OPAIR ICO=SCAM!!

[checkmatesir]

there is to many scam in this bitcointalk, and no measure taken to help the victims, actually i really regret knowing this forum

Sorry, I warned everybody early enough. But nobody really listen.

BTW., I plan to offer a escrow+ service. Means it will be much less risk for the investors. A bit due diligence, check for the business plan, identification and if there is some hassle, I can offer arbitration too.

So watch out, if you can see ICOs supported by me with escrow+  ;-)

there is more trusted escrows than you. and they are already handling most of ICOs and trying to make them safe. but scammers will still make their way. Opair was also escrowed by SebastianJu.. but they still scammed by dumping the coin in the exchange.

[iudica]

It is not only the question of being trusted, it is the question, which skills an escrower has and if he has an insurance for escrowing.

For example in the opair ICO have been very weak escrow rules. Wasn't it, that the funds should be paid in parts? And why this didn't happen? This agreement was useless AND harmful, because people thought an investment would be more safe.

If I escrow such a suspicous ICO, I would invest a bit more efforts just because people trust in ME and I don't want, that they need to regret it. This is, what I mean by escrow+.

[wrxbuzz]

there is to many scam in this bitcointalk, and no measure taken to help the victims, actually i really regret knowing this forum

Sorry, I warned everybody early enough. But nobody really listen.

BTW., I plan to offer a escrow+ service. Means it will be much less risk for the investors. A bit due diligence, check for the business plan, identification and if there is some hassle, I can offer arbitration too.

So watch out, if you can see ICOs supported by me with escrow+  ;-)

there is more trusted escrows than you. and they are already handling most of ICOs and trying to make them safe. but scammers will still make their way. Opair was also escrowed by SebastianJu.. but they still scammed by dumping the coin in the exchange.

SebastianJu is very trusted like you said, but he was the escrow of opair, he was responsible for left 85 btc fund, but he still can't prevent wasserman from scamming the coins.

[iudica]

SebastianJu is very trusted like you said, but he was the escrow of opair, he was responsible for left 85 btc fund, but he still can't prevent wasserman from scamming the coins.

You can't prevent this 100%, but why the escrow partner didn't demand a video interview? Why the btc haven't been handed out to wasserman by parts, like it was promised? It would make the scam much more difficult.


There have been so much hints, that it is scam, so it not only a question of trust, it is a question of skills to minimize the risk of being scammed.

[Dank Frank]

SebastianJu is very trusted like you said, but he was the escrow of opair, he was responsible for left 85 btc fund, but he still can't prevent wasserman from scamming the coins.

You can't prevent this 100%, but why the escrow partner didn't demand a video interview? Why the btc haven't been handed out to wasserman by parts, like it was promised? It would make the scam much more difficult.


There have been so much hints, that it is scam, so it not only a question of trust, it is a question of skills to minimize the risk of being scammed.

I agree with you, and it were the investors who insisted on releasing the funds and SJ didn't really wanted to he spoke out his concerns many times, everyone had a chance on a refund but they didn't take it, even worst some of them who wanted to get out wanted to get back in because of a cheap crappy QT wallet. Those people needed a hard lesson obviously. There's nothing we can blame on SJ.

[iudica]

I don't want to blame SJ.

I just want to point out, that if a skilled escrow partner set up tighter rules, the scam would be minimized.

Like video chat. Like check of identity.

Later SJ was catched and he tried to make the best out of it.

[kalpit]

I don't want to blame SJ.

I just want to point out, that if a skilled escrow partner set up tighter rules, the scam would be minimized.

Like video chat. Like check of identity.

Later SJ was catched and he tried to make the best out of it.

Even if Identity would be verified by escrow, what would be the benefit?
Do you expect the escrow to file a case on investor's behalf in law court?

I don't think any escrow would want to go to court to report scam.

[iudica]

- Knowing the real identiy will prevent, that the same person scam twice or more often.

- "Going to court" is up to how good the escrow partner is paid 

- If a scammer is from Europe I can report an offence in approx. 2h. In a way, that the prosecutor can build up his charge on this report.

- But at minium the escrow partner could provide this information to a investor, who sue the scammer, or to the prosecutor itself (if someone else report this offence).

All this will make it seriously more difficult to scam people here.

[checkmatesir]

I don't want to blame SJ.

I just want to point out, that if a skilled escrow partner set up tighter rules, the scam would be minimized.

Like video chat. Like check of identity.

Later SJ was catched and he tried to make the best out of it.

I agree with you. Escrows should do more investigation and confirmation about the project they are going to escrow. but sadly most of escrows just care about their percentage they are getting from that ICO. but when ICO fail than the escrow will be guilty.. so escrow person should be more strict.

[san2ok]

- Knowing the real identiy will prevent, that the same person scam twice or more often.

- "Going to court" is up to how good the escrow partner is paid 

- If a scammer is from Europe I can report an offence in approx. 2h. In a way, that the prosecutor can build up his charge on this report.

- But at minium the escrow partner could provide this information to a investor, who sue the scammer, or to the prosecutor itself (if someone else report this offence).

All this will make it seriously more difficult to scam people here.

how to report an offence?
anyone have a hint on how? and who would handle this

[Jayjay04]

How can I transfer coins to Yobit if my wallet doesn't sync anymore ?

[electronicash]

How can I transfer coins to Yobit if my wallet doesn't sync anymore ?

you have opair in your wallet and you want to send it to yobit and dump them?   
i'm sorry i've just been roaming in the forum for quite awhile just reading but you made my day. you mean you kept that long enough lol  did you know we have dumped all the opair we have even before the ico end?

[Jayjay04]

How can I transfer coins to Yobit if my wallet doesn't sync anymore ?

you have opair in your wallet and you want to send it to yobit and dump them?  
i'm sorry i've just been roaming in the forum for quite awhile just reading but you made my day. you mean you kept that long enough lol  did you know we have dumped all the opair we have even before the ico end?

kept the wallet running on a old computer and totally forgot about it.... and it'S not syncing....
there is still buyers, so why not sell...

[Jayjay04]

So no news here ?!

[electronicash]

So no news here ?!

i can't believe you expect something else from a scammer apart from scamming again. there is no news o this opair for months already because opair is a scam. if that ain't getting into you brain, i don't know what will.

[LupusLepke]

---- WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS? ----

From a news letter seemingly coming from OpenLedger.

XPO Gateway Now Open on OpenLedger DEX
 
Powered by its coin XPO, Opair is a cryptocurrency platform that utilizes proof-of-stake consensus protocol with an average blocktime of 60 seconds. The name “Opair” comes from the combination of words “open” and “fair”, referring to the fact that its code is open-source and that 100% of its tokens are distributed fairly, leaving no coins in the hands of developers.

The platform will feature:

    Colored Coins – colored coins are a method of tying real-life assets, like stocks, bonds and futures, to the Opair blockchain. Colored coins make it possible to transfer these assets onto the blockchain, with superior speed and lower cost, while eliminating third-parties;
    Smart contracts – automated, self-fulfilling contracts on the blockchain;
    Marketplace with decentralized reputations system – the Opair’s market allows users to buy and sell products and services. After purchases buyers can qualify the seller to increase trust and transparency;
    Private chains – companies and organizations can create their own private chains for their business;
    Alias system – instead of long addresses, Opair looks to incorporate shorter aliases;
    Decentralized debit cards – debit card payments with cryptocurrencies don’t require middlemen, thus reducing cost;
    Crowdfunding – start-ups can pitch their ideas and can receive funding for their projects.

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