it plugged in that line and save some power, i think.


cya top .

make sure you measure the voltage too to be accurate (don't assume 220 is constant), voltage varies depending on the load from your power distribution transformer etc.

example:
2.75A x 220V = 605 watts
2.75A x 215V = 591.25 watts

there is 13.75 watts difference, when power distribution is loaded sometimes voltage drops a few numbers, so measuring volts gives you a bit of accuracy.

anyway, when voltage drops the current tends to increase so the total wattage (power consumption) stays the same, in real world scenario if..

2.75A x 220V = 605 watts

and when voltage drops, this will happen. this will be the reading

2.8139A x 215V = 605 watts

Yeah  truth to this.  Also  I have found if I load the circuit near 24amps  which is my safe max  my volts start to drop.

I have a hot 220 and a hot 110 in my home.

I run 242 and 121  on lite loads  most of the year.

In the summer there is some sag  maybe  239 and 119.

Of course if I load the house up with miners I do get sag of 1 or 2 volts.

Oh I will be getting this usb riser as a free test demo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559751.msg17002557#msg17002557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272456808280?


His pcie cables are good so I will test these.

[philipma1957]

Planning a new build.

Newegg

Item#: N82E16817256161  Silverstone titanium psu ----------119.99 after rebate
Item#: N82E16813138421  Biostar z170gt7       mobo--------- 99.99 after rebate
Item#: N82E16814129324  Visiontek rx 460      gpu ---------- 119.99 each I got 4 for 440.00
Item#: N82E16835220117  Silverstone NT09-115x cooler ----   19.99


eBay item number:361835402191 Intel i5-6400t cpu -------- 125.00  really good price sale ends today
eBay item number:272432411238 Samsung m2 ssd ---------  39.99 really good price sale ends today.


this is a specialty build  It will use under 200 watts and pull 290-320 h

All parts will be in by end of the week.

I have ram so it is free.

I have os windows 7 so it is free.


I know I can get rx 470's  at 160 = 640   and do more then 600h ,

 but I am shooting for a low power quiet build.  More for fun then profit.

I am build 2 more rx 470 rigs  

I will be at 33 gpus.

8   4 card rigs and 1   1 card rig


oh here is an hp.com cyber monday special.  this is a nice pc for a good price for those that want a name brand.


http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-desktop---560-p015hvr-v9b22aa-aba-pc?jumpid=cybermonday112716_desktops_7_V9B22AA%23ABAjumpid=cybermonday112716_desktops_7_V9B22AA%23ABA

[TheYankeesWin!]

Planning a new build.

Newegg

Item#: N82E16817256161  Silverstone titanium psu ----------119.99 after rebate
Item#: N82E16813138421  Biostar z170gt7       mobo--------- 99.99 after rebate
Item#: N82E16814129324  Visiontek rx 460      gpu ---------- 119.99 each I got 4 for 440.00
Item#: N82E16835220117  Silverstone NT09-115x cooler ----   19.99


eBay item number:361835402191 Intel i5-6400t cpu -------- 125.00  really good price sale ends today
eBay item number:272432411238 Samsung m2 ssd ---------  39.99 really good price sale ends today.


this is a specialty build  It will use under 200 watts and pull 290-320 h

All parts will be in by end of the week.

I have ram so it is free.

I have os windows 7 so it is free.


I know I can get rx 470's  at 160 = 640   and do more then 600h ,

 but I am shooting for a low power quiet build.  More for fun then profit.

I am build 2 more rx 470 rigs  

I will be at 33 gpus.

8   4 card rigs and 1   1 card rig


oh here is an hp.com cyber monday special.  this is a nice pc for a good price for those that want a name brand.


http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-desktop---560-p015hvr-v9b22aa-aba-pc?jumpid=cybermonday112716_desktops_7_V9B22AA%23ABAjumpid=cybermonday112716_desktops_7_V9B22AA%23ABA

The power supply may be weak  but the rest looks very good.


Product specifications
Operating system
Windows 10 Home
Processor and graphics
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor; Intel® HD Graphics 530
Memory
8 GB DDR4 memory
Hard drive
128 SSD + 1 TB HDD storage
Graphics
Radeon™ RX 480 Graphics Card by HPI
Optical drive
ODD DVDSM 9.5 Tray
Networking
WLAN I 3168 ac 1x1 and BT 4.2 WW
Audio
DTS Studio Sound™
Keyboard and mouse
HP USB Wired Keyboard with volume control
Power supply
300 W AC power adapter
Memory slots
2 DIMM
Expansion slots
1 PCIe x1; 1 PCIe x16; 2 M.2
External I/O Ports
1 USB 3.0 (Type-C™); 3 USB 3.0; 2 USB 2.0; 1 RJ-45; 1 headphone/microphone combo
Energy efficiency
ENERGY STAR® certified; EPEAT® Silver registered
Dimensions (W X D X H)
14.88 x 6.5 x 14.33 in
Weight
15.77 lb
Warranty
1 year limited hardware warranty (information at www.hp.com/support); 90 day phone support (from date of purchase); Complimentary chat support within warranty period (at www.hp.com/go/contacthp)
Software included
McAfee LiveSafe™
Return & exchange information
For the Holidays, HP.com will gladly accept returns up to January 15th, 2017 for most products.
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I build my own pc's  but that hp.com is a good deal for a person that does not build gear.

[vg54dett]

Do you guys know what happened to ETH price ?
It is quite low ..

[philipma1957]

Do you guys know what happened to ETH price ?
It is quite low ..

Buy and hodl

I think I will get 25 coins today.

[citronick]

Do you guys know what happened to ETH price ?
It is quite low ..

Buy and hodl

I think I will get 25 coins today.

I dumped my DASH stash and bought ETH just awhile ago -- seldom see this price point and the volume is also increasing.

[AriesIV10]

Do you guys know what happened to ETH price ?
It is quite low ..

Buy and hodl

I think I will get 25 coins today.

I dumped my DASH stash and bought ETH just awhile ago -- seldom see this price point and the volume is also increasing.

I am still mining Zcash and xfering it immediately into BTC.  It will be a while for ETH to recover all of the successful Hacker Attacks....who would want to put some information into a system that can be hacked successfully every few weeks.  This has a lot of conflict for me, especially on the longevity.  On the other hand, as a miner, I will mine it if it is more profitable than the other spectrum of coins because I can change to another coin within hours.

[citronick]

Do you guys know what happened to ETH price ?
It is quite low ..

Buy and hodl

I think I will get 25 coins today.

I dumped my DASH stash and bought ETH just awhile ago -- seldom see this price point and the volume is also increasing.

I am still mining Zcash and xfering it immediately into BTC.  It will be a while for ETH to recover all of the successful Hacker Attacks....who would want to put some information into a system that can be hacked successfully every few weeks.  This has a lot of conflict for me, especially on the longevity.  On the other hand, as a miner, I will mine it if it is more profitable than the other spectrum of coins because I can change to another coin within hours.

  I am purely chasing a handsome profit when ETH goes up a few points.

Its been a long time since I have seen ETH at this price level, so like Philip said... buy and hold game will be a nice strategy.

[AriesIV10]

I am going to set one of my rigs to Dwarfpool to see how it works.  Seems to have a more accurate hashrate than Flypool.

Zcash Pool started on 27th Nov.
0% fee first week until end of 4th.Dec

Mine On

[philipma1957]

I am going to set one of my rigs to Dwarfpool to see how it works.  Seems to have a more accurate hashrate than Flypool.

Zcash Pool started on 27th Nov.
0% fee first week until end of 4th.Dec

Mine On

Link?

[AriesIV10]

I am going to set one of my rigs to Dwarfpool to see how it works.  Seems to have a more accurate hashrate than Flypool.

Zcash Pool started on 27th Nov.
0% fee first week until end of 4th.Dec

Mine On

Link?

dwarfpool.com

Here is my bat file:

Zcash Only Dwarfpool

SETX GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
SETX GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
SETX GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
SETX GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
SETX GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool zec-us1.dwarfpool.com:3337 -zwal wallet.worker -zpsw email -i 6

[maxmad_x]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account

the latest v1.7.3.6 have now integrated Claymore Zcash miner v8 !!!

what this means is...... we have Claymore's magic miner running as long as Zacsh is profitable, AND when Zcash is not profitable anymore... NH miner will switch to next profitable algo..... sounds like we have a winner here.

are you testing it ?

The problem with manual switching is it takes too long time to change from Eth to ZEC or ZCL for example , to earn enough to get a confirmed balance , to withdraw it to the exchange , to get it confirmed there , and then to sell.
Generally, price changed and you are too late to enjoy the profitability you expected when you switched.

Maybe with the NH multi algo we avoid this problem , as everything mined is directly paid to the best profitability.

But :
- do NH really pay fairly ? I saw many post with people being not sure to earn what they should.
- do the NH multi algo works well ? stable ? I tried few weeks ago and it get my system crash so I went back to claymore to not loose time.

I really doubt how fair they are in payment. but I guess I can sacrifice 5-10% for convenience of waiting .. converting on exchange etc which usually takes ages and we missing the 5-10% margin anyway. I used NH when ZEC was high and was constantly lowering each second. Now I use ZEC mining proper directly to exchange wallet . wait for ZEC to go up and then dump it. Seems like ZEC has found its temporary sweet spot around 0.07 to 0.10 so I will have 20% max loss while trading possible pump bringin g it to profitable price.

[ps_jb]

I really doubt how fair they are in payment. but I guess I can sacrifice 5-10% for convenience of waiting .. converting on exchange etc which usually takes ages and we missing the 5-10% margin anyway. I used NH when ZEC was high and was constantly lowering each second. Now I use ZEC mining proper directly to exchange wallet . wait for ZEC to go up and then dump it. Seems like ZEC has found its temporary sweet spot around 0.07 to 0.10 so I will have 20% max loss while trading possible pump bringin g it to profitable price.

Based on convenience I found that flypool is the best option for me.

Tried suprnova before - was not satisfied

[citronick]

I am going to set one of my rigs to Dwarfpool to see how it works.  Seems to have a more accurate hashrate than Flypool.

Zcash Pool started on 27th Nov.
0% fee first week until end of 4th.Dec

Mine On

Dwarf is late to the game.

They need to have enough users to get many blocks per day/hour etc.

When I tried it the other day, they got only 2 blocks in 24 hours.... hope that they are getting more now.

Anyways, I decided to stick to Flypool because the payment to Polo is very fast.

I am currently 27 kH/s, spread over 25 rigs / 125 x GPUs, 0.5 ZEC every 5 hours like clock work.

The diff level going higher will mean that 5 hours will probably be 6 or 7 hours soon.... 

[xleejohnx]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account

the latest v1.7.3.6 have now integrated Claymore Zcash miner v8 !!!

what this means is...... we have Claymore's magic miner running as long as Zacsh is profitable, AND when Zcash is not profitable anymore... NH miner will switch to next profitable algo..... sounds like we have a winner here.

are you testing it ?

The problem with manual switching is it takes too long time to change from Eth to ZEC or ZCL for example , to earn enough to get a confirmed balance , to withdraw it to the exchange , to get it confirmed there , and then to sell.
Generally, price changed and you are too late to enjoy the profitability you expected when you switched.

Maybe with the NH multi algo we avoid this problem , as everything mined is directly paid to the best profitability.

But :
- do NH really pay fairly ? I saw many post with people being not sure to earn what they should.
- do the NH multi algo works well ? stable ? I tried few weeks ago and it get my system crash so I went back to claymore to not loose time.

I really doubt how fair they are in payment. but I guess I can sacrifice 5-10% for convenience of waiting .. converting on exchange etc which usually takes ages and we missing the 5-10% margin anyway. I used NH when ZEC was high and was constantly lowering each second. Now I use ZEC mining proper directly to exchange wallet . wait for ZEC to go up and then dump it. Seems like ZEC has found its temporary sweet spot around 0.07 to 0.10 so I will have 20% max loss while trading possible pump bringin g it to profitable price.

I use awesome miner to monitor my rigs and it gives prices of how much I would make a day in mining such coin
And nicehash pays out right now 1$ under what I would be getting if I sent it to an exchange. at an exchange I have a selling fee plus a sending fee so it's kinda tit for tat
I use claymore to mine on nicehash. I do both zec and eth evenly.
Most of the time profit wise it beats out mining at a pool then some days it doesn't
I like the direct payments in btc.