My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[ps_jb]

If pandaminer was to buy a 500 pc code they could be ripped off by anyone that finds the code with a key finder.  Then sells it.

My bet is (based on absolute silence from them) - PM even did not think that using bootlegged version is a problem. It is just a way of how licences are treated in China.

Similar situation was in Russia in 2000's, which was finished basically in one day - when a school teacher was imprisoned for installation in  school ~20 bootlegged versions of Windows. Since then - 99% of all software is legal.

[philipma1957]

yeah  looks like this will all be solved by this thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1736623.new#new

from thread above linux doing 1696

[rawbert]

Hi Phil - I just ordered 1 x Pandaminer - DHL shipping about 3 days, delivery schedule Thurs AM ... nice, maybe I am closer to Hong Kong their port of shipment.

For the Windows 10 matter in your current post in the Panda review thread.... I think you will need the license specifically for the W10 Enterprise version because earlier this year when I was trying to get a 7xGPU build for ETH - chatter from Ethereum board... Windows 10 will max out at 7 GPU (with 3-1 splitter) but 8 GPU possible in Enterprise version with "registry hack". Of course Linux can go more like that dude who did the 30 x GPU monster with PCI extension board. I know Claymore had to do a special update to ETH Dual Miner to see that many cards.

I did more research.
Enterprise windows 10 is needed.

Either

 windows 10 enterprise.  The deluxe version
Windows 10 enterprise LTSB THE Stripped version.

And it looks like pandaminer used Microsofts instructions on how to,alter windows 10 into Windows 10 enterprise LTSB which leaves the version not activated.
To compound it you can't buy a code from Microsoft to activate it.

I posted a better explanation. Of it on the other thread.  Basically the issue is Microsoft wants to sell a 10 to 500 pc code.  To a company.  If pandaminer was to buy a 500 pc code they could be ripped off by anyone that finds the code with a key finder.  Then sells it.

Then all the panda miners that are not sold when sold and fired up will not keep activated since 200 or 300 other pcs are using the code ahead of them.

Once again windows could solve this by selling a one pc key to me or,anyone else

I wouldn't worry about activation at all.. Microsoft doesn't care anymore.. we are free to use win10 without activation, forever, legally as far as I can tell from my research.

[AriesIV10]

Hi Phil - I just ordered 1 x Pandaminer - DHL shipping about 3 days, delivery schedule Thurs AM ... nice, maybe I am closer to Hong Kong their port of shipment.

For the Windows 10 matter in your current post in the Panda review thread.... I think you will need the license specifically for the W10 Enterprise version because earlier this year when I was trying to get a 7xGPU build for ETH - chatter from Ethereum board... Windows 10 will max out at 7 GPU (with 3-1 splitter) but 8 GPU possible in Enterprise version with "registry hack". Of course Linux can go more like that dude who did the 30 x GPU monster with PCI extension board. I know Claymore had to do a special update to ETH Dual Miner to see that many cards.

I did more research.
Enterprise windows 10 is needed.

Either

 windows 10 enterprise.  The deluxe version
Windows 10 enterprise LTSB THE Stripped version.

And it looks like pandaminer used Microsofts instructions on how to,alter windows 10 into Windows 10 enterprise LTSB which leaves the version not activated.
To compound it you can't buy a code from Microsoft to activate it.

I posted a better explanation. Of it on the other thread.  Basically the issue is Microsoft wants to sell a 10 to 500 pc code.  To a company.  If pandaminer was to buy a 500 pc code they could be ripped off by anyone that finds the code with a key finder.  Then sells it.

Then all the panda miners that are not sold when sold and fired up will not keep activated since 200 or 300 other pcs are using the code ahead of them.

Once again windows could solve this by selling a one pc key to me or,anyone else

I wouldn't worry about activation at all.. Microsoft doesn't care anymore.. we are free to use win10 without activation, forever, legally as far as I can tell from my research.

I buy Windows 10 Pro for OEM and have to register each new Rig I build.

[philipma1957]

I don't want the thread to be sidetracked any more by windows 10 activation discussion .

The gear comes with  windows 10 and it was altered to  windows 10 enterprise LTSB

which is allowed by microsoft.  in fact they give the information on their own website.

Windows enterprise is need to do   8 cards.

and windows won't sell you a 1 pc code for a windows 10 you switched to windows enterprise using the info given to you from microsoft

ONCE AGAIN I AM ASKING WINDOWS/MICROSOFT TO SELL ME A 1 PC CODE.

IF THEY DON'T LET ME BUY THE CODE BUT LET ME CHANGE MY WINDOWS 10 FROM PRO TO ENTERPRISE LTSB   THAT IS WINDOWS /

MICROSOFT'S CHOICE.

To further clarify this..  the  code give on microsoft's website only works on a good copy of windows 10. As per the info on microsoft's website.

So as far as I am concerned I am fine with this arrangement.  If Microsoft  has a problem  once again I am willing to pay them  for a 1 pc key.

No more questions on the software.


Some more on the hard ware.

the stock psu uses only 220-240 volts  it pulls 4.5 amps  or 1080 watts doing   1715 h

the evga 1600 g2 uses 110-240 volts it pulls  4.3 amps or 1032 watts doing 1715h

[AriesIV10]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

[ps_jb]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

Indeed - for rx 4x0 cards ETH/ETC are the best coins

[philipma1957]

Having an issue with bittrex.com  I use them to  mine my zec  and hold or sell it.

So I can sign in  but the emails  are not coming to say I signed in  and of course the email to authorize  withdrawals  does not come.

Is anyone else having this issue?

[QuintLeo]

Was on bittrex both yesterday and earlier today no issues (well, no more than the usual pages lag out bad and sometimes don't entirely load at all, and my strong dislike of that Crapcha garbage they added a while back).

 Didn't do a withdrawl though, so not sure on that part.

[vg54dett]

Having an issue with bittrex.com  I use them to  mine my zec  and hold or sell it.

So I can sign in  but the emails  are not coming to say I signed in  and of course the email to authorize  withdrawals  does not come.

Is anyone else having this issue?

I had the same issue, I used another mail provider and it worked. Maybe you can give it a try.

[GabryRox]

Having an issue with bittrex.com  I use them to  mine my zec  and hold or sell it.

So I can sign in  but the emails  are not coming to say I signed in  and of course the email to authorize  withdrawals  does not come.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Logged onto Bittrex both today and yesterday and got notification e-mail both times (with gmail)

[GabryRox]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

Indeed - for rx 4x0 cards ETH/ETC are the best coins

Yeah I noticed that ETH went to the top this morning with its rise in price and the spiking difficulty of XMR.  For my 10 cards on 2 rigs, currently showing $10.20 profit for ETH and down to $8.55 on XMR. I will probably switch over my 6-card rig to ETH as that is a pretty decent % better for ETH. That would give me about a 55/45 ETH/XMR ratio since I have 3 CPUs churning XMR at a combined h/r of a bit more than a modded 470. 

Will be interesting to see what happens when Claymore releases v10 of his XMR GPU miner (should be any day now).  I guess it will really depend on how much more speed this version will provide us with 470/480s. Not expecting a huge increase but a marginal amount, along with better stability, would be nice.  I have had many problems with 9.6 on my rig #2 for some reason, which is yet another reason to move it to ETH, at least until we see what v10 XMR miner can do for 4xx cards.

[philipma1957]

Problem is solved withdrawal is made.

I switch the panda to eth 237mh does pull more power about 1150 at my pdu rather then 1030 for 1715 h for Zec

[Rumant]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

Indeed - for rx 4x0 cards ETH/ETC are the best coins

I have the 7970, so ZEC is the best.

[philipma1957]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

Indeed - for rx 4x0 cards ETH/ETC are the best coins

I have the 7970, so ZEC is the best.

yeah I have a hd7970 for sale and it has 3gb ram  so it is better with zec

It does 185 h at stock   it is power hungry  but makes a good little space heater

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734829.msg17357413#msg17357413

[wedatin]

     Coin Price                    Profit
ZEC = $50.06      =      $4.79/day per Rig
ETH =   $9.73      =      $6.41/day per Rig
XMR = $15.82      =      $5.96/day per Rig
BTC = $1021.67   =      $11.00/day per S9

I am still seeing ETH as the most profitable for Rigs and S9 for BTC.

Indeed - for rx 4x0 cards ETH/ETC are the best coins

I have the 7970, so ZEC is the best.

yeah I have a hd7970 for sale and it has 3gb ram  so it is better with zec

It does 185 h at stock   it is power hungry  but makes a good little space heater

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734829.msg17357413#msg17357413

That one has higher default voltage. So it is warm.

[Defloration]

Referance rx series HOTT !!

[smaxz]

I don't want the thread to be sidetracked any more by windows 10 activation discussion .

The gear comes with  windows 10 and it was altered to  windows 10 enterprise LTSB

which is allowed by microsoft.  in fact they give the information on their own website.

Windows enterprise is need to do   8 cards.

and windows won't sell you a 1 pc code for a windows 10 you switched to windows enterprise using the info given to you from microsoft

ONCE AGAIN I AM ASKING WINDOWS/MICROSOFT TO SELL ME A 1 PC CODE.

IF THEY DON'T LET ME BUY THE CODE BUT LET ME CHANGE MY WINDOWS 10 FROM PRO TO ENTERPRISE LTSB   THAT IS WINDOWS /

MICROSOFT'S CHOICE.

To further clarify this..  the  code give on microsoft's website only works on a good copy of windows 10. As per the info on microsoft's website.

So as far as I am concerned I am fine with this arrangement.  If Microsoft  has a problem  once again I am willing to pay them  for a 1 pc key.

No more questions on the software.


Some more on the hard ware.

the stock psu uses only 220-240 volts  it pulls 4.5 amps  or 1080 watts doing   1715 h

the evga 1600 g2 uses 110-240 volts it pulls  4.3 amps or 1032 watts doing 1715h

have you tried activating as pro and then using instructions to switch over to enterprise?

[philipma1957]

I don't want the thread to be sidetracked any more by windows 10 activation discussion .

The gear comes with  windows 10 and it was altered to  windows 10 enterprise LTSB

which is allowed by microsoft.  in fact they give the information on their own website.

Windows enterprise is need to do   8 cards.

and windows won't sell you a 1 pc code for a windows 10 you switched to windows enterprise using the info given to you from microsoft

ONCE AGAIN I AM ASKING WINDOWS/MICROSOFT TO SELL ME A 1 PC CODE.

IF THEY DON'T LET ME BUY THE CODE BUT LET ME CHANGE MY WINDOWS 10 FROM PRO TO ENTERPRISE LTSB   THAT IS WINDOWS /

MICROSOFT'S CHOICE.

To further clarify this..  the  code give on microsoft's website only works on a good copy of windows 10. As per the info on microsoft's website.

So as far as I am concerned I am fine with this arrangement.  If Microsoft  has a problem  once again I am willing to pay them  for a 1 pc key.

No more questions on the software.


Some more on the hard ware.

the stock psu uses only 220-240 volts  it pulls 4.5 amps  or 1080 watts doing   1715 h

the evga 1600 g2 uses 110-240 volts it pulls  4.3 amps or 1032 watts doing 1715h

have you tried activating as pro and then using instructions to switch over to enterprise?

I won't do this until I clone the oem msata.

 I am not looking to brick  the oem msata.

Once i have a clone I can afford to play with the  cloned copy.

I will almost certainly  go to linux with this item rather then deal with windows.

as a gear related item  I found a link for the exact fan included with this pc.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAES3YE9135


costly and not needed  as I think this one will do with zec and xmr


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132031

I ordered 2 of the bgears from newegg.  I will pull one delta and put in 1 bgear

the second bgear and the pulled delta will be sound tested at 12 volts

if there is a good improvement in noise I will order more of the bgear fans

the case uses 9 fans

 5 push and 4 pull

so buying 9 fans = $120 or so.

not looking to spend that much.

I may get 5 and use them to push .

[AriesIV10]

I don't want the thread to be sidetracked any more by windows 10 activation discussion .

The gear comes with  windows 10 and it was altered to  windows 10 enterprise LTSB

which is allowed by microsoft.  in fact they give the information on their own website.

Windows enterprise is need to do   8 cards.

and windows won't sell you a 1 pc code for a windows 10 you switched to windows enterprise using the info given to you from microsoft

ONCE AGAIN I AM ASKING WINDOWS/MICROSOFT TO SELL ME A 1 PC CODE.

IF THEY DON'T LET ME BUY THE CODE BUT LET ME CHANGE MY WINDOWS 10 FROM PRO TO ENTERPRISE LTSB   THAT IS WINDOWS /

MICROSOFT'S CHOICE.

To further clarify this..  the  code give on microsoft's website only works on a good copy of windows 10. As per the info on microsoft's website.

So as far as I am concerned I am fine with this arrangement.  If Microsoft  has a problem  once again I am willing to pay them  for a 1 pc key.

No more questions on the software.


Some more on the hard ware.

the stock psu uses only 220-240 volts  it pulls 4.5 amps  or 1080 watts doing   1715 h

the evga 1600 g2 uses 110-240 volts it pulls  4.3 amps or 1032 watts doing 1715h

have you tried activating as pro and then using instructions to switch over to enterprise?

I won't do this until I clone the oem msata.

 I am not looking to brick  the oem msata.

Once i have a clone I can afford to play with the  cloned copy.

I will almost certainly  go to linux with this item rather then deal with windows.

as a gear related item  I found a link for the exact fan included with this pc.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAES3YE9135


costly and not needed  as I think this one will do with zec and xmr


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132031

I ordered 2 of the bgears from newegg.  I will pull one delta and put in 1 bgear

the second bgear and the pulled delta will be sound tested at 12 volts

if there is a good improvement in noise I will order more of the bgear fans

the case uses 9 fans

 5 push and 4 pull

so buying 9 fans = $120 or so.

not looking to spend that much.

I may get 5 and use them to push .

I Like the 120mm fans with Speed: 3000RPM, Noise: 45.90dBA, Airflow: 133.60CFM

Scythe DFS123812H-3000 Ultra Kaze 120mm x 38mm Case Fan - 3000RPM on Amazon:     http://a.co/em1tu8t

These kick butt up to 133 cfm and are quiet.  To give you an Idea how much CFM that is:  The S9 has 185cfm fans.
I hook 3 of these up to sys fan 2 on the mobo and control it with the MSI Command Center on my 7 GPU Rig with a nice and cool temp at ~60C.